The laptop again.

[mamooth]

Funny, I seem to have missed my check for several million dollars from the mayor of Moscow.

You think Moscow pays you directly?

That's not how it works. They pay your masters. Your masters know you work very cheap. They just have to frighten you, and you'll beg them to protect you. By keeping you hysterical, they keep you obedient.

 

[mamooth]

See? You're angry at me. You simply don't care that Hunter raped children, filmed it, and stored it on what has been proven to be his laptop.

You're clearly not well. For the good of society, you should quarantine yourself, and stay secluded in your basement, away from normal people.

You do serve one useful purpose. When people look at you, they can see exactly how Hitler came to power. After all, the old Nazis also faked stories about how Jews/liberals were hurting children, which justified their brownshirt violence against Jews/liberals

 

[Winco]

The incontrovertible FACT of the matter is that, pursuant of the INVESTIGATION, Shokin's PGO raided Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky's mansion in Kiev February of 2016. The very next month, March 2016, Biden got him replaced via an extortion/bribery scheme.

Since 2012, the Ukrainian prosecutor general had been investigating Burisma's owner, oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky, over allegations of money laundering, tax evasion, and corruption.[68] In 2015, Viktor Shokin became the prosecutor general, inheriting the investigation. The Obama administration, other governments, and non-governmental organizations soon became concerned that Shokin was not adequately pursuing corruption in Ukraine, was protecting the political elite, and was regarded as "an obstacle to anti-corruption efforts".[76][77] Among other issues, he was slow-walking the investigation into Zlochevsky and Burisma, to the extent that Obama administration officials were considering launching their own criminal investigation into the company for possible money laundering.[68] Shokin has said he believes he was fired because of his Burisma investigation, where Hunter Biden was allegedly a subject. However, that investigation was dormant at the time Shokin was fired.[73][78] In December 2015, then-vice president Biden visited Kyiv and informed the Ukrainian government that $1 billion in loan guarantees would be withheld unless anti-corruption reforms were implemented, including the removal of Shokin.[79] Ukraine's parliamentvoted to dismiss Shokin in March 2016.[79][80] The loan guarantees were finally approved on June 3, after additional reforms were made.[79]

At the time, corruption in Ukraine was a matter of bipartisan concern in the U.S., with Republican Senators Rob Portman, Mark Kirk, and Ron Johnson co-signing a Senate Ukraine Caucus letter in February 2016 urging then-President Poroshenko to implement reforms, including "to press ahead with urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General's office".[81] Biden was not alone in targeting Shokin for anti-corruption reasons; he was joined by other European and U.S. officials. Former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt and the assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland both said in 2015 that Shokin's office was failing to root out corruption. In March 2016, testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, former ambassador to Ukraine John E. Herbst stated, "By late fall of 2015, the EU and the United States joined the chorus of those seeking Mr. Shokin's removal" and that Joe Biden "spoke publicly about this before and during his December visit to Kyiv."

During the same hearing, Nuland stated, "we have pegged our next $1 billion loan guarantee, first and foremost, to having a rebooting of the reform coalition so that we know who we are working with, but secondarily, to ensuring that the prosecutor general's office gets cleaned up."[82] Meanwhile, protests within Ukraine were calling for Shokin's removal, and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) also threatened to delay $40 billion of aid in light of corruption in Ukraine.[83] Anders Åslund, a resident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, said that "Everyone in the Western community wanted Shokin sacked ... The whole G-7, the IMF, the EBRD [European Bank for Reconstruction and Development], everybody was united that Shokin must go, and the spokesman for this was Joe Biden."[76] The European Union eventually praised Shokin's dismissal due to a "lack of tangible results" of his office's investigations, and also because people in Shokin's office were themselves being investigated.[84]


As of May 16, 2019, when the prosecutor general's office cleared Biden and his son of alleged corruption,[85] there is no evidence that Biden acted to protect his son's involvement with Burisma, although Trump, Giuliani, and their allies have fueled speculation.[71][86][87]Shokin's successor, Yuriy Lutsenko, initially took a hard line against Burisma, but within a year, Lutsenko announced that all legal proceedings and pending criminal allegations against Zlochevsky had been "fully closed".[68] In a related 2014 investigation by the United Kingdom, British authorities froze U.K. bank accounts tied to Zlochevsky; however, the investigation was later closed due to a lack of evidence.[88] Lutsenko said in May 2019 that there was no evidence of wrongdoing by the Bidens, but he was planning to provide information to Attorney General William Barr about Burisma board payments so American authorities could verify whether Hunter Biden had paid U.S. taxes.[85]

 

[Winco]

I provided proof that Shokin was investigating Burisma, you ******* disgusting shitbag liar.

But, you simply didn't.
You typing it is NOT proof.

Shokin was appointed Prosecutor General of Ukraine on 10 February 2015, replacing Vitaly Yarema.[9] He was a controversial appointee due to his perceived role in blocking prosecutions against those accused of shooting demonstrators in the 2014 Ukrainian revolution.[10] As Prosecutor General, he was accused of blocking major cases against allies and influential figures and hindering the fight against corruption in Ukraine.[11]

In early April 2015, Shokin stated that the General Prosecutor Ukraine (GPU) files about criminal orders from former General Prosecutor Viktor Pshonka[a] had disappeared, along with Pshonka's secret casework and secret materials. Shokin stated, "I will tell you more: not only criminal cases, but classified materials have disappeared - secret records, including those related to the orders of Victor Pshonka." (Russian: Виктор Шокин: "Я вам больше скажу: пропали не только уголовные дела, но секретные материалы – секретное делопроизводство. В том числе, то, что касалось распоряжений Виктора Пшонки.").[17][18][19]

Various street protests demanding Shokin's resignation were held.[20][21][22] On 2 November 2015, there was an assassination attempt against him when an unidentified sniper fired three shots into his office, but was foiled by the bulletproof glass window.[23] In response to a query from Ukrainian News Agency in late 2019, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) acknowledged that it is continuing to investigate the attempted assassination of Shokin.[24]

Through 2015 and early 2016, domestic and international pressure (including from the IMF, the EU, and the EBRD) built for Shokin to be removed from office. The Obama administration withheld $1 billion in loan guarantees to pressure the Ukrainian government to remove Shokin from office.[25][26][27]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Shokin#cite_note-30 His defenders nonetheless argued that he played an important role "balancing competing political interests".[29] His Deputy Prosecutor, Vitaly Kasko, announced his resignation on 15 February 2016 denouncing the corruption and lawlessness of the Prosecutor's office.[30] Shokin was also criticized in Ukraine for failing to prosecute snipers who killed demonstrators during the revolution, as well as for failing to investigate corrupt businesses.[31]

On 16 February 2016, Shokin submitted a letter of resignation,[32] although the next day an official of the prosecution office stated, "As far as I know he has taken a paid leave".[33] On 19 February 2016 presidential press secretary Sviatoslav Tsegolko wrote on Twitter that the presidential administration had received an official letter of resignation from Shokin.[34]

On 16 March 2016 an official of the prosecution office stated that Shokin had resumed his work.[9] On the same day, his office carried out a raid against one of Ukraine's leading anti-corruption groups, the Anti-Corruption Action Center (AntAC), claiming that it had misappropriated aid money.[22] AntAC was a frequent critic of the Prosecutor General's Office under Shokin.[35] In one notorious case, two of Shokin's prosecutors were caught with stashes of diamonds, cash and valuables in their homes, likely indicating bribery. Prosecutors from another department of Shokin's office were fired or reassigned when they attempted to bring a prosecution against the so-called "diamond prosecutors".[36]

On 28 March, protesters called for Shokin's firing, after his office was authorized by a Kyiv court to investigate AntAC.[22][37]Shokin was formally dismissed in a parliamentary vote on 29 March 2016.[38] The European Union praised Shokin's dismissal due to a "lack of tangible results" of his office's investigations, and also because people in Shokin's office were themselves being investigated.[11] Following his dismissal Shokin went into retirement.[39]

On 27 February 2020, a court ruling forced investigators to open a probe on Joe Biden's pressure on Poroshenko to fire Shokin.[40] The investigation was closed in November 2020 after the election of Joe Biden as President of the United States.[41]

 

[Muhammed]

Since 2012, the Ukrainian prosecutor general had been investigating Burisma's owner, oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky, over allegations of money laundering, tax evasion, and corruption.[68] In 2015, Viktor Shokin became the prosecutor general, inheriting the investigation. The Obama administration, other governments, and non-governmental organizations soon became concerned that Shokin was not adequately pursuing corruption in Ukraine, was protecting the political elite, and was regarded as "an obstacle to anti-corruption efforts".[76][77] Among other issues, he was slow-walking the investigation into Zlochevsky and Burisma, to the extent that Obama administration officials were considering launching their own criminal investigation into the company for possible money laundering.[68] Shokin has said he believes he was fired because of his Burisma investigation, where Hunter Biden was allegedly a subject. However, that investigation was dormant at the time Shokin was fired.[73][78] In December 2015, then-vice president Biden visited Kyiv and informed the Ukrainian government that $1 billion in loan guarantees would be withheld unless anti-corruption reforms were implemented, including the removal of Shokin.[79] Ukraine's parliamentvoted to dismiss Shokin in March 2016.[79][80] The loan guarantees were finally approved on June 3, after additional reforms were made.[79]

At the time, corruption in Ukraine was a matter of bipartisan concern in the U.S., with Republican Senators Rob Portman, Mark Kirk, and Ron Johnson co-signing a Senate Ukraine Caucus letter in February 2016 urging then-President Poroshenko to implement reforms, including "to press ahead with urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General's office".[81] Biden was not alone in targeting Shokin for anti-corruption reasons; he was joined by other European and U.S. officials. Former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt and the assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland both said in 2015 that Shokin's office was failing to root out corruption. In March 2016, testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, former ambassador to Ukraine John E. Herbst stated, "By late fall of 2015, the EU and the United States joined the chorus of those seeking Mr. Shokin's removal" and that Joe Biden "spoke publicly about this before and during his December visit to Kyiv."

During the same hearing, Nuland stated, "we have pegged our next $1 billion loan guarantee, first and foremost, to having a rebooting of the reform coalition so that we know who we are working with, but secondarily, to ensuring that the prosecutor general's office gets cleaned up."[82] Meanwhile, protests within Ukraine were calling for Shokin's removal, and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) also threatened to delay $40 billion of aid in light of corruption in Ukraine.[83] Anders Åslund, a resident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, said that "Everyone in the Western community wanted Shokin sacked ... The whole G-7, the IMF, the EBRD [European Bank for Reconstruction and Development], everybody was united that Shokin must go, and the spokesman for this was Joe Biden."[76] The European Union eventually praised Shokin's dismissal due to a "lack of tangible results" of his office's investigations, and also because people in Shokin's office were themselves being investigated.[84]


As of May 16, 2019, when the prosecutor general's office cleared Biden and his son of alleged corruption,[85] there is no evidence that Biden acted to protect his son's involvement with Burisma, although Trump, Giuliani, and their allies have fueled speculation.[71][86][87]Shokin's successor, Yuriy Lutsenko, initially took a hard line against Burisma, but within a year, Lutsenko announced that all legal proceedings and pending criminal allegations against Zlochevsky had been "fully closed".[68] In a related 2014 investigation by the United Kingdom, British authorities froze U.K. bank accounts tied to Zlochevsky; however, the investigation was later closed due to a lack of evidence.[88] Lutsenko said in May 2019 that there was no evidence of wrongdoing by the Bidens, but he was planning to provide information to Attorney General William Barr about Burisma board payments so American authorities could verify whether Hunter Biden had paid U.S. taxes.[85]

Nice copy/paste, wikidiot.



The fact remains that I showed incontrovertible proof that you are a ******* liar. The fact is that Shokin raided the Burisma owner's mansion in pursuant of the investigation that your stupid ass falsely claimed didn't exist, lying moron.

BTW, What the wikidiot article fails to mention is that AntAC is a Soros funded rent a mob astroturf and disinformation propaganda outlet that was also under investigation by Prosecutor General Shokin for embezzlement.

Why do you LWNJs base all of your political opinions on the stupid lies that you tell yourselves? Do you really think that's wise?

 

[Winco]

The fact remains that I showed incontrovertible proof that you are a ******* liar. The fact is that Shokin raided the Burisma owner's mansion in pursuant of of the investigation.

It wasn't Shokin.

Just Keep Compounding your LIES.
You do it well.

 

[Muhammed]

It wasn't Shokin.

How did you come to that stupid conclusion, proven liar and moron?

Who was in charge of the PGO in February 2016, lying moron?

 

[Winco]

raided Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky's

You're full of shit.



Nevertheless, on Feb. 2, 2015, the Prosecutor General’s Office seized personal property attributed to Zlochevsky but legally owned by his family, including a mansion, a luxury car and plots of land, according to AntAC. The court order was not published, but journalists eventually exposed what had happened later in 2015.



Now here’s where it gets complicated. On Nov. 10, 2015, the Ukrainian parliament adopted a law amending the procedure for asset seizures, requiring higher standards of proof. The law came into force in December, and Zlochevsky appealed the seizure.
In the meantime, that same month, the PGO tried to send its cases to another prosecutorial entity, the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU), which is funded with U.S. and European aid and received technical support from the FBI. “NABU received tons of files in December 2015, just as their jurisdiction was starting,” said Daria Kaleniuk, the head of AntAC.
(During a December visit to Kyiv, Biden had addressed the Ukrainian parliament and decried the “cancer of corruption” in the country. “The Office of the General Prosecutor desperately needs reform,” he said. During that visit, he also privately urged Poroshenko to fire Shokin.)



“There was a window of a few weeks when Zlochevsky’s lawyers sued to unseize the assets,” Kaleniuk told Birnbaum. “The court unseized the assets in December when the case was in between jurisdictions. The prosecutors didn’t even show up,” because they had no jurisdiction, since the case had been transferred from Shokin’s oversight, in the prosecutor general’s office, to NABU.
So, on Dec. 25, 2015, the seizure was canceled. But the court order was not published until Jan. 27, 2016, and it prompted a public outcry, according to AntAC. So the PGO scrambled to get it reinstated, and the order was published Feb. 4, 2016.
When we asked Graham’s office why he thought there was a raid in February 2016, his office pointed us to a news account of the second court order. The article, however, references property “seized under the previous court ruling.”



In other words, there was largely a technical reinstatement of a court order that already had been in place for at least a year. Matching up the assets listed in the July 2015 report and the February 2016 report, the main difference we see is the inclusion in 2016 of a Rolls-Royce and a trailer, though AntAC reports a luxury car was seized in 2015.
Later in 2016, on Nov. 1, the seizure was canceled after the PGO closed the case, according to AntAC. The case over time had been turned into an investigation of possible tax avoidance, and a Burisma subsidiary paid back taxes.
As for Biden’s phone calls, the Obama administration regularly provided detailed readouts of the calls, so the topics are well-documented.

Feb. 11: Biden spoke to Poroshenko by phone. “The two leaders agreed on the importance of unity among Ukrainian political forces to quickly pass reforms in line with the commitments in its IMF program, including measures focused on rooting out corruption,” the White House said.


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Feb. 18: Another call took place between Biden and Poroshenko, two days after the president had announced he had asked Shokin to resign. “The Vice President also commended President Poroshenko’s decision to replace Prosecutor General Shokin, which paves the way for needed reform of the prosecutorial service,” the White House said in a statement.
Feb. 19: Poroshenko announced he has received Shokin’s resignation letter. That same day, Biden spoke separately to Poroshenko and Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk. “He urged Ukraine’s leadership to unite and rebuild popular trust around a strong governing coalition and reform program, and to accelerate Ukraine’s efforts to fight corruption, strengthen justice and the rule of law, and fulfill its IMF requirements,” the White House said.

“I listened in to all the February calls. Until Nunes floated his wacky conspiracy theory, I’d never heard of the ‘raid’ — and nothing related to Burisma or Zlochevsky came up in any of those calls,” Colin H. Kahl,

 

[daveman]

You're clearly not well. For the good of society, you should quarantine yourself, and stay secluded in your basement, away from normal people.

You do serve one useful purpose. When people look at you, they can see exactly how Hitler came to power. After all, the old Nazis also faked stories about how Jews/liberals were hurting children, which justified their brownshirt violence against Jews/liberals

It's not me being okay with a Biden being a pedophile.

That's you.

 

[Winco]

How did you come to that stupid conclusion, proven liar and moron?

Who was in charge of the PGO in February 2016, lying moron?

I'm more concerned about your Fake claims of a Raid that NEVER happened.
Who told you that......Rudy and trump?
LOLLLOOLLL

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/04/gop-tries-connect-dots-biden-ukraine-comes-up-short/

 

[whitehall]

I thought the laptop was proven fact even though 50 treasonous alleged current and former intelligence officers signed an affidavit that it was Russian disinformation.

 

[Muhammed]

I'm more concerned about your Fake claims of a Raid that NEVER happened.
Who told you that.

Contemporaneous news reports from Ukraine. The high profile raid on the corrupt oligarch's mansion is simply a matter of public record.

Court seizes property of ex-minister Zlochevsky in Ukraine – PGO

The movable and immovable property of former Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources of Ukraine Mykol… - Feb. 04, 2016. By Interfax-Ukraine

www.kyivpost.com

Court seizes property of ex-minister Zlochevsky in Ukraine

The movable and immovable property of former Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources of Ukraine Mykola Zlochevsky in Ukraine has been seized, according to the press service of the Prosecutor General's Office of Ukraine (PGO).

en.interfax.com.ua

Your TDS makes you stupider by the day.

How the **** did you come to the stupid delusional conclusion that the massive raid on Zlochevsky's mansion was fake? WTF!?! Was the moon landing also faked?

You've already been exposed as a lying moron, so why are you digging yourself even deeper into a whole?

 

[Winco]

How the **** did you come to the stupid delusional conclusion that the massive raid on Zlochevsky's mansion was fake?

PGO Office. Not Shokin, ya dumbass.
Nowhere does this link Shokin.

 

[Muhammed]

PGO Office. Not Shokin, ya dumbass.
Nowhere does this link Shokin.

PGO Office? The more you run your mouth the more you show that you're a ******* clueless fool. There is no such thing as "PGO Office". PGO=Prosecutor General's Office, TDS afflicted moron.

Prosecutor General Victor Shokin was the leader of the Prosecutor General's Office (PGO), you ******* idiot. Shokin was personally in charge.

 

[BULLDOG]

Lol. Of course that’s what happened. Now you’re just being disingenuous. Most you always be disingenuous?

You ignorantly don’t know Don and K are in agreement on most things, just like a Trumper. You’re no different.

So how do you explain the direct quote from the letter saying they didn't know if it was Russian disinformation?

 

[BULLDOG]

And then all you Useful Idiots have spent years screeching that the laptop is definitely proven Russian disinformation.

Nope. From the first it was not known if that was the case. It had all the characteristics of Russian disinformation, so caution was called for. That is all the letter said.

 

[Winco]

Prosecutor General Victor Shokin was the leader of the Prosecutor General's Office (PGO), you ******* idiot. Shokin was personally in charge.

In an August 2023 Fox News interview, Shokin said he was fired as prosecutor general "at the insistence of then-Vice President [Biden] because I was investigating Burisma." One month later, Poroshenko was asked on Fox News for his reaction to Shokin's assertion. Poroshenko responded:

First of all, this is a completely crazy person. There is something wrong with him. Second, there is not one single word of truth. And third, I hate the idea to make any comments and to make any intervention in an American election. We have very much enjoyed the bipartisan support, and please, do not use such a person like Shokin to undermine the trust between bipartisan support and Ukraine.

The Fox News interviewer responded, "Okay, so that is not true. He didn't get fired because of Joe Biden." Poroshenko confirmed this, adding Shokin was fired by the Ukrainian parliament "for his own statement" and "he played a very dirty game unfortunately."[59][60]

Shokin was Corrupt as ****.

 

[daveman]

Nope. From the first it was not known if that was the case. It had all the characteristics of Russian disinformation, so caution was called for. That is all the letter said.

I'm not talking about the letter, you moron. I'm talking about what you leftists idiots have been repeating as fact.

 

[Missourian]

This is in politics because whether you believe the laptop proves Biden of nefarious behavior has become an issue divided on political lines. It's not about the election because Biden isn't running for anything.

Even now, it's often claimed the laptop proved Biden got rich by breaking the law while Vice president. However, I find no indication that the laptop actually proves such, and I don't recall anyone actually presenting such proof. I have seen lots of innuendo. I am aware of Biden supposedly talking to his son's coworkers, but no proof of illegal behavior. I talk to my kid's coworkers all the time, but that doesn't prove I am involved with them in a business sense. Would someone show the actual proof that Biden Broke laws as proven by that laptop. Innuendo or coincidence are not proof.

Save it for the trial.

 

[BULLDOG]

I'm not talking about the letter, you moron. I'm talking about what you leftists idiots have been repeating as fact.

Just because fox told you Democrats were saying that doesn't mean it actually happened.