The Erosion of Individual Responsibility

[JakeStarkey]

There was no common sense given by PP or Christopher, just a statement they can't support.

Time to move on because they have a fail.

 

[editec]

We're still FREE to go broke even while holding down one or two full or part time jobs trying not to.

That basic American freedom is, I suspect, never going to change.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

There was no common sense given by PP or Christopher, just a statement they can't support.

Time to move on because they have a fail.

Much like the statement you just made.....fail.

 

[JakeStarkey]

See, PP, cannot support his silly comment from before. You are so good for grins and chuckles.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

See, PP, cannot support his silly comment from before. You are so good for grins and chuckles.

I have seen NOTHING from you either other than your unqualified, partisan opinion...

nothing to see here folks...move on...Jake is just another partisan hack looking for legitimacy from his leftard cohorts....move along.

 

[JakeStarkey]

PP, either support your opinion, or it is the same as everybody else: we all have elbows. Who cares? If you wish to debate, support your opinion, which you have not done yet.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

PP, either support your opinion, or it is the same as everybody else: we all have elbows. Who cares? If you wish to debate, support your opinion, which you have not done yet.

Preserved for truthmatters to see

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

We're still FREE to go broke even while holding down one or two full or part time jobs trying not to.

That basic American freedom is, I suspect, never going to change.

Yep. One has to assume that anybody holding down 2 full time jobs and is still going broke is a loser.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

I posted something similar to this in another forum and wanted to see other’s thoughts on this. Over the last decade I have noticed a pattern from the government (which I believe has been occurring for much longer) that involves the increase in the number of policies which remove one’s individual responsibility. ...

Good call Christopher... that's called Leftism; Progressivism, socialism, communism... and all of the various and numerous 'isms' of the ideological left.

It's a lie... raw deceit... abject, unadulterated fraud; in short, it's tyrannical stupidity.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

We're still FREE to go broke even while holding down one or two full or part time jobs trying not to.

That basic American freedom is, I suspect, never going to change.

ROFLMNAO... Poor Ed... Like being broke is somehow worse than being tyranized by socialists whose goal is to KEEP YOU BROKE!

 

[JakeStarkey]

PubliusInfinitum simply won't believe the true tyranny comes from corporate fascists on the far right, who nearly brought this country down in the Bush years. That will never be permitted to happen again.

 

[Christopher]

PubliusInfinitum simply won't believe the true tyranny comes from corporate fascists on the far right, who nearly brought this country down in the Bush years. That will never be permitted to happen again.

Perhaps he/she doesn’t believe because you have provided no evidence to support your statement that “true tyranny” only comes from the right. What does “true tyranny” even mean?

You make a statement like this even after the many times you repeated in this thread that we should provide evidence to support our opinions before you would rebut them. Doesn’t that seem a little hypocritical?

 

[JakeStarkey]

This is an opinion, not a fact, thus I don't have to support it.

I see you twisted my opinion to include "only", which I did not do. That's deceptive and fraudulent. If you can respond honestly, then your comments are irrelevant.

 

[DiamondDave]

Well.. jokey has one thing right.... what he posts is definitely opinion... and definitely not fact

 

[JakeStarkey]

Much like you, Dave. When I post an opinion that needs to be substantiated, I do that. You appear to be unable to do that. That is why only the whingers of the reactionary right go along with your silliness.

 

[DiamondDave]

Much like you, Dave. When I post an opinion that needs to be substantiated, I do that. You appear to be unable to do that. That is why only the whingers of the reactionary right go along with your silliness.

Funny... still waiting for you to simply point out in the constitution anywhere that supports (even remotely) your stance of the powers of the SC... I have THOROUGHLY shown support of my stance

You are one delusional lying ************, jokey

 

[Skull Pilot]

The more responsibility you take from people the more irresponsible they become.

 

[saveliberty]

The more responsibility you take from people the more irresponsible they become.

Baaa...baaa....how is that bad? Baaaa.....baaaa

Pretty soon we won't need feet, because no one will be standing on two of them.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Much like you, Dave. When I post an opinion that needs to be substantiated, I do that. You appear to be unable to do that. That is why only the whingers of the reactionary right go along with your silliness.

Funny... still waiting for you to simply point out in the constitution anywhere that supports (even remotely) your stance of the powers of the SC... I have THOROUGHLY shown support of my stance

You are one delusional lying ************, jokey

Go back to Article III, read it carefully, Dave, and tell us all why it supports your position.

Such language, little boy, such language.

 

[DiamondDave]

Much like you, Dave. When I post an opinion that needs to be substantiated, I do that. You appear to be unable to do that. That is why only the whingers of the reactionary right go along with your silliness.

Funny... still waiting for you to simply point out in the constitution anywhere that supports (even remotely) your stance of the powers of the SC... I have THOROUGHLY shown support of my stance

You are one delusional lying ************, jokey

Go back to Article III, read it carefully, Dave, and tell us all why it supports your position.

Such language, little boy, such language.

Again, jokey... the powers are strictly defined in the constitution as to what the fed (and the different parts of the fed) are allowed to do.... and that all other powers are granted to the individual and the states...
Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Here is article 3 AGAIN
Article III - The Judicial Branch Note

Section 1 - Judicial powers

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

Section 2 - Trial by Jury, Original Jurisdiction, Jury Trials

(The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party; to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State; between Citizens of different States; between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.) (This section in parentheses is modified by the 11th Amendment.)

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.

Section 3 - Treason Note

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

And nowhere in there is ANYTHING supporting your position of the huge powers of reinterpretation of constitutionality within the SC.... and with no power of this being granted to the SC, and with the constitution being the law of the land that grants to powers to the federal government, my assertion stands which is directly opposite to what you assert.... that is unless you can simply point out where in the constitution that your assertion is supported even 1 iota

Just because a government or the federal government has overreached, does not mean that it is inherently constitutional or right that it has done so