Zone1 The Double Standard

[IM2]

We must understand how complete the madness is. There are whites promoting the belief that teaching whites to stop being racists creates more white supremacists. This belief is promoted by so-called alt-right “intellectuals” and self-declared “conservatives.” They cite articles written and classes taught by anti-racists as the cause. In the May 23rd, 2016, online edition of The Federalist, an article titled, “How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism” was written by David Marcus.

How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism

White people are being asked—or pushed—to take stock of their whiteness and identify with it more. This is a remarkably bad idea.

thefederalist.com

If Anti racist rhetoric is turning whites into racists, what about the effects of never ending 400 years of white racism on people of color?

 

[1srelluc]

 

[odanny]

There are whites promoting the belief that teaching whites to stop being racists creates more white supremacists.

That's not what whites think at all, what those whites think is that teaching critical race theory, or any other more accurate, and less flattering, version of history implies more white guilt. And they are both threatened and angered by this. Americans of all races are largely ignorant of history. I seriously doubt more than 15-20% of Americans know of any history past the last 100 years, and that is being very generous, and optimistic.

Probably not accurate and the % is much worse. .

 

[1srelluc]

OP needs to ante-up and kick-in like a man......The white man paid his dues in blood and that is all the negros are owed. The rest is on them.

 

[MisterBeale]

We must understand how complete the madness is. There are whites promoting the belief that teaching whites to stop being racists creates more white supremacists. This belief is promoted by so-called alt-right “intellectuals” and self-declared “conservatives.” They cite articles written and classes taught by anti-racists as the cause. In the May 23rd, 2016, online edition of The Federalist, an article titled, “How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism” was written by David Marcus.

How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism

White people are being asked—or pushed—to take stock of their whiteness and identify with it more. This is a remarkably bad idea.

thefederalist.com

If Anti racist rhetoric is turning whites into racists, what about the effects of never ending 400 years of white racism on people of color?

Institutions can teach the truth, the FACTS about history, without teaching that history is always subjective.

Critical race theory, is about teaching young folks, that all of history is subjective, depending on ones POV.

It is not. Certain events in history are facts. Names, dates and events.

Critical theory, is anti-enlightenment. It is based on the principal, that all people are not born with equal inalienable rights. But, under our form of government and law? THEY ARE.

In America? We are all born with an equal right, to the share of our protection of civil rights and civil liberties. If we are not, we have the right to take legal action for redress.

Critical Theory is anti-American, and has no place in government funded education, it is subversive to our nation, and will only promote the disintegration of civil society by pitting one group against another. Whether it is ethnic group against ethnic group, sexual orientation against sexual orientation, one generation against another, one class against another, etc. etc. etc.


We need one culture, an American culture, and one America, and one set of laws, applied equally to all, as we have always had.

Not different sets of standards and different laws, for different people, depending on how they feel about themselves, their sub-communities, and their circumstances in life.

That is absurd and insane, and going backward. It is nothing but a recipe for balkanization, chaos, and anarchy.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We must understand how complete the madness is. There are whites promoting the belief that teaching whites to stop being racists creates more white supremacists. This belief is promoted by so-called alt-right “intellectuals” and self-declared “conservatives.” They cite articles written and classes taught by anti-racists as the cause. In the May 23rd, 2016, online edition of The Federalist, an article titled, “How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism” was written by David Marcus.

How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism

White people are being asked—or pushed—to take stock of their whiteness and identify with it more. This is a remarkably bad idea.

thefederalist.com

If Anti racist rhetoric is turning whites into racists, what about the effects of never ending 400 years of white racism on people of color?

Blacks were improving, until LBJ put them back on the plantation with the New Society.
Now look at them. Nothing but failing dem dupes.

 

[odanny]

OP needs to ante-up and kick-in like a man......The white man paid his dues in blood and that is all the negros are owed. The rest is on them.

Dude, they've been screwed over since the end of the Civil, and it literally took 100 years to get legislation passed insuring equal rights. As an anecdotal observation, I live in a town with a lot of black people, and most all of them that I run across, and yes some are thuggish, too, are cool. You give them a little, and you get a lot back in return. Courtesy, friendliness, helpfulness, all that. Furthermore, I've worked with them and some of them aint worth a shit, and I've seen far more whites that aint worth a shit, so it works both ways.

All that said, I prefer a largely white neighborhood, because the facts in my town is crime, especially property crime, is far worse in neighborhoods with fewer white people, and far better in neighborhoods with mainly white people.

 

[1srelluc]

Dude, they've been screwed over since the end of the Civil, and it literally took 100 years to get legislation passed insuring equal rights. As an anecdotal observation, I live in a town with a lot of black people, and most all of them that I run across, and yes some are thuggish, too, are cool. You give them a little, and you get a lot back in return. Courtesy, friendliness, helpfulness, all that. Furthermore, I've worked with them and some of them aint worth a shit, and I've seen far more whites that aint worth a shit, so it works both ways.

All that said, I prefer a largely white neighborhood, because the facts in my town is crime, especially property crime, is far worse in neighborhoods with fewer white people, and far better in neighborhoods with mainly white people.

Was it easy on the Irish or Chinese Americans when they arrived here?

Hell's afire, FDR (a dem BTW) locked 125K Japanese Americans away in internment camps!

Those folks did OK for themselves by and by once the politicians stopped trying to make hay with them.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Was it easy on the Irish or Chinese Americans when they arrived here?

Hell's afire, FDR (a dem BTW) locked 125K Japanese Americans away in internment camps!

Those folks did OK for themselves by and by once the politicians stopped trying to make hay with them.

Yep.
Blacks are the only minority that have been in America since the inception of America that cant seem to assimilate and become productive citizens.
They've been given every chance and they've received a shit load of hand outs yet they still cant seem to succeed in America.
They then of course blame whitey yet refuse to move to an all black country where by their reckoning they wouldnt be subjugated.

 

[IM2]

Blacks were improving, until LBJ put them back on the plantation with the New Society.
Now look at them. Nothing but failing dem dupes.

Wrong. I'm black. I know what's happened. I don't need some idiot right winger to whitesplain what has happened.

In 1959, poverty for blacks was 55.1 percent. For whites, it was 18.1. This was before LBJ.

In 2021, 19.5 percent of Black people living in the United States were living below the poverty line.

So you need to quit repeating that silly right wing junk.

On February 26, 2018, fifty years after the Kerner Commission findings, the Economic Policy Institute published a report evaluating the progress of the black community since the Kerner Report was released. The study compared the improvement in black communities in 2018 with the black community at the time of the Kerner Commission. Titled “50 Years After the Kerner Commission,” the study concluded that there had been some improvements in the situation blacks faced, but blacks still faced disadvantages based on race.

Following up on this, Richard Rothstein of the Economic Policy Institute wrote an op-ed published in the February 28, 2018 edition of the New York Daily News titled, “50 years after the Kerner Commission, minimal racial progress.” After studying the Kerner Report, Rothstein stated: “So little has changed since 1968 that the report remains worth reading as a near-contemporary description of racial inequality.”

There is a reason for this:

“In short, a large number of white Americans have become comfortable with as much racial inequality and segregation as a putatively nondiscriminatory polity and free market economy can produce. Hence, the reproduction and, on some dimensions, the worsening of racial inequalities. These circumstances are rendered culturally palatable by the new ideology of Laissez Faire Racism.”
-Lawrence Bobo, James R. Kluegel, Ryan A. Smith - LAISSEZ FAIRE RACISM: The Crystallization of a ‘Kinder, Gentler’ Anti-Black Ideology

“Laissez-Faire Racism involves persistent negative stereotyping of African Americans, a tendency to blame blacks themselves for the black-white gap in socioeconomic standing, and resistance to meaningful policy efforts to ameliorate America’s racist social conditions and institutions.”

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Wrong. I'm black. I know what's happened. I don't need some idiot right winger to whitesplain what has happened.

In 1959, poverty for blacks was 55.1 percent. For whites, it was 18.1. This was before LBJ.

In 2021, 19.5 percent of Black people living in the United States were living below the poverty line.

So you need to quit repeating that silly right wing junk.

On February 26, 2018, fifty years after the Kerner Commission findings, the Economic Policy Institute published a report evaluating the progress of the black community since the Kerner Report was released. The study compared the improvement in black communities in 2018 with the black community at the time of the Kerner Commission. Titled “50 Years After the Kerner Commission,” the study concluded that there had been some improvements in the situation blacks faced, but blacks still faced disadvantages based on race.

Following up on this, Richard Rothstein of the Economic Policy Institute wrote an op-ed published in the February 28, 2018 edition of the New York Daily News titled, “50 years after the Kerner Commission, minimal racial progress.” After studying the Kerner Report, Rothstein stated: “So little has changed since 1968 that the report remains worth reading as a near-contemporary description of racial inequality.”

There is a reason for this:

“In short, a large number of white Americans have become comfortable with as much racial inequality and segregation as a putatively nondiscriminatory polity and free market economy can produce. Hence, the reproduction and, on some dimensions, the worsening of racial inequalities. These circumstances are rendered culturally palatable by the new ideology of Laissez Faire Racism.”
-Lawrence Bobo, James R. Kluegel, Ryan A. Smith - LAISSEZ FAIRE RACISM: The Crystallization of a ‘Kinder, Gentler’ Anti-Black Ideology

“Laissez-Faire Racism involves persistent negative stereotyping of African Americans, a tendency to blame blacks themselves for the black-white gap in socioeconomic standing, and resistance to meaningful policy efforts to ameliorate America’s racist social conditions and institutions.”

Hmmmm....
If things are so great for you why do you keep whining?
If I see a white guy sucking at his job it's not my concern. I may give them some advice but that as far as I'm going to take it.
If they want to suck thats on them.

 

[IM2]

Yep.
Blacks are the only minority that have been in America since the inception of America that cant seem to assimilate and become productive citizens.
They've been given every chance and they've received a shit load of hand outs yet they still cant seem to succeed in America.
They then of course blame whitey yet refuse to move to an all black country where by their reckoning they wouldnt be subjugated.

We have not received the amount of handouts whites have

Zone1 - The White Affirmative Action Program

Expect you to back up a thing you say? Noted is your deflection from showing how you know my skin color much less producing anything racist I have ever said! That is STRIKE ONE against you again proving you a racist, lying, race-baiting bullshitter. There is nobody here who agrees with me...

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[IM2]

Hmmmm....
If things are so great for you why do you keep whining?
If I see a white guy sucking at his job it's not my concern. I may give them some advice but that as far as I'm going to take it.
If they want to suck thats on them.

Because we still face racial disparities that whites don't. Now shut up.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

We have not received the amount of handouts whites have

Zone1 - The White Affirmative Action Program

Expect you to back up a thing you say? Noted is your deflection from showing how you know my skin color much less producing anything racist I have ever said! That is STRIKE ONE against you again proving you a racist, lying, race-baiting bullshitter. There is nobody here who agrees with me...

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Thats always your excuse.
I never recieved shit from the government.
And if you never received a handout and your still doing well what does that say about your brothers?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Because we still face racial disparities that whites don't. Now shut up.

If thats the case how did you get ahead?

 

[IM2]

If thats the case how did you get ahead?

There are 47 million blacks. We are 13 percent of the population and have 2 percent of the wealth. You per capita punks can't mention that. So stop thinking that 1-2 blacks means racism isn't a problem.

 

[IM2]

Thats always your excuse.
I never recieved shit from the government.
And if you never received a handout and your still doing well what does that say about your brothers?

Yes you have. Indirectly through your parents. You have been hired for jobs during your life only because you are white. Whites have recieved the most handouts in this country and it been paid for by taxes non whites have paid into the system.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

There are 47 million blacks. We are 13 percent of the population and have 2 percent of the wealth. You per capita punks can't mention that. So stop thinking that 1-2 blacks means racism isn't a problem.

It's always something with you isnt it?
How about you give me some numbers,accurate numbers with links.
You know I cant trust you to tell the truth.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Yes you have. Indirectly through your parents. You have been hired for jobs during your life only because you are white. Whites have recieved the most handouts in this country and it been paid for by taxes non whites have paid into the system.

I didnt get a dime from my parents.
While my father was wealthy my step mother got it all.

 

[IM2]

That's not what whites think at all, what those whites think is that teaching critical race theory, or any other more accurate, and less flattering, version of history implies more white guilt. And they are both threatened and angered by this. Americans of all races are largely ignorant of history. I seriously doubt more than 15-20% of Americans know of any history past the last 100 years, and that is being very generous, and optimistic.

Probably not accurate and the % is much worse. .

Since whites here have said that and the writer of the article is white and saying it, then yes, there are whites who think that.