The essential utility of Trump's falsehoods.

[scruffy]

I don't have a 'side', I say the same to both tribes.

No, you don't.

 

[struth]

If you'd like to see the bond market's reaction to the debate click on the link and then click on the 5 day chart.

https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US20Y

See the spike in yields on the 20 year? That is the bond market saying inflation will return in a Trump admin.

Sixteen Nobel Prize-winning economists warn a second Trump term would ‘reignite’ inflation​

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/25/nobel-prize-economists-warn-trump-inflation.html

Inflation hasn’t left in a xiden admin

 

[struth]

I'm speaking about the evidence presented to the grand jury. The evidence that was so persuasive they voted to indict Trump and his co-conspirators. Evidence so compelling 3 of his co-conspirators have plead guilt.

Two more Trump co-defendants plead guilty. What next?​

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/21/politics/trump-georgia-guilty-pleas-what-matters/index.html

why are you posting a link from Oct of 2023?

 

[westwall]

Ok. I see. Denial of objective truth is a prerequisite to be a Trump cultist. Which is the theme of the thread. Thanks for the confirmation the premise is correct.

What objective truth?

Present some.

 

[Boo Radley]

That dumbass incoherent title ensures that many will never even read that.

 

[Lastamender]

One prosecutor hiring another is corrupt?

You have lost this argument.

 

[surada]

WE GOTEEEM NOW!, chapter 37,204.

Trump said Mail in voting is a hoax.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

You have lost this argument.

Trump quietly adds new attorney to January 6 legal team​

CNN
https://www.cnn.com › 2023/07/19 › politics › john-lau...
Jul 19, 2023 — Former President Donald Trump has quietly added a new criminal defense attorney to his legal team as he faces a potential indictment in the ...

Trump?
Isn't allowed?

 

[Lastamender]

Trump quietly adds new attorney to January 6 legal team​

View attachment 970002
CNN
https://www.cnn.com › 2023/07/19 › politics › john-lau...
Jul 19, 2023 — Former President Donald Trump has quietly added a new criminal defense attorney to his legal team as he faces a potential indictment in the ...

Trump?
Isn't allowed?

Old news cretin.

 

[protectionist]

1. Those being prosecuted have committed crimes. Like assaulting law enforcement officers and destruction of government property

2. Biden’s bank records show nothing of the kind.

3. Stupid comment

4. None of that has anything to do with JOE Biden

This moronic post was completely refuted by the post it quoted.

 

[protectionist]

Ok. I see. Denial of objective truth is a prerequisite to be a Trump cultist. Which is the theme of the thread. Thanks for the confirmation the premise is correct.

How does it feel to be part of the minority who calls the majority of Americans "cultist" ? It's getting to be that your "cultist" framework is coming apart at the seams.

Trump crushed Biden in debate, new poll reveals: ‘More presidential’

The poll also found that Trump made strides in allaying voter fears about his fitness for office — while Biden exacerbated them.

nypost.com

 

[protectionist]

I was going to write a post making a comparison between what we can expect from another Biden admin or Trump admin. Because it is top of mind for the country I was going to make the point an advantage to another Biden admin is we do not have to concern ourselves with him using the DoJ to go after who he perceives to be his enemies as Trump has promised to do........and did when he was prez.

Justice Department pressured former US attorney to bring cases against Trump enemies, Geoffrey Berman says
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jus...n, who served 2,Secretary of State John Kerry.

Obviously, I know what the reflexive reply from The Following will be. They will allege, without credible evidence, the votes of four grand juries to indict Trump and his co-conspirators was a deep state plot hatched by Joe. It is, at its core, a ludicrous argument to make. But it serves two essential purposes. 1. Allows The Following to dismiss Don's criminal behavior as him being persecuted. 2. Removes, in their minds, a fundamental difference between what we can expect from the two admins.

From that perspective it's easy to see why Trump uses so many false accusations. It disarms the opposition while creating a deceitful construct for his base to believe in. Like claiming Joe, absent evidence that holds up to scrutiny, has taken bribe money from foreign countries. It's utility, obfuscating Trump's established record of criminal activity including a conviction. Not to mention.........

WASHINGTON — Former President Donald Trump received at least $7.8 million in payments from foreign governments during two of his four years in the White House, according to a report released Thursday by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee.

Twenty foreign governments made the payments to Trump's businesses during the two-year period that the committee was able to review. The information in the report was first reported by The New York Times and CNN.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...oreign-governments-president-repor-rcna132276

The replies from defenders of all things Trump will prove how effective his strategy has been.

Name ONE Trump "falsehood"

 

[Lesh]

Name ONE Trump "falsehood"

Trump claimed credit for the $35 cap on insulin

False

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Trump claimed credit for the $35 cap on insulin

False

President Trump Announces Lower Out of Pocket Insulin Costs for Medicare’s Seniors
​

May 26, 2020


Today, under President Trump’s leadership, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) announced that over 1,750 standalone Medicare Part D prescription drug plans and Medicare Advantage plans with prescription drug coverage have applied to offer lower insulin costs through the Part D Senior Savings Model for the 2021 plan year. Across the nation, participating enhanced Part D prescription drug plans will provide Medicare beneficiaries access to a broad set of insulins at a maximum $35 copay for a month’s supply, from the beginning of the year through the Part D coverage gap. The model follows on the Trump Administration’s previously announced 13.5 percent decline in the average monthly basic Part D premium since 2017 to the lowest level in seven years.

Currently, Part D sponsors may offer prescription drug plans that provide lower cost-sharing in the coverage gap; however, when they do, the Part D sponsor accrues costs that pharmaceutical manufacturers would normally pay. These costs are then passed on to beneficiaries in the form of higher premiums. The new insulin model directly addresses this disincentive by doing two things: 1) allowing manufacturers to continue paying their full coverage gap discount for their products, even when a plan offers lower cost-sharing; and 2) requiring participating Part D sponsors’ plans, in part through applying manufacturer rebates, to lowering cost-sharing to no more than $35 for a month’s supply for a broad set of insulins.

President Trump Announces Lower Out of Pocket Insulin Costs for Medicare’s Seniors | CMS

Today, under President Trump’s leadership, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) announced that over 1,750 standalone Medicare Part D prescription drug plans and Medicare Advantage plans with prescription drug coverage have applied to offer lower insulin costs through the Part D...

www.cms.gov

 

[westwall]

President Trump Announces Lower Out of Pocket Insulin Costs for Medicare’s Seniors​

​

May 26, 2020


Today, under President Trump’s leadership, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) announced that over 1,750 standalone Medicare Part D prescription drug plans and Medicare Advantage plans with prescription drug coverage have applied to offer lower insulin costs through the Part D Senior Savings Model for the 2021 plan year. Across the nation, participating enhanced Part D prescription drug plans will provide Medicare beneficiaries access to a broad set of insulins at a maximum $35 copay for a month’s supply, from the beginning of the year through the Part D coverage gap. The model follows on the Trump Administration’s previously announced 13.5 percent decline in the average monthly basic Part D premium since 2017 to the lowest level in seven years.

Currently, Part D sponsors may offer prescription drug plans that provide lower cost-sharing in the coverage gap; however, when they do, the Part D sponsor accrues costs that pharmaceutical manufacturers would normally pay. These costs are then passed on to beneficiaries in the form of higher premiums. The new insulin model directly addresses this disincentive by doing two things: 1) allowing manufacturers to continue paying their full coverage gap discount for their products, even when a plan offers lower cost-sharing; and 2) requiring participating Part D sponsors’ plans, in part through applying manufacturer rebates, to lowering cost-sharing to no more than $35 for a month’s supply for a broad set of insulins.

President Trump Announces Lower Out of Pocket Insulin Costs for Medicare’s Seniors | CMS

Today, under President Trump’s leadership, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) announced that over 1,750 standalone Medicare Part D prescription drug plans and Medicare Advantage plans with prescription drug coverage have applied to offer lower insulin costs through the Part D...

www.cms.gov

BOOM!

 

[protectionist]

Trump claimed credit for the $35 cap on insulin

False

You'll have to supply a lot more than that, You think we just take it on faith ?

Never mind, I did my own research >> The idea of a $35 monthly cost cap for insulin actually has a bipartisan pedigree. The Trump administration had created a voluntary option for Medicare enrollees to get insulin for $35, and the Biden administration continued it.

House passes $35-a-month insulin cap as Dems seek wider bill

The House on Thursday passed a bill capping the monthly cost of insulin at $35 for insured patients.

nypost.com

Toddsterpatriot also refuted your claim in post 219. As for me, I'm still waiting for somebody to show up with ONE so-called "lie", all these Trump bashers keep yammering about.

 

[Lesh]

You'll have to supply a lot more than that, You think we just take it on faith ?

Never mind, I did my own research >> The idea of a $35 monthly cost cap for insulin actually has a bipartisan pedigree. The Trump administration had created a voluntary option for Medicare enrollees to get insulin for $35, and the Biden administration continued it.

House passes $35-a-month insulin cap as Dems seek wider bill

The House on Thursday passed a bill capping the monthly cost of insulin at $35 for insured patients.

nypost.com

Toddsterpatriot also refuted your claim in post 219. As for me, I'm still waiting for somebody to show up with ONE so-called "lie", all these Trump bashers keep yammering about.

Trump claimed credit for the whole insulin deal. That’s a lie

He created a pilot program that was voluntary on the part of manufacturers and was only helpful for some people.

Biden got it into the IRA as mandatory for virtually everyone

But you don’t care that Trump lied.

You never do.

 

[protectionist]

Trump claimed credit for the whole insulin deal. That’s a lie

He created a pilot program that was voluntary on the part of manufacturers and was only helpful for some people.

Biden got it into the IRA as mandatory for virtually everyone

But you don’t care that Trump lied.

You never do.

It wasnt a lie. He got he thing started, and if thats the best you can come up with, WOW. What happened to the "30,000 lies" ? Remember that ? HA HA HA. Do you realize how ridiculous you look. ?

I posted 20 lies that Biden told during the debate, wth real substance & sources. That's where the lies are. I also posted a link to 369 ACTUAL lies that Biden has told all through his life. I think he might be topping even Hillary, at this point. That's pretty bad.

 

[protectionist]

He has created and nurtured an environment in which his reptilian instincts for manipulation are in perfect sync with the needs of his followers.

His three primary weapons are absolute, free-flowing fabrication, constant attacks to keep others on the defensive, and non-stop victimhood.

And as always, this ain't about him. It's about the need for someone like him. He was right about his Fifth Avenue rule, and that's pretty profound.

Name ONE lie Trump ever told, being prepared to back it up.

 

[protectionist]

There is no reason to replace him.

To bad more people don't think that, but Democrats dont have anybody to replace him with anyway, so they are toast come November.