The Heller Decision

[toobfreak]

If you don't know what that is, you should.

I was caruising the TV channels when I passed over the OANN channel airing 'After Hours' with John Hines and he was interviewing Dick Heller. Within seconds, I became glued to the TV. Who is Dick Heller? Father of one of the most important landmark decisions in history. Let me explain:

Dick's story is now burned into my memory. Dick Heller was just a cop, a cop working in DC. He actually was a cop at the Supreme Court. His job was to guard all of the judges, justices, lawyers and dignitaries coming and going. They would give Dick a gun at start of his shift then they collected it back at the end of day. He then rode his bike home about a 30 minute ride unarmed, defenseless, through a rather seedy area of DC, and he wondered why the dichotomy in the law, he was allowed to carry a gun by day to guard important people but not allowed to defend himself?

Then he made friends with a sharpshooter. This guy had been ranked as one of the top 100 best shots in the country. He had even been invited to the White House as a special guest. Maybe he had just moved to DC. He asked Dick about getting his pistol registered to which Dick replied: "You're not even allowed to own it in DC, much less carry it! And the guy broke down in tears crying, unable to understand how in the freest country on the planet, in the capitol of that very country, that even police and guests to the White House, people charged with protecting Supreme Court Justices could not be trusted to carry a gun, a right guaranteed right in our Constitution, the very thing most sacred to and most protected by SCOTUS? What was going on here?

So Dick decided he would begin studying law. Again he ran into a barrier. The people who taught law were initially reluctant to teach him because he wasn't a lawyer, and it was only through his preliminary answers they allowed him in because he gave better answers to entrance questions than many of the actual lawyers!

Educated on law, years later, then he found another barrier: standing. The courts gave him no standing until he had exhausted every other administrative avenue for relief. Even the NRA refused to help him out. Finally, many years later and a million dollars invested, he finally had his case heard by the Supreme Court and they finally ruled deciding after 200 years and 70 years since SCOTUS even took up any 2A issues that yes: the 2nd Amendment really did mean what it said and that guns were permitted by the citizenry of this country purely for self-defense and they did not have to belong to any particular "militia" to own one.

The DC law requiring all guns owned at home be always kept in a non-functioning state (disassembled, locked, and unloaded, was illegal. It essentially gave right to all criminals to carry guns because they didn't care about laws while utterly disarming and make defenseless all people who obeyed laws.

Dick believes that the reason for this is as a power grab because politicians need crime so they can justify electing them to keep fighting crime. And since then, there have been dozens of other lawsuits around the country as city after blue city has been sued kicking and screaming for failure to update their laws accordingly as per the Heller ruling. And it all started with one lone cop.

I can't find the interview on YouTube, maybe it is too new, maybe you have to be a member there, but if you can find it, it was on the program listed above. ITMT, highly suggest you read the following links on both the Heller Decision and also the Heller Foundation that Dick started because of it. I think Dick himself is pushing 90 now, but he is still wry and snappy.

District of Columbia v. Heller - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Gun Dude

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

If you don't know what that is, you should.

I was caruising the TV channels when I passed over the OANN channel airing 'After Hours' with John Hines and he was interviewing Dick Heller. Within seconds, I became glued to the TV. Who is Dick Heller? Father of one of the most important landmark decisions in history. Let me explain:

Dick's story is now burned into my memory. Dick Heller was just a cop, a cop working in DC. He actually was a cop at the Supreme Court. His job was to guard all of the judges, justices, lawyers and dignitaries coming and going. They would give Dick a gun at start of his shift then they collected it back at the end of day. He then rode his bike home about a 30 minute ride unarmed, defenseless, through a rather seedy area of DC, and he wondered why the dichotomy in the law, he was allowed to carry a gun by day to guard important people but not allowed to defend himself?

Then he made friends with a sharpshooter. This guy had been ranked as one of the top 100 best shots in the country. He had even been invited to the White House as a special guest. Maybe he had just moved to DC. He asked Dick about getting his pistol registered to which Dick replied: "You're not even allowed to own it in DC, much less carry it! And the guy broke down in tears crying, unable to understand how in the freest country on the planet, in the capitol of that very country, that even police and guests to the White House, people charged with protecting Supreme Court Justices could not be trusted to carry a gun, a right guaranteed right in our Constitution, the very thing most sacred to and most protected by SCOTUS? What was going on here?

So Dick decided he would begin studying law. Again he ran into a barrier. The people who taught law were initially reluctant to teach him because he wasn't a lawyer, and it was only through his preliminary answers they allowed him in because he gave better answers to entrance questions than many of the actual lawyers!

Educated on law, years later, then he found another barrier: standing. The courts gave him no standing until he had exhausted every other administrative avenue for relief. Even the NRA refused to help him out. Finally, many years later and a million dollars invested, he finally had his case heard by the Supreme Court and they finally ruled deciding after 200 years and 70 years since SCOTUS even took up any 2A issues that yes: the 2nd Amendment really did mean what it said and that guns were permitted by the citizenry of this country purely for self-defense and they did not have to belong to any particular "militia" to own one.

The DC law requiring all guns owned at home be always kept in a non-functioning state (disassembled, locked, and unloaded, was illegal. It essentially gave right to all criminals to carry guns because they didn't care about laws while utterly disarming and make defenseless all people who obeyed laws.

Dick believes that the reason for this is as a power grab because politicians need crime so they can justify electing them to keep fighting crime. And since then, there have been dozens of other lawsuits around the country as city after blue city has been sued kicking and screaming for failure to update their laws accordingly as per the Heller ruling. And it all started with one lone cop.

I can't find the interview on YouTube, maybe it is too new, maybe you have to be a member there, but if you can find it, it was on the program listed above. ITMT, highly suggest you read the following links on both the Heller Decision and also the Heller Foundation that Dick started because of it. I think Dick himself is pushing 90 now, but he is still wry and snappy.

District of Columbia v. Heller - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Gun Dude

I remember when SCOTUS ruled on this, July 2008 if I recall correctly. One for the good guys while during the same month Congress passed the FISA Amendments Act (FAA) of 2008 to modernize U.S. surveillance laws in response to changes in global communications technology (like the rise of internet-based messaging). Section 702 was the key new provision which allowed warrantless surveillance of non-U.S. persons located outside the United States, even if their communications were intercepted from within the U.S.

 

[toobfreak]

I remember when SCOTUS ruled on this, July 2008 if I recall correctly.

And to this day, various cities around the country still try to find a workaround for Heller to still disarm average people by trying to insert trick clauses into local laws affecting some obscure aspect of firearms, like the bullets.

One interesting thing Dick talked about was the dichotomy of laws he found in his research: Like a law in 1825 requiring all people to own or carry a gun with no less than 24 bullets, then a law passed more recently in the same region calling for a ban on guns carrying more than 10 bullets, and he wondered, what happened between these two events to cause this?

What is interesting is that government fears you, the average Joe everyday citizen, more than they do actual career criminals.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

And to this day, various cities around the country still try to find a workaround for Heller to still disarm average people by trying to insert trick clauses into local laws affecting some obscure aspect of firearms, like the bullets.

One interesting thing Dick talked about was the dichotomy of laws he found in his research: Like a law in 1825 requiring all people to own or carry a gun with no less than 24 bullets, then a law passed more recently in the same region calling for a ban on guns carrying more than 10 bullets, and he wondered, what happened between these two events to cause this?

What is interesting is that government fears you, the average Joe everyday citizen, more than they do actual career criminals.

Yeah I couldn't believe it when the Bruen ruling brought the state of California to heel. I didn't think it would EVER be possible to legally carry there, but I was happy to be proven wrong in that instance.

I don't think they allow non-resident permits though unlike the majority of other states.

 

[toobfreak]

Yeah I couldn't believe it when the Bruen ruling brought the state of California to heel. I didn't think it would EVER be possible to legally carry there, but I was happy to be proven wrong in that instance.

I believe that comes down to Constitutional Carry--- your inalienable right to carry a gun without needing your government's permission to do so.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Heller is the beginning of the end of control as the US knew it.

But, as we have seen since then, liberals, leftists, and Democrats have absolutely zero reservations about ignoring SC rulings, passing laws they know violate jurisprudence, simply because the know it will take years for the court to address them.

This is what happens when Democrats know they face no legal or political repercussions for what they do.

 

[toobfreak]

But, as we have seen since then, liberals, leftists, and Democrats have absolutely zero reservations about ignoring SC rulings, passing laws they know violate jurisprudence, simply because the know it will take years for the court to address them.

A major flaw in the Justice system. First the law erects a hundred obstacles to even getting through the court system (look what Trump went through trying to adjudicate what he rightly believed was a crooked and rigged 2020 election!): procedural mazes set up with courts and paperwork, lack of standing (arbitrarily set by the judge), and if you are held up for whatever reason in filing, they summarily rule your case void whether the crime is real or not. All of it designed to increase the need for lawyers, increase the cost, thus assuring more money flow through the hands of more lawyers to keep feeding the system.

Lawyers and judges cannot even agree among themselves the interpretation of convoluted law, usually necessitating the need to go through several iterations of courts until you get the decision you want and the other party's finances are exhausted.

Then even if you succeed in winning your case, all of the libs in blue cities ignore it anyway forcing yet more lawsuits, delays, money and time giving them yet more years to prevaricate and evade the true intent of the law.

And all of this because while there are 10,000 laws on you, there is almost no laws on them and no punishment for failing to follow suit with higher decisions. Our Justice is a joke.

 

[BackAgain]

And lest we forget, the Heller ruling was made applicable to the States via the incorporation doctrine. McDonald v. City of Chicago, 561 U.S. 742 (2010).

 

[cnm]

It's pretty simple. The Chump administration insists a terrorist can expect to be shot when interacting with LE.

Noem and other federal officials called Pretti a "domestic terrorist."​

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"I don't know of any peaceful protesters that shows up with a gun and ammunition rather than a sign," Noem said. "This is a violent riot when you have someone showing up with weapons."​

Did Trump say 'only criminals carry guns?' No, here's what he did say

Amid backlash on the shooting of Alex Pretti, an apparently fabricated post shows Trump saying “only criminals carry guns.” What did he actually say?

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[M14 Shooter]

It's pretty simple. The Chump administration insists a terrorist can expect to be shot when interacting with LE.

Its amazing how easily you lunatic left fuckwits lie.
Its as natural to you as breathing.

 

[toobfreak]

It's pretty simple. The Chump administration insists a terrorist can expect to be shot when interacting with LE.

Exactly. Pull a gun on a cop and you are dead meat. Terrorists have no rights.

LOVE IT! What a sweet photo, best so far. Leftist POS radicalized terrorist in his last seconds out in the street on his knees brawling with police as he holds a pistol in his hand. Luckily they stopped the POS before he shot anyone. Last I heard, legal protesting involves carrying signs on the sidewalk far from harms way not even blocking a doorway.

Noem and other federal officials called Pretti a "domestic terrorist."​

At the very least. Now a DEAD domestic punk terrorist. FAFO.

I don't know of any peaceful protesters that shows up with a gun and ammunition rather than a sign," Noem said. "This is a violent riot when you have someone showing up with weapons.​

I wonder if Kristy has any sisters looking to date?
If you bring a loaded gun to a riot, you are not looking just to protest anyone.

2 rules of Life:

1. Don't put your finger on the trigger of a gun unless you are prepared to fire it.
2. Don't bring a loaded gun to a riot, then go out brawling with armed police unless you want to get shot.

THANK YOU ICE for putting that scumbag out of his misery.

 

[toobfreak]

Its amazing how easily you lunatic left fuckwits lie.
Its as natural to you as breathing.

BTW, I've seen OANN re-air that Heller interview with Dick Heller at least 3-4 times over the weekend! Dick Heller is great to listen to.

 

[M14 Shooter]

BTW, I've seen OANN re-air that Heller interview with Dick Heller at least 3-4 times over the weekend! Dick Heller is great to listen to.

I haven't ever watched that. Maybe I'll U-toob it.