The Day After

[Shusha]

In my opinion, the whole idea of a “day after” plan was introduced far too early and far too much as an Israel-only responsibility. It is probably still too soon, but I’m beginning to see ideas floating around.

One is from Ahmed Alkhatib for Gaza Transitional Service.

(Link didn’t work.)

My concern with this is that I think it needs more Israeli partnership. Not with the military, but with willing investors and humanitarian partners.

Thoughts?

 

[Shusha]

Can't get the link to work the way I want. I'll just post a summary.

Gaza Transitional Service

1. Gaza Police Force. Law and order and counter-terrorism. Comprised of Gazans, with external contractors for training, PA observers, and Arab managers.

2. Regional Stabilization Mission. Deployed along borders to prevent infiltration and to protect crossings. Comprised of Abraham Accords nations (UAE, Bahrain, Morocco) military force with clear use-of-force mandate. Full co-ordination and co-operation with Israel.

3. Community Peacekeeping Force. Civilian administration for humanitarian aid provision, medical care, education, community relations, mediation, deradicalization, trauma-recovery. Comprised of Gazan former administrators, international NGOs, a-political professionals.

4. International Co-operation and Co-ordination Council. Oversees restoration, stability, recovery, reconstruction, planning, financial transparency and auditing, future government. Comprised of the UN, the European Union, the Arab League, other intranational organizations, NGOs, risk management companies, private enterprise, and international corporations.

 

[1srelluc]

Darn, I thought this thread was about this:

 

[Shusha]

Darn, I thought this thread was about this:

Sorry to disappoint.

 

[1srelluc]

Sorry to disappoint.

Well it might work in Gaza on a slightly smaller scale.

 

[toomuchtime_]

In my opinion, the whole idea of a “day after” plan was introduced far too early and far too much as an Israel-only responsibility. It is probably still too soon, but I’m beginning to see ideas floating around.

One is from Ahmed Alkhatib for Gaza Transitional Service.

(Link didn’t work.)

My concern with this is that I think it needs more Israeli partnership. Not with the military, but with willing investors and humanitarian partners.

Thoughts?

There is no day after in the foreseeable future just as there was no day before. When the IDF manages to disarm the terrorists and bring relative calm to the area, it will stay that way only as long as Israel maintains security control over Gaza, and no Arab country is going to send its troops to Gaza to fight and die to prevent the Palestinians from attacking Israel.

The only day after that counts is the day after the Palestinians decide to live in peace with Israel, and that is at best generations away.

 

[Shusha]

There is no day after in the foreseeable future just as there was no day before. When the IDF manages to disarm the terrorists and bring relative calm to the area, it will stay that way only as long as Israel maintains security control over Gaza, and no Arab country is going to send its troops to Gaza to fight and die to prevent the Palestinians from attacking Israel.

The only day after that counts is the day after the Palestinians decide to live in peace with Israel, and that is at best generations away.

I continue to live in hope (perhaps falsely) that there are at least some in Gaza who are willing to live in peace with Jews, with Israel, and with a Jewish State as a Jewish State. How to separate them from the rest remains an insurmountable task, and we agree will likely be multiple generations in the making.

There are numerous problems with calling for the Abraham Accords nations to provide a military force for border control. There really isn't any built-in incentive for them to want to take on that role. Especially if it has a mandated use-of-force requirement. As in, if there is another "peaceful" ahem cough cough March of Return or Al Aqsa Flood, are they (the Arab force) going to be willing to be the barrier between those "innocent Gazan civilians" and the Israeli border? And even if they are, will they also be willing to take responsibility for their actions in both the Arab world and the international community?

See, I actually think that there is a good portion of the Arab world that is ready to pursue peace and co-operation with Israel for a better future in the Middle East. I think they see (better than we do) the upcoming internal conflict in the Arab world. But they are not ready to say it out loud just yet. (Big difference between signing a peace treaty and actually sending troops to defend Israel). Mostly because not every one in the Arab world has "declared" one way or another. For clarity, the divide in the Arab world I'm speaking of is not sectarian, but instead "conversion by violence" vs "conversion by enticement". (Not that I am a fan of conversion in any form, but baby steps).

 

[fncceo]

Well it might work in Gaza on a slightly smaller scale.

Check which way the wind is blowing first.

Wouldn’t want to hurt the good guys.