The mass firings have begun

[CrazyTrader55]

The federal government began laying off thousands of employees Friday as part of a mass reduction in force tied to the government shutdown.

Layoff notices were sent to about 4,200 employees across eight government agencies, the Office of Management and Budget said in court documents in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Federation of Government Employees, the largest federal employee union, which represents 800,000 workers.

Nearly 1,500 Treasury Department employees were laid off, about 1,300 workers at the IRS, Health and Human Services Department was also among the agencies hit reporting layoffs of up to 1,200 employees.

Dozens of employees at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention received termination notices Friday, including about 70 Epidemic Intelligence Service officers, known as “disease detectives,” and staff at the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report publication.

The Department of Homeland Security notified 176 workers they’d be laid off.

Considering there is close to 3 million federal employees, this is a good start. Thanks Chuckie Schumer.

MSN

Seems logical to me. In the private sector, when you have no money coming in, and no ability to borrow - you lay people off. Maybe you bring them back later, maybe you don't. The government needs to be run in the same way.

By the way, does anyone even know the government is missing at this stage?

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'm just wondering why the numbers are so paltry...

There are 2.9 milion federal employess.
Until those numbers reach at least 1 million, it's just window dressing by Trump to appease those who don't understand the scope of just how many people work for the Democrats.

that cuts the military down a lot.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Seems logical to me. In the private sector, when you have no money coming in, and no ability to borrow - you lay people off. Maybe you bring them back later, maybe you don't. The government needs to be run in the same way.

By the way, does anyone even know the government is missing at this stage?

they wont even let the one agency that actually is a business,run like one......what can you do?...

 

[Maxdeath]

They let DOGE run wild. They cut medicaid for how many Americans? Medical care for Americans is already awful because even if you have a good job, who knows what your insurance will choose to cover?

Despite doing these things, they still raised the deficit so they could continue giving tax cuts to the elite rich? Poverty in America is insane compared to countries in Europe, but yet America is much wealthier. And you guys just keep voting to make your situation worse.

If you want the idea of smal government, then why aren't you outraged at what Trump is doing by mobilzing the miltiary against democratic states????

Look I get it you think the country you live in is much better then the U.S. but I have no doubt if we looked at your country there is no doubt we would find many problems you would sweep under the carpet and pretend they are not that bad.
I am not a Trump person but I found the two people from the democrat party offered in the last election to be just too incompetent. I would like small government ( notice small is spelled properly). I would like a balanced budget. I would like democrat run states to be safe instead of being run by people that need mental help.
I would also like to win the lottery, a perfect world, people that do not believe everything some looney so called news personality tells them. But in reality I know that I do not always get what I want.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

Look I get it you think the country you live in is much better then the U.S. but I have no doubt if we looked at your country there is no doubt we would find many problems you would sweep under the carpet and pretend they are not that bad.
I am not a Trump person but I found the two people from the democrat party offered in the last election to be just too incompetent. I would like small government ( notice small is spelled properly). I would like a balanced budget. I would like democrat run states to be safe instead of being run by people that need mental help.
I would also like to win the lottery, a perfect world, people that do not believe everything some looney so called news personality tells them. But in reality I know that I do not always get what I want.

Great post, but a balanced budget? That's Ross Perot, 1992! That ship has sailed, we now have 37 trillion dollars in debt -- and climbing.

 

[Moonglow]

Nope, it's because money doesn't grow on trees.

Then why is the Orange Baboon giving it away to foreign countries?

 

[SweetSue92]

The federal government began laying off thousands of employees Friday as part of a mass reduction in force tied to the government shutdown.

Layoff notices were sent to about 4,200 employees across eight government agencies, the Office of Management and Budget said in court documents in response to a lawsuit filed by the American Federation of Government Employees, the largest federal employee union, which represents 800,000 workers.

Nearly 1,500 Treasury Department employees were laid off, about 1,300 workers at the IRS, Health and Human Services Department was also among the agencies hit reporting layoffs of up to 1,200 employees.

Dozens of employees at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention received termination notices Friday, including about 70 Epidemic Intelligence Service officers, known as “disease detectives,” and staff at the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report publication.

The Department of Homeland Security notified 176 workers they’d be laid off.

Considering there is close to 3 million federal employees, this is a good start. Thanks Chuckie Schumer.

MSN

Wanna hear a good one?

The same CDC that made us stay 6 feet away from everyone and also convinced us to wear cloth over our faces for YEARS.....

That shut our schools for MONTHS and/or YEARS....

Has now decided that school is so critical that children do not need to be sent home for LICE.

That's right: we have kids at school whose parents refuse to pick them up if they are crawling with bugs because it's not "infectious", just a "nuisance"

Gut the danged CDC. I do not care.

 

[Maxdeath]

Great post, but a balanced budget? That's Ross Perot, 1992! That ship has sailed, we now have 37 trillion dollars in debt -- and climbing.

I know as I said I would like it but in reality I am well aware that it will never happen. The problem is the government has become addicted to ever increasing budgets.

 

[SweetSue92]

Making government as efficient as possible should always be a top priority. Always.

At the same time, slashing jobs without thorough analysis for purely partisan reasons is neanderthal. We've already seen government workers having to be hired back because they were needed. This is about rage and revenge, not responsibility and reason.

America is now the world's caveman. Predatory, reactionary, punitive, shallow, loud, ignorant. But this appears to be who we actually are.

Anyone else tired of Mac's insufferable posts about how great he is and the rest of us are cavemen?

Yeah me too

 

[Blaster]

Hooray!

 

[pknopp]

Same as it ever was. Same thing with DOGE. Lay people off and then scrambling to bring them back after realizing they were needed.

Trump axes, then scrambles to rehire, critical CDC workers amid shutdown job cuts

Hundreds of the fired CDC workers may be brought back, but it’s unclear when they’ll return to work

www.the-independent.com

 

[22lcidw]

Making government as efficient as possible should always be a top priority. Always.

At the same time, slashing jobs without thorough analysis for purely partisan reasons is neanderthal. We've already seen government workers having to be hired back because they were needed. This is about rage and revenge, not responsibility and reason.

America is now the world's caveman. Predatory, reactionary, punitive, shallow, loud, ignorant. But this appears to be who we actually are.

It seems that at times changes in government employment occur with little effect on what it provides. You must include bums also. That is those who will do only what they have, take off of work for any reason and using any benefits to do so. That costs a lot.

 

[Dekster]

Making government as efficient as possible should always be a top priority. Always.

At the same time, slashing jobs without thorough analysis for purely partisan reasons is neanderthal. We've already seen government workers having to be hired back because they were needed. This is about rage and revenge, not responsibility and reason.

America is now the world's caveman. Predatory, reactionary, punitive, shallow, loud, ignorant. But this appears to be who we actually are.

"efficient" is a tricky word. It sounds good but it is highly subjective. For instance, when I was a congressional staffer, if someone in one of the district offices wanted post its or a case of paper, we would have to go to the supply store in our HOB, put it on our account, then either ship it to them or deliver it ourselves if someone happened to be going to our district office anytime soon which for us wasn't nearly as far as some members had to deal with. To me, it would have been more efficient for them to be able to buy it at a local store and have it delivered, but to the government, letting everybody do that would lead to a system open to abuse, so to accountants their way was the most efficient. To me their way made it both more expensive in terms of costs and time per item but perhaps it did save the government some fraud if you add up all the post-its and cases of papers consumed by the US government in a day, week, month or year. So which is the "efficient" way to handle that?

 

[Blaster]

 

[Mac1958]

"efficient" is a tricky word. It sounds good but it is highly subjective. For instance, when I was a congressional staffer, if someone in one of the district offices wanted post its or a case of paper, we would have to go to the supply store in our HOB, put it on our account, then either ship it to them or deliver it ourselves if someone happened to be going to our district office anytime soon which for us wasn't nearly as far as some members had to deal with. To me, it would have been more efficient for them to be able to buy it at a local store and have it delivered, but to the government, letting everybody do that would lead to a system open to abuse, so to accountants their way was the most efficient. To me their way made it both more expensive in terms of costs and time per item but perhaps it did save the government some fraud if you add up all the post-its and cases of papers consumed by the US government in a day, week, month or year. So which is the "efficient" way to handle that?

Yeah, I can see that's a no-win situation. There will always be slop in any organization, public or private. What happens more in the public sector is that systems become calcified over time. It sure doesn't seem like the government has aggressive auditing systems.

One thing we obviously CAN'T do it just fire thousands of people while just assuming they're all dead weight. Anyone who advocates for that is thinking half an inch deep. It could well be that thousands of people could go, or more, but that has to happen when they are specifically identified. We have to THINK and PLAN a little.

It's funny to me that the GQP constantly talks about running the country like a business, when they clearly have no idea how successful businesses do things. Businesses THINK and PLAN and AUDIT. But now that we're at caveman level, let's just fuckin' fire everybody to please the base and worry about the ramifications later.

 

[Anathema]

Excellent. Most of those jobs wouldn’t even exist if we still had a Constitutional government.

 

[Dekster]

Yeah, I can see that's a no-win situation. There will always be slop in any organization, public or private. What happens more in the public sector is that systems become calcified over time. It sure doesn't seem like the government has aggressive auditing systems.

One thing we obviously CAN'T do it just fire thousands of people while just assuming they're all dead weight. Anyone who advocates for that is thinking half an inch deep. It could well be that thousands of people could go, or more, but that has to happen when they are specifically identified. We have to THINK and PLAN a little.

It's funny to me that the GQP constantly talks about running the country like a business, when they clearly have no idea how successful businesses do things. Businesses THINK and PLAN and AUDIT. But now that we're at caveman level, let's just fuckin' fire everybody to please the base and worry about the ramifications later.

On the plus side some of these agencies have had to hire back a lot of the people Elon fired because they learned just that. I read somewhere that the Department of Ed rehired about half the people Elon fired just to get the student loan side functioning again at even a snail's pace and I am sure a lot of the one's Trump just RIF'd will we back to get the the K-12 side working again in due course. At the same time, Biden really effed up that Department so the current Administration inherited a mess to begin with. Now there are a lot of people who should have had their loans discharged by now that won't before the end of the year meaning they are going to be facing massive tax liabilities that they legally would have avoided had the Department done what it was supposed to do before December 31, 2025.

As for efficiency, I have never really been opposed to the GOP idea of block grants to states and let them innovate as that in theory would be more efficient. I am just not sure many of these states would be innovative other than in funneling the money to something else, so I am not sure how to improve things.

 

[pknopp]

Excellent. Most of those jobs wouldn’t even exist if we still had a Constitutional government.

Many banks and businesses wouldnt either.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

they would be hiring back the ones who are needed.....seen this a few times....

So about 8 would come back.

 

[pknopp]

So about 8 would come back.

Link already posted. Many already being hired back.

You would think someone would learn along the way wouldnt you?