The Marine Corp no more?

[playtime]

Just a weird attitude to have. They're soldiers...we aren't asking them to create cold fusion.

neh ... just love the Marines.

but here's a heads up: never call a Mariane a soldier to their face..

 

[Flash]

they had to make do.

that's called having ingenuity & survivor skills.

We called it begging. It was embarrassing most of the time. They didn't even have the logistics to keep them supplied with C rations or ammo.

 

[Missourian]

neh ... just love the Marines.

but here's a heads up: never call a Mariane a soldier to their face..

I wouldn't. I'm talking about soldiers.

 

[playtime]

We called it begging. It was embarrassing most of the time. They didn't even have the logistics to keep them supplied with C rations or ammo.

vietnam was a cluster fuck all the way around for sure.

 

[Missourian]

neh ... just love the Marines.

Nothing wrong with that.

 

[playtime]

I wouldn't. I'm talking about soldiers.

G Is.

 

[Flash]

The Marines are good trigger pullers just like the Army's combat arms.

However, it takes a lot more than trigger pullers to prevail in a conflict.

The Army has the well trained and effective trigger pullers backed up by world class logistics.

At least they use to. I don't about nowadays since Potatohead has turned the military queer.

 

[Missourian]

The point is that there is no logic behind the mission overlap.

 

[playtime]

The Marines are good trigger pullers just like the Army's combat arms.

However, it takes a lot more than trigger pullers to prevail in a conflict.

The Army has the well trained and effective trigger pullers backed up by world class logistics.

At least they use to. I don't about nowadays since Potatohead has turned the military queer.

ummmm.... gays have been in the military since there was a military.

The Revolutionary War Hero Who Was Openly Gay​

Baron Friedrich von Steuben was known for his bravery and the discipline and grit he brought to the American troops.

BY: ERIN BLAKEMORE
UPDATED: FEBRUARY 6, 2020 | ORIGINAL: JUNE 14, 2018

The Revolutionary War Hero Who Was Openly Gay | HISTORY

 

[Zincwarrior]

Two positives for a Marine style force:
1. Their amphib segments represent significant assets that can be deployed quickly.
2. Their integrated air arm presents an immediate combined arms front.

Both of these are mitigated in several ways of course. Further, both could be done by a different fast reaction force. We just need to have such a fast reaction force available under whatever nomenclature. Just be careful the Air Force doesn't try to steal it...

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Fun Fact, the Army staged more landings in the Pacific in WWII than the Marines.
A small rapid deployment force is needed, however you call it however. Making them immune to crayon wax is just a bonus.

There are a lot more Army personnel than Marines so of course they made more landings.

 

[whitehall]

Who the hell is Bing West? In the late 40s little timid Harry Truman vowed to reduce the Marine Corps to nothing but a guard detachment after all the blood the USMC shed in WW2. However when the U.S. Army was ambushed at the Chosin in Truman's Korean War it was the Marines that saved the day. I think Hillary called the Marines some vile names when the Corps refused to train women Marines with men back in draft dodger Bill's administration. There's always some rhetoric about disbanding the Corps during democrat administrations but the Marine motto remains Semper Fdelis.

 

[Couchpotato]

Yes, and the trouble is that both China and Russia have unstoppable hypersonic missiles that will break an aircraft carrier in half, and take down all the Marines with it.

That is, expecting that the war won't go nuclear too quickly.

Regardless of all Litwin's cheerleading, the proxy war against Russia isn't going all that great?

Most of the Marines in the MEU wouldn’t be on the air craft carrier.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Putin lost the war in the first week when he failed to take Kiev. He cannot win. Now anti-Putin militias are mobilizing in and near Belgorad, Bryansk, and Smolensk.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

In desert shield the Marines were sent to the Iraqi Kuwait border because they deploy with 30 days of ammo and supplies to maintain a combat footing, the army does not have those resources stored and maintained at sea around the world and would have arrived with out much in the way of logistics. What this Commandant did was foolish and stupid.

 

[whitehall]

The USMC is a well established fighting force which has been around for a couple of hundred years. If the government want to trim an expensive and redundant military force they might consider eliminating the SEAL program that has a specific mission that no longer exists.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The Seals have a writ for existence as long as worldwide terrorist organizations threaten the US.

Those organizations include legal and illegal forces for fascism in and outside the US.

 

[whitehall]

The Seals have a writ for existence as long as worldwide terrorist organizations threaten the US.

Those organizations include legal and illegal forces for fascism in and outside the US.

How effective have Seals been lately. If you analyze the training that used to be called UDT that hasn't been changed in fifty years and analyze the mission, you get a redundant force that gets in the way of the organized military. Marcus Luttrell's best seller was about a failed operation and Army Rangers rescued Luttrell.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

How effective have Seals been lately. If you analyze the training that used to be called UDT that hasn't been changed in fifty years and analyze the mission, you get a redundant force that gets in the way of the organized military. Marcus Luttrell's best seller was about a failed operation and Army Rangers rescued Luttrell.

Redundancy is the military way, whitehall. One bad mission fails to offset scores of good ones.

I do agree that we need to revision and repurposes our space, air, naval, and land forces.

 

[Mushroom]

Fun Fact, the Army staged more landings in the Pacific in WWII than the Marines.

But not against hostile beachheads. They tended to follow the Marines, to add numbers or take over for occupation duty after the island had been secured.