Zone1 The "Mark of the Beast" and digital I. D?

Is the digital I. D. that is available now, the full fledged "Mark of the Beast?"

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Is a digital I. D. the full fledged "Mark of the Beast?"

I believe that a digital I. D. is a warning of what the full fledged Mark of the Beast will eventually be like, [and i believe so was the C o v i d 1 9 "safe and effective" vaccine].

But this is NOT the final version of it in my opinion so,
those who have already taken a digital I. D., could change their minds and could potentially become major leaders against the full fledged Mark of the Beast.



5 Shocking Things I Learned About the Mark of the Beast​



I believe that near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley gave us a much better explanation for the full fledged "Mark of the Beast."


[Near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley ] :


BOX 12: Technology & Virus

The 11th box was gone & I was into the 12th box. Its visions addressed an important event in the distant future, the decade of the 90's (remember, this was 1975), when many of the great changes would take place. In this box, I watched as a biological engineer from the Middle East found a way to alter DNA & create a biological virus that would be used in the manufacture of computer chips. This discovery allowed for huge strides in science & technology. Japan, China, & other countries of the Pacific Rim experienced boom times as a result of this discovery & became powers of incredible magnitude. Computer chips produced from this process found their way into virtually every form of technology, from cars & airplanes to vacuum cleaners & blenders.

Before the turn of the century, this man was among the richest in the world, so rich that he had a stranglehold on the world economy. Still the world welcomed him, since the computer chips he had designed somehow put the world on an even keel. Gradually, he succumbed to his own power. He began to think of himself as a deity & insisted on greater control of the world. With that extra control, he began to rule the world.

His method of rule was unique. Everyone in the world was mandated by law to have one of his computer chips inserted underneath his or her skin. This chip contained all of an individual's personal information. If a government agency wanted to know something, all it had to do was scan your chip with a special device. By doing so, it could discover everything about you, from where you worked & lived to your medical records & even what kind of illnesses you might get in the future.

There was an even more sinister side to this chip. A person's lifetime could be limited by programming this chip to dissolve & kill him with the viral substance it was made from. Lifetimes were controlled like this to avoid the cost that growing old places on the government. It was also used as a means of eliminating people with chronic illnesses that put a drain on the medical system. People who refused to have chips implanted in their bodies roamed as outcasts. They could not be employed & were denied government services."
(Dannion Brinkley, Saved By The Light, chapter 5)


 
revelation was a grand metaphor Denny

~S~
Yes, the Book of Revelation was a "grand metaphor" but the near death experience of Dannion Brinkley, back in 1975, has me thinking that the Book of Revelation can now, at least partly, be understood?


[Dannion Brinkley]
BOX 7: The Environmental Religion

The 7th box held powerful images of environmental destruction. I could see areas of the world radiating energy, glowing like a radium watch face in the dark. Telepathically I could hear voices speaking of the need to clean up the environment. These voices came out of Russia at first, but then the accents changed & I could tell that they were emanating from South America, probably from Uruguay or Paraguay. I saw the speaker from Russia as he talked with zeal about our need to heal the environment. People rallied around him quickly, & he soon became so powerful that he was elected one of the leaders of the United Nations. I saw this Russian riding on a white horse, & I knew that his rise would come before the year 2000.
[Near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley]
Just scroll down to this heading to read a bunch of these, [from 1975]!

"Prophecies of Dannion Brinkley"​



I do believe that there is much more to this entire topic though. It seems as if some of the Dannion Brinkley predictions were delayed by a decade and other predictions by two decades or more?


 
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Yes, the Book of Revelation was a "grand metaphor" but the near death experience of Dannion Brinkley, back in 1975, has me thinking that the Book of Revelation can now, at least partly, be understood?





I do believe that there is much more to this entire topic though. It seems as if some of the Dannion Brinkley predictions were delayed by a decade and other predictions by two decades or more?


Sorry, but most likely it wasn't a near death experience that is good and fits the God of the Bible. It was most likely Satan. If you want to believe in Jesus Christ, then study true doctrine from prophets and apostles.
 
Sorry, but most likely it wasn't a near death experience that is good and fits the God of the Bible. It was most likely Satan. If you want to believe in Jesus Christ, then study true doctrine from prophets and apostles.

I have met with fourteen Latter day Saint Elders and Sisters and I am ninety nine percent certain that they would disagree with you, or at least caution you to not make statements that deal with topics far above your Security Clearance with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus.

Jude 9
"But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, disputed about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a reviling judgment upon him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.”
...
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Matthew 12:36
I tell you, on the day of judgment men will render account for every careless word they utter;
...
...

You need to read all of this again, and frankly so do I.

Then a blind and dumb demoniac was brought to him, and he healed him, so that the dumb man spoke and saw. 23;And all the people were amazed, and said, “Can this be the Son of David?” 24;But when the Pharisees heard it they said, “It is only by Be-el′zebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.” 25;Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand; 26;and if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then will his kingdom stand? 27;And if I cast out demons by Be-el′zebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28;But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29;Or how can one enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house. 30;He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. 31;Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32;And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
 
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I have met with fourteen Latter day Saint Elders and Sisters and I am ninety nine percent certain that they would disagree with you, or at least caution you to not make statements that deal with topics far above your Security Clearance with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus.

Jude 9
"But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, disputed about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a reviling judgment upon him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.”
...
...

Matthew 12:36
I tell you, on the day of judgment men will render account for every careless word they utter;
...
...

You need to read all of this again, and frankly so do I.
LOL!!! I'm quite certain the elders and sisters would not disagree with me. Your continued reliance on anything but the true apostles and prophets today continue to stunt your growth towards the highest degree in Heaven. Relying on so-called near death experiences is not the work of the Lord.
 
LOL!!! I'm quite certain the elders and sisters would not disagree with me. Your continued reliance on anything but the true apostles and prophets today continue to stunt your growth towards the highest degree in Heaven. Relying on so-called near death experiences is not the work of the Lord.

I believe that the humility that I hear in the voice of near death experiencer Robert Marshall is something that cannot be faked.


MEDICAL MIRACLE: Brain DEAD Man Goes To Heaven & Sees His Father, Pets & Returns!​

 
I believe that the humility that I hear in the voice of near death experiencer Robert Marshall is something that cannot be faked.


MEDICAL MIRACLE: Brain DEAD Man Goes To Heaven & Sees His Father, Pets & Returns!​


Jesus atoned for him and took his pain away. Yet he makes him go back and suffer anyways? And, he's not resurrected. He had his brain restored and whatever else that was needed. Because, the rest of his body hasn't been resurrected. He will die again. And, he will truly be resurrected and never die again. His experience was like Lazarus. Lazarus died again and was or will be resurrected again. He's right. Satan has the power to bind our bodies. It says so in the Bible. He's actually setting himself up as a Savior of Mankind. Distracting good people from those who had real vision and were and continue to be instructed by the Lord to build up the Kingdom of God on the earth and work on the 4 missions that the Lord has set: 1. Proclaim the Gospel 2. Save the people 3. Help redeem the dead 4. Help the poor and needy.

His depiction of Heaven and living in apartments and blah, blah, blah...Sounds more like the Telestial or perhaps Terrestrial kingdoms of Heaven. If he went somewhere, it wasn't the Celestial Kingdom. The Earth will be Celstialized.

I don't know if any of this actually happened. You don't either. But, just his information about language is ridiculous. When we go back to Paradise to await our judgment, we will speak in the language we did before we came to the earth. What he did say is true. We must accept Jesus in faith. More blessed are we.

I will stick with my faith in Christ and my testimony given to me by the Holy Ghost. Joseph Smith was the Prophet of this dispensation of the fullness of Time. The Lord gave us all that we need to prepare for His coming, his Commandments, His Laws, His Doctrines and maybe most important of all, His power in and with His Priesthood. And, how did He say to come through Him to get to the highest degree of heaven? It's being Baptized by water and the spirit by those who have Authority. So, it's not just to believe in Jesus. It's to do the works of faith which must include Baptisms. Without this, there is no Grace. And thus, you cannot be saved. The works of faith are necessary. He doesn't understand works of faith. My advise is to get right with the Godhead. This is all deception.
 
Jesus atoned for him and took his pain away. Yet he makes him go back and suffer anyways? And, he's not resurrected. He had his brain restored and whatever else that was needed. Because, the rest of his body hasn't been resurrected. He will die again. And, he will truly be resurrected and never die again. His experience was like Lazarus. Lazarus died again and was or will be resurrected again. He's right. Satan has the power to bind our bodies. It says so in the Bible. He's actually setting himself up as a Savior of Mankind. Distracting good people from those who had real vision and were and continue to be instructed by the Lord to build up the Kingdom of God on the earth and work on the 4 missions that the Lord has set: 1. Proclaim the Gospel 2. Save the people 3. Help redeem the dead 4. Help the poor and needy.

His depiction of Heaven and living in apartments and blah, blah, blah...Sounds more like the Telestial or perhaps Terrestrial kingdoms of Heaven. If he went somewhere, it wasn't the Celestial Kingdom. The Earth will be Celstialized.

I don't know if any of this actually happened. You don't either. But, just his information about language is ridiculous. When we go back to Paradise to await our judgment, we will speak in the language we did before we came to the earth. What he did say is true. We must accept Jesus in faith. More blessed are we.

I will stick with my faith in Christ and my testimony given to me by the Holy Ghost. Joseph Smith was the Prophet of this dispensation of the fullness of Time. The Lord gave us all that we need to prepare for His coming, his Commandments, His Laws, His Doctrines and maybe most important of all, His power in and with His Priesthood. And, how did He say to come through Him to get to the highest degree of heaven? It's being Baptized by water and the spirit by those who have Authority. So, it's not just to believe in Jesus. It's to do the works of faith which must include Baptisms. Without this, there is no Grace. And thus, you cannot be saved. The works of faith are necessary. He doesn't understand works of faith. My advise is to get right with the Godhead. This is all deception.

Near death experience accounts freed me up from belief in the Soul Sleep Theory. I am so glad that these people are telling us what they saw, heard and experienced.

Robert Marshall does a great job of explaining about a new heaven and new earth.

[Robert Marshall] :

Robert Marshall :
" Before I could gasp at this new revelation, Jesus continued to share why that was true. He told me that He had explained throughout the Old and New Testament that true believers will spend all eternity in Heaven with Him. But it will be the New Heavens and New Earth, which will then be Heaven.
Jesus told me that one day in the future, He would return to the present Earth, and all that have believed and put their faith and trust in Him, and the “dead in Christ” will meet Him in the air. Jesus said when that happens, He will destroy all of His enemies.

Jesus explained that the present earth and all that is in it are under the same curse of sin that affects all mankind. He said He would make everything new, including the Earth and Heavens and all that ever existed.

He would sanctify and redeem the very soil of the Earth of today, to enable our redeemed and sanctified bodies to live upon it.

He said the New City of Jerusalem would go down from the current Heaven and set upon the new Earth, making it the New Heaven and New Earth. He would then reside on the New Earth in the New City of Jerusalem and be amongst and with His children for all of Eternity."

[Robert and Carol Marshall, Forty Four Hours in Heaven, pages fifty and fifty one]

 
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Is a digital I. D. the full fledged "Mark of the Beast?"

I believe that a digital I. D. is a warning of what the full fledged Mark of the Beast will eventually be like, [and i believe so was the C o v i d 1 9 "safe and effective" vaccine].

But this is NOT the final version of it in my opinion so,
those who have already taken a digital I. D., could change their minds and could potentially become major leaders against the full fledged Mark of the Beast.



5 Shocking Things I Learned About the Mark of the Beast​



I believe that near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley gave us a much better explanation for the full fledged "Mark of the Beast."

I am no biblical scholar. Hell, I'm not even religious, but Revelations clearly puts it out there that the mark of the beast is the number 666. Our driver's licenses, passports and other forms of ID and bank and credit cards, do not have three digits reflecting 666. There are some idiots out there harboring tattoos with the number 666, but that's all. Oh yeah, I believe there is something about the beast having sustained a mortal wound to the head but survives. For those idiots that want to claim that Trump sustained a wound to the head, a simple "nick" to the ear, even in ancient times isn't even remotely mortal.
 

Yes, the 666 talents of gold that came in in one year during the time of King Solomon links the "Mark of the Beast" to Prosperity and a booming economy.

The ancient book of Jasher adds details about the situation in Sodom and Gomorrah that could remind us of today in many ways.

21 And the judge said to Eliezer, This man speaketh truth to thee, give him his hire, for this is the custom in our land; and Eliezer heard the words of the judge, and he lifted up a stone and smote the judge, and the stone struck on his forehead, and the blood flowed copiously from the forehead of the judge, and Eliezer said, If this then is the custom in your land give thou unto this man what I should have given him, for this has been thy decision, thou didst decree it.



22 And Eliezer left the man of Sodom with the judge, and he went away.



23 And when the kings of Elam had made war with the kings of Sodom, the kings of Elam captured all the property of Sodom, and they took Lot captive, with his property, and when it was told to Abraham he went and made war with the kings of Elam, and he recovered from their hands all the property of Lot as well as the property of Sodom.



24 At that time the wife of Lot bare him a daughter, and he called her name Paltith, saying, Because God had delivered him and his whole household from the kings of Elam; and Paltith daughter of Lot grew up, and one of the men of Sodom took her for a wife.



25 And a poor man came into the city to seek a maintenance, and he remained in the city some days, and all the people of Sodom caused a proclamation of their custom not to give this man a morsel of bread to eat, until he dropped dead upon the earth, and they did so.



26 And Paltith the daughter of Lot saw this man lying in the streets starved with hunger, and no one would give him any thing to keep him alive, and he was just upon the point of death.



27 And her soul was filled with pity on account of the man, and she fed him secretly with bread for many days, and the soul of this man was revived.



28 For when she went forth to fetch water she would put the bread in the water pitcher, and when she came to the place where the poor man was, she took the bread from the pitcher and gave it him to eat; so she did many days.

29 And all the people of Sodom and Gomorrah wondered how this man could bear starvation for so many days.



30 And they said to each other, This can only be that he eats and drinks, for no man can bear starvation for so many days or live as this man has, without even his countenance changing; and three men concealed themselves in a place where the poor man was stationed, to know who it was that brought him bread to eat.



31 And Paltith daughter of Lot went forth that day to fetch water, and she put bread into her pitcher of water, and she went to draw water by the poor man's place, and she took out the bread from the pitcher and gave it to the poor man and he ate it.



32 And the three men saw what Paltith did to the poor man, and they said to her, It is thou then who hast supported him, and therefore has he not starved, nor changed in appearance nor died like the rest.



33 And the three men went out of the place in which they were concealed, and they seized Paltith and the bread which was in the poor man's hand.



34 And they took Paltith and brought her before their judges, and they said to them, Thus did she do, and it is she who supplied the poor man with bread, therefore did he not die all this time; now therefore declare to us the punishment due to this woman for having transgressed our law.



35 And the people of Sodom and Gomorrah assembled and kindled a fire in the street of the city, and they took the woman and cast her into the fire and she was burned to ashes.



36 And in the city of Admah there was a woman to whom they did the like.



37 For a traveler came into the city of Admah to abide there all night, with the intention of going home in the morning, and he sat opposite the door of the house of the young woman's father, to remain there, as the sun had set when be had reached that place; and the young woman saw him sitting by the door of the house.



38 And he asked her for a drink of water and she said to him, Who art thou? and he said to her, I was this day going on the road, and reached here when the sun set, so I will abide here all night, and in the morning I will arise early and continue my journey.



39 And the young woman went into the house and fetched the man bread and water to eat and drink.



40 And this affair became known to the people of Admah, and they assembled and brought the young woman before the judges, that they should judge her for this act.



41 And the judge said, The judgment of death must pass upon this woman because she transgressed our law, and this therefore is the decision concerning her.



42 And the people of those cities assembled and brought out the young woman, and anointed her with honey from head to foot, as the judge had decreed, and they placed her before a swarm of bees which were then in their hives, and the bees flew upon her and stung her that her whole body was swelled.



43 And the young woman cried out on account of the bees, but no one took notice of her or pitied her, and her cries ascended to heaven.



44 And the Lord was provoked at this and at all the works of the cities of Sodom, for they had abundance of food, and had tranquility amongst them, and still would not sustain the poor and the needy, and in those days their evil doings and sins became great before the Lord.



45 And the Lord sent for two of the angels that had come to Abraham's house, to destroy Sodom and its cities.



46 And the angels rose up from the door of Abraham's tent, after they had eaten and drunk, and they reached Sodom in the evening, and Lot was then sitting in the gate of Sodom, and when he saw them he rose to meet them, and he bowed down to the ground.



47 And he pressed them greatly and brought them into his house, and he gave them victuals which they ate, and they abode all night in his house.



48 And the angels said to Lot, Arise, go forth from this place, thou and all belonging to thee, lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of this city, for the Lord will destroy this place.



49 And the angels laid hold upon the hand of Lot and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hands of his children, and all belonging to him, and they brought him forth and set him without the cities.



50 And they said to Lot, Escape for thy life, and he fled and all belonging to him.



51 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah and upon all these cities brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven.



52 And he overthrew these cities, all the plain and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground; and Ado the wife of Lot looked back to see the destruction of the cities, for her compassion was moved on account of her daughters who remained in Sodom, for they did not go with her.



53 And when she looked back she became a pillar of salt, and it is yet in that place unto this day.



54 And the oxen which stood in that place daily licked up the salt to the extremities of their feet, and in the morning it would spring forth afresh, and they again licked it up unto this day.



55 And Lot and two of his daughters that remained with him fled and escaped to the cave of Adullam, and they remained there for some time.



56 And Abraham rose up early in the morning to see what had been done to the cities of Sodom; and he looked and beheld the smoke of the cities going up like the smoke of a furnace.



57 And Lot and his two daughters remained in the cave, and they made their father drink wine, and they lay with him, for they said there was no man upon earth that could raise up seed from them, for they thought that the whole earth was destroyed.



58 And they both lay with their father, and they conceived and bare sons, and the first born called the name of her son Moab, saying, From my father did I conceive him; he is the father of the Moabites unto this day.



59 And the younger also called her son Benami; he is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.



60 And after this Lot and his two daughters went away from there, and he dwelt on the other side of the Jordan with his two daughters and their sons, and the sons of Lot grew up, and they went and took themselves wives from the land of Canaan, and they begat children and they were fruitful and multiplied.





 
Yes, the 666 talents of gold that came in in one year during the time of King Solomon links the "Mark of the Beast" to Prosperity and a booming economy.

The ancient book of Jasher adds details about the situation in Sodom and Gomorrah that could remind us of today in many ways.
If I remember correctly, the prosperity and booming economy eventually led to a downfall as King Solomon became full of hubris because of his success.

But even if I recall that incorrectly, John seems to be linking back to King Solomon and making him sort of a beast of avarice, as the Antichrist in John's story is supposed to be.

In any event, I had never heard of this story in all the time I had been in church. I only found about it and many other things when I read the Bible in its entirety myself.

Basically, a lot of what is in the Bible isn't taught in church, and a lot of what is taught in church isn't in the Bible.
 
Yes, the Book of Revelation was a "grand metaphor" but the near death experience of Dannion Brinkley, back in 1975, has me thinking that the Book of Revelation can now, at least partly, be understood?
well i've read quite a few NDE's Dennis , all of them have one thing in common in that the afterlife is nothing like mainstream religion describe it as

it's apparent there's a lot more to it than simply heaven and h*ll .....

This is where Revelations, much like Genesis , is an attempt to 'dumb it down' to souls captive to and only understanding the physical realm

~S~
 
well i've read quite a few NDE's Dennis , all of them have one thing in common in that the afterlife is nothing like mainstream religion describe it as

it's apparent there's a lot more to it than simply heaven and h*ll .....

This is where Revelations, much like Genesis , is an attempt to 'dumb it down' to souls captive to and only understanding the physical realm

~S~

You are absolutely correct,
near death experiencers tend to go all over the spectrum for specific religious groups to join with.

Former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava decided to become an Orthodox Jewish Rabbi after his seven minute 2001 brush with death.

Former Atheist and near death experiencer Howard Storm decided to become a Christian Theologian after his brush with death.

Former Atheist and near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley feels more so at home with people in the New Age Movement who tend to lean toward "Eventual Universal Salvation."

I personally have read hundreds of these near death experience accounts and I actually have some difficulty picking a specific church to join, [because I tend to not get along all that well with professional theologians who want to shove me down into some little theological hole that they have dug for their "sheep]."

I do attend any church that my wife wants to go to and I really enjoy fellowshipping with the people who she tends to admire and agree with.
 
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, [because I tend to not get along all that well with professional theologians who want to shove me down into some little theological hole that they have dug for their "sheep]."
oh we could well trade notes there Dennis

thx for that

~S~
 
oh we could well trade notes there Dennis

thx for that

~S~
My all time record so far for being "disfellowshipped or ostracized or kicked out or shunned" from a Christian church is two in just over one month back in 1991!

Both of these churches did me a favour though because this led to me church hopping for over ten years and it was great to find some people who are obviously led by the Holy Spirit in every church that I visited.
 
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