The Epstein List?

[LeftofLeft]

LOl...Trump is in charge. He can release the files. He chooses to protect himself.

It’s not just himself. If this were solely or dominated by Trump-Epstein relationship, this would have all been released during the last administration.

Try being objective, logical. and not let hatred of Trump blind you as to why this has been and issue long before Trump ran for 2nd Term. Why didn’t Democrats use it to bury Trump?

 

[sealybobo]

How? He cut all ties with Epstein about 20 years ago, dipshit!

Sure he did dummy. You believe everything you're told? And 20 years ago Trump was a 60 year old pedo going on Howard Stern talking about how he'd be ******* Ivanka if she wasn't his kid. **** off you hypocrite.

What did we find out in 2021?

Donald Trump appears to have flown on Jeffrey Epstein’s private jets six more times than was previously known, according to flight logs released as evidence in Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial.

And now the White House says there is no list? So ******* funny.

Did you see the tape of Trump on Fox when they asked

1. Would you release the JFK tapes? YEP he quickly says
2. Would you release the UFO files? YEP he says
3. Epstein files? Well, not that one so much.

Then Fox edited the ******* interview. You don't know shit Admiral.

 

[justoffal]

Prosecute who? The guy that got murdered in prison? lolz

They're going to dig them up and punish him some more

 

[toobfreak]

Even if the powers-that-shouldn't-be would never let the truth see the light of day (which is what I have been saying all along, they're never going to reveal the whole truth) this is not something that WE the people should just sweep under the rug and forget about. That is exactly what they want us to do.

I agree, except that without solid proof of something: specific people did this and that on such and such date to this person, no case is going anywhere. Even girls that were there and molested have only their word as to what happened unless they can produce something more concrete. And even concrete proof may not be enough to convict a very wealthy person, they can afford to buy their freedom.

If there are criminals in power (which there are, on both sides, anyone who doesn't believe that needs to wake the hell up)

I have a theory that everyone in power is a criminal, that is how they get in power. I've known people who were very rich and powerful, and they all got there through criminal activity. Politicians are for the most part criminal wannabes who chum up to powerful people to gain power for themselves by committing crimes for them. But conveniently, once you get inside the political class of law-writing individuals, somehow, nothing you do is criminal--- at best you get unelected or impeached or something, or maybe a hearing which goes nowhere ever.

then if we the people on both sides don't hold their feet to the fire, or if people put politics first, then in my view we deserve to lose this country.

Then you've lost the country. Truth is that you never had the country. It is fine to hold people's feet to the fire, but who? Which people? What fire? What proof? You have no evidence of anything and the people you want to prosecute are the same people holding the evidence, if there is any.

We get what we get not just by not caring, but because in the end, it is the only choice you have.

Unless you want to go crazy, strip naked, paint yourself red and blue, then go running down the street with a sign yelling at crowds about the great cover-up.

 

[Crepitus]

If he is guilty, we want everyone known.

Now you've finally said something I can agree with.

Don't let it go to your head.

 

[buttercup]

I agree, except that without solid proof of something: specific people did this and that on such and such date to this person, no case is going anywhere. Even girls that were there and molested have only their word as to what happened unless they can produce something more concrete. And even concrete proof may not be enough to convict a very wealthy person, they can afford to buy their freedom.


I have a theory that everyone in power is a criminal, that is how they get in power. I've known people who were very rich and powerful, and they all got there through criminal activity. Politicians are for the most part criminal wannabes who chum up to powerful people to gain power for themselves by committing crimes for them. But conveniently, once you get inside the political class of law-writing individuals, somehow, nothing you do is criminal--- at best you get unelected or impeached or something, or maybe a hearing which goes nowhere ever.


Then you've lost the country. Truth is that you never had the country. It is fine to hold people's feet to the fire, but who? Which people? What fire? What proof? You have no evidence of anything and the people you want to prosecute are the same people holding the evidence, if there is any.

We get what we get not just by not caring, but because in the end, it is the only choice you have.

Unless you want to go crazy, strip naked, paint yourself red and blue, then go running down the street with a sign yelling at crowds about the great cover-up.

If you genuinely believe that everyone in power is a criminal, why do you still participate in the shitshow? Because you think we have "no choice"? Your theory is the reason why I no longer put my trust in the system or take part in it. That's a choice in and of itself. And btw that doesn't mean ignoring everything and being silent. These days, my motto is what Ephesians 5:11 says.

 

[buttercup]

What did I say in my last post that was not true, OhPleaseJustQuit?

 

[OldFlame]

I agree, except that without solid proof of something: specific people did this and that on such and such date to this person, no case is going anywhere. Even girls that were there and molested have only their word as to what happened unless they can produce something more concrete. And even concrete proof may not be enough to convict a very wealthy person, they can afford to buy their freedom.


I have a theory that everyone in power is a criminal, that is how they get in power. I've known people who were very rich and powerful, and they all got there through criminal activity. Politicians are for the most part criminal wannabes who chum up to powerful people to gain power for themselves by committing crimes for them. But conveniently, once you get inside the political class of law-writing individuals, somehow, nothing you do is criminal--- at best you get unelected or impeached or something, or maybe a hearing which goes nowhere ever.


Then you've lost the country. Truth is that you never had the country. It is fine to hold people's feet to the fire, but who? Which people? What fire? What proof? You have no evidence of anything and the people you want to prosecute are the same people holding the evidence, if there is any.

We get what we get not just by not caring, but because in the end, it is the only choice you have.

Unless you want to go crazy, strip naked, paint yourself red and blue, then go running down the street with a sign yelling at crowds about the great cover-up.

Wealth and power go hand in hand, and those who get there rarely do it without getting their hands dirty. It's been the way the world has always worked since humanity has inhabited the planet. It's naive to think that it's ever going to change, and these people who believe there is some way to fix it are just chasing rainbows.

 

[justoffal]

Of course you didn't. When you exclusively watch "The View" and MSNBC that is expected.

And roots 2,267 times

 

[Crepitus]

Such eloquent language from crappy boy. Expected and reviled. A true democrat cull drone. Trump brings out the absolute worst in his opponents, Amazing, look what he's done to you! Rubbed your nose in the dirt LOL

Are you kidding me, ShortBus? Every other word outta yer filthy mouth is "crappy".

 

[MarathonMike]

Who in here is naive enough to believe that if there were something in Epstein's list, background or life that could hurt Trump.......... That dimocrap scum wouldn't have released it, published, dramatized it, inflated it and spread all over the 'News' 24/7/365?

dimocrap scum had those 'files' or whatever for YEARS before Bondi started in on them. YEARS.

I mean, they hated Trump so much, they INVENTED shit about him. If there were something in the 'Epstein Files' - who in here is dumb enough to think dimocrap scum wouldn't have used it. Over and Over, And Over, And, Over, And Over, And Over and Over, and over, and OVER and Over again and again and again and again and again

And again and Again.

24/7/365. With dozens of CNN and pMSNBC 'specials' calls for House Investigations, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc

Don't get sucked into a dimocrap scum/Media trap.

It's one thing to distrust goobermint, we all should. But there's a point where healthy skepticism stops and goofy-assed conspiracy theories begin.

Yes and to take your point further "How do we know that Christopher Wray's anti-Trump FBI didn't ALTER the Epstein Files before Trump took office?

 

[toobfreak]

If you genuinely believe that everyone in power is a criminal, why do you still participate in the shitshow?

Whoa, Lilly, I participate in nothing other than keeping abreast of world developments so I can try to best position myself out of harm's way. Put another way, if everyone running your life was a criminal, you would recommend I just look the other way??? Wow.

Because you think we have "no choice"? Your theory is the reason why I no longer put my trust in the system or take part in it.

You have no choice. Disagree? Tell me what your choice is? Protest and carry a sign in front of the U.N.? And why should you trust the system at all? It has done nothing but screw you while exploiting you your entire life.

And btw that doesn't mean ignoring everything and being silent.

Girl, you are confused. Now you are zigzagging wildly between first condemning participating, then not participating, then bitching about participating again.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Trump is in those ******* files you idiot!

You wouldn't mind proving that

 

[sealybobo]

You wouldn't mind proving that

Let's see the files dumb ****. Oh Trump won't show them? After promising? After RUNNING on it?

Now I have to prove Trump's in the files? LOL. What a hoot. I thought Cash Patel was going to do that?

 

[OldFlame]

Whoa, Lilly, I participate in nothing other than keeping abreast of world developments so I can try to best position myself out of harm's way. Put another way, if everyone running your life was a criminal, you would recommend I just look the other way??? Wow.


You have no choice. Disagree? Tell me what your choice is? Protest and carry a sign in front of the U.N.? And why should you trust the system at all? It has done nothing but screw you while exploiting you your entire life.


Girl, you are confused. Now you are zigzagging wildly between first condemning participating, then not participating, then bitching about participating again.

She's a conspiracy nutcase.

 

[Blisterfinger]

Are you kidding me, ShortBus? Every other word outta yer filthy mouth is "crappy".

Well that is your name! Hahaha

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Let's see the files dumb ****. Oh Trump won't show them? After promising? After RUNNING on it?

Now I have to prove Trump's in the files? LOL. What a hoot. I thought Cash Patel was going to do that?

Oh you want Cash Patel to prove a negative! It's proven by the facts that Trump isn't in the files, not in the flight logs except for two flights from Florida to New York. None of the victims had ever seen him on the island. What you want is for someone to finally manufacture evidence.

 

[buttercup]

Whoa, Lilly, I participate in nothing other than keeping abreast of world developments so I can try to best position myself out of harm's way. Put another way, if everyone running your life was a criminal, you would recommend I just look the other way??? Wow.

I never even remotely said you should look the other way, I said the exact opposite!!!

You have no choice. Disagree? Tell me what your choice is?

You left out the part of my post where I said not participating in it IS a choice. You may disagree with that choice, but it IS a choice.

Protest and carry a sign in front of the U.N.? And why should you trust the system at all? It has done nothing but screw you while exploiting you your entire life.

Where did I say I trusted the system...I said the exact opposite! I said I DON'T trust the system, which is why I no longer participate in it!

Girl, you are confused. Now you are zigzagging wildly between first condemning participating, then not participating, then bitching about participating again.

You were the one who was confused by my words. I'm not confused. I simply said that I don't participate in it and I asked you why you would IF you really believe "everyone in power is a criminal." (post #284)

I didn't condemn not participating in the system, I condemned not holding politicians accountable. (I'm not even saying you're doing that, I'm talking about the act of not holding politicians accountable.) One can hold politicians feet to the fire whether they are still participating in the system or not.

 

[OldFlame]

One can hold politicians feet to the fire whether they are still participating in the system or not.

And how has that worked out for you? lol

 

[toobfreak]

Wealth and power go hand in hand, and those who get there rarely do it without getting their hands dirty.

It reminds me of something Mr. Spock once said on Star Trek long ago.

If you study the law carefully, you begin to realize that for the most part, what most people get arrested for doing as a "crime" is for individuals to (as Spock put it) engage in doing privately what the government does publicly.

Put another way, most things that are crimes are merely things the government itself has always employed for themselves as being highly effective but deems too effective for you to employ privately.

This is how governments become governments and keep little people little people; they slant the table highly in their favor, not yours.

That is why Martha Stewart went to prison for doing what Nancy Pelosi does every day of her life.