Seriously? Now I think you just want to argue for the sake of being obtuse. I have patiently listened to your opinion and repeatedly expressed that it is your right to believe what you wish, while making it clear that I have the same right.
That is far from "dismissing" what you had to say, I'm just not changing my view in order to placate you, that is what appears to be your problem.
Now you are being redundant and attempting to put your personal spin on what I am stating.
There is a difference between me not caring what race you are personally, versus you NOT experiencing certain things that I did because of racial differences.
You couldn't have experienced what I did based on that. And like it or not, that is something that is just a reality.
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And that is you bringing up my race and your race as the reason(s) why your view is more valid. That you put the spin in there of "experience" is just another way of saying race.
Cause on someone of YOUR race could experience that, and I can't EXPERIENCE it, because of my race.
I was not a Union vet, no. But the Union vets were part of the generation that decided on a policy of reconciliation with the South.
Who are you to renege on that reconciliation? What moral authority do you have, that trumps those that fought and suffered to defeat the Confederacy?
Those who fought and suffered at the Confederacy are now long dead. The desire of some to commemorate their choice to do so, is their prerogative, but not a personal choice of mine.
Furthermore, where have I stated that MY opinion is more "valid" than yours?
What I stated is that there are events that I experienced that YOU did not, based on a number of of obvious factors.
That is not the same as me stating that your opinions are not "valid".
They obviously are to you, which at the risk of me sounding redundant like you are, is your right.
As far as me "reneging" on the so called reconciliation between the Confederacy and the union, I do not possess the political influence to do do.
However, I do have the right as citizen, to not agree with the opinion that the Confederate flag is not just "a harmless symbol".
Just as you have the right to believe that it is.
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But your side of the divide is not leaving at that. THey are taking steps to drive from the public square any public display of such history or pride AND to marginalize anyone that disagrees with you on this or similar issues.
It is all part of a general anti-white stance, where even saying "white" in relation to white people, is seen and treated as taboo.
(unless it is to attack them, of course)
So now, we are finally at the root cause of you
Seriously? Now I think you just want to argue for the sake of being obtuse. I have patiently listened to your opinion and repeatedly expressed that it is your right to believe what you wish, while making it clear that I have the same right.
That is far from "dismissing" what you had to say, I'm just not changing my view in order to placate you, that is what appears to be your problem.
Now you are being redundant and attempting to put your personal spin on what I am stating.
There is a difference between me not caring what race you are personally, versus you NOT experiencing certain things that I did because of racial differences.
You couldn't have experienced what I did based on that. And like it or not, that is something that is just a reality.
.......
And that is you bringing up my race and your race as the reason(s) why your view is more valid. That you put the spin in there of "experience" is just another way of saying race.
Cause on someone of YOUR race could experience that, and I can't EXPERIENCE it, because of my race.
I was not a Union vet, no. But the Union vets were part of the generation that decided on a policy of reconciliation with the South.
Who are you to renege on that reconciliation? What moral authority do you have, that trumps those that fought and suffered to defeat the Confederacy?
Those who fought and suffered at the Confederacy are now long dead. The desire of some to commemorate their choice to do so, is their prerogative, but not a personal choice of mine.
Furthermore, where have I stated that MY opinion is more "valid" than yours?
What I stated is that there are events that I experienced that YOU did not, based on a number of of obvious factors.
That is not the same as me stating that your opinions are not "valid".
They obviously are to you, which at the risk of me sounding redundant like you are, is your right.
As far as me "reneging" on the so called reconciliation between the Confederacy and the union, I do not possess the political influence to do do.
However, I do have the right as citizen, to not agree with the opinion that the Confederate flag is not just "a harmless symbol".
Just as you have the right to believe that it is.
......
But your side of the divide is not leaving at that. THey are taking steps to drive from the public square any public display of such history or pride AND to marginalize anyone that disagrees with you on this or similar issues.
It is all part of a general anti-white stance, where even saying "white" in relation to white people, is seen and treated as taboo.
(unless it is to attack them, of course)
So now, after numerous posts, we are finally at the root cause of your anguish over the Confederate flag not being universally accepted by all Americans.
And not sharing your view of it, is the equivalent of being me being "anti white.
That is simply astonishing. Especially since I have not personally criticized your embrace of it at all.
In fact, I've reinforced your right to believe as you wish.
Your view of my personal non acceptance of the Confederate flag as an "anti white" position, in spite of the fact that I personally viewed it as a symbol of anti civil rights, and saw it as such, because it was an ever present symbol of belief to those whose fundamental ideology was that people "like me" were not entitled as citizens such rights.
I get it now.
In your view, people like me, who actually saw what it stood for in my lifetime, should just acquiesce and assume an empathetic and passive posture because those like you who were not even here to experience what those like me did, just because YOU happen to consider it to be an "anti white" assault on the white population as a whole..
Correct?
YOu are stating that blacks are morally superior to whites because of their "experiences" that whites cannot have because of race.
You are trying to dance around stating the the basis of your difference in rules, is based on skin color.
That you judge whites, as a race, to not be able to have the "experiences" that you have had, and thus to not be able to understand your "experiences",
is just an evasive and lawyer speak way of avoiding admitting that you have different rules for people depending on their race.
And whites are low man on the totem pole, in your view.
That is what is anti-white about it.
I reject your race based rules. My "experiences" and the things I have personally "viewed" are just as valid as yours.
The "experiences" of millions, tens of millions of Americans for whom those symbols have been harmless symbols of regional pride are just as valid as yours.
And for you, and/or people like you to demonize them, or marginalize them, or call them names, based on that, is an assault on them and me and mine.
A symbolic one, sometimes. But not always.