The Data Proves It A Scam

[PoliticalChic]

You're denying that he fell off a ten foot ladder?

He did. How do you know that killer him?

Here's a clue, Einstein....



According to the World Health Organization, the United States leads the world in ladder deaths. Each year, there are more than 164,000 emergency room-treated injuries and 300 deaths in the U.S. that are caused by falls from ladders.
Ladder Safety - InterNACHI®

OMG if these people would have been wearing masks they wouldn't have fallen from those ladders!!!!

In fairness.....had he stayed six feet from the ladder, he wouldn't have either.

 

[colfax_m]

Here's a clue, Einstein....

Hold on. 164,000 ER treated injuries and only 300 deaths? It has a mortality rate that is less than 0.2% and likely far lower. So the chances of dying from falling off a ladder is miniscule.

So how do you know he fall from the ladder killed him?

 

[colfax_m]

OMG if these people would have been wearing masks they wouldn't have fallen from those ladders!!!!

More accurately, if he hadn’t had COVID, he wouldn’t have fallen from the ladder.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The real cause of the Wuhan Scamdemic was the Trump presidency: if Trump hadn't been as successful, what with his miraculous economy and foreign policy success......

...heck, the Democrats wouldn't have needed the scam.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here's a clue, Einstein....

Hold on. 164,000 ER treated injuries and only 300 deaths? It has a mortality rate that is less than 0.2% and likely far lower. So the chances of dying from falling off a ladder is miniscule.

So how do you know he fall from the ladder killed him?

Miniscule compared with zero, you dunce.


The chances of dying from the Wuhan are no more than a rounding error.


Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox. 10/6:

"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.



What would the Devil.....er, Democrat Party do without dunces like you?

 

[Rigby5]

Bogus.

The man who fell off the ladder underwent an autopsy.

Were you aware he only had superficial trauma to his head? A small subarachnoid hemorrhage is not fatal. He didn’t die from the fall.

What they did find was massive pulmonary venous congestion, microthromi, fibrin deposition with large inflammatory processes in the alveoli.

He had severe pneumonia.

Why did he fall off the ladder? The most likely explanation was progressive hypoxia leading to cardiac arrest while he was climbing up the ladder.

There was an uncommon set of circumstances that even lead to this person having a COVID test and autopsy. The fact that he had attempted resuscitation by EMS meant he got a COVID swab. The fact that it was a workplace death meant he got an autopsy to confirm cause of death. It would have been extremely easy for a death with an obvious cause without further examination to be misidentified as not having anything to do with COVID.

What this should demonstrate to you is that report of deaths is most likely under counted than over counted.

I don’t expect any coherent response from you and there’s a pretty good chance you aren’t going to read this far, but this is what happens when you idiots listen to the garbage right wing media like the NY Post.

I don't buy that because a person with enough lung damage to get a heart attack from climbing up a short ladder, would not have felt good enough to even carry the ladder into place.
Climbing a ladder is no harder than climbing a stair.
And no degree of lung damage is going to cause a heart attack.
If you have damaged lungs, you need to breath faster and harder, but it does not cause heart attacks unless you already are to the point of being unconscious and can't breath faster or harder any more.
That does not fit a person who is climbing a ladder.

 

[colfax_m]

between 50 and 65, 99.5%

This man was 51. His chance of dying from COVID was, based on your numbers, 0.5%. Chances of dying from falling off a ladder is less than half of that.

So how do you know he died from falling off a ladder?

 

[PoliticalChic]

OMG if these people would have been wearing masks they wouldn't have fallen from those ladders!!!!

More accurately, if he hadn’t had COVID, he wouldn’t have fallen from the ladder.

Like this????


“Florida COVID-19 fatalities data included man who died in motorcycle accident

Laura Dyrda (Twitter) - Monday, July 20th, 2020 Print | Email
A man who died in a motorcycle accident was counted among the COVID-19 related deaths in the state, leading to questions about whether the state's reported coronavirus death rates are accurate, according to Fox 35 Orlando.” Florida COVID-19 fatalities data included man who died in motorcycle accident: A man who died in a motorcycle accident was counted among the COVID-19 related deaths in the state, leading to questions about whether the state's reported coronavirus death rates are accurate, according to Fox 35 Orlando.



I've noted it before, but it is more than appropriate now:

This is what they learn in government school- if it doesn't conform to the Democrat propaganda, respond with either

"is not, issssssssss noooootttttttt!!!!"

or

"sez you!!!!!!"



Coulter noted:
"Let me give you a little tip: if you want liberalism to continue in this country, you have to realize that liberal students are being let down by their professors! They have liberal school teachers, and read the liberal press! Because of this weak preparation, they are unable to argue, to think beyond the first knee-jerk impulse. They can’t put together a logical thought. Now, compare that to a college Republican…"

 

[colfax_m]

Bogus.

The man who fell off the ladder underwent an autopsy.

Were you aware he only had superficial trauma to his head? A small subarachnoid hemorrhage is not fatal. He didn’t die from the fall.

What they did find was massive pulmonary venous congestion, microthromi, fibrin deposition with large inflammatory processes in the alveoli.

He had severe pneumonia.

Why did he fall off the ladder? The most likely explanation was progressive hypoxia leading to cardiac arrest while he was climbing up the ladder.

There was an uncommon set of circumstances that even lead to this person having a COVID test and autopsy. The fact that he had attempted resuscitation by EMS meant he got a COVID swab. The fact that it was a workplace death meant he got an autopsy to confirm cause of death. It would have been extremely easy for a death with an obvious cause without further examination to be misidentified as not having anything to do with COVID.

What this should demonstrate to you is that report of deaths is most likely under counted than over counted.

I don’t expect any coherent response from you and there’s a pretty good chance you aren’t going to read this far, but this is what happens when you idiots listen to the garbage right wing media like the NY Post.

I don't buy that because a person with enough lung damage to get a heart attack from climbing up a short ladder, would not have felt good enough to even carry the ladder into place.
Climbing a ladder is no harder than climbing a stair.
And no degree of lung damage is going to cause a heart attack.
If you have damaged lungs, you need to breath faster and harder, but it does not cause heart attacks unless you already are to the point of being unconscious and can't breath faster or harder any more.
That does not fit a person who is climbing a ladder.

He didn’t have a heart attack. A cardiac arrest is not a heart attack (although a heart attack can lead to a cardiac arrest).

 

[PoliticalChic]

between 50 and 65, 99.5%

This man was 51. His chance of dying from COVID was, based on your numbers, 0.5%. Chances of dying from falling off a ladder is less than half of that.

So how do you know he died from falling off a ladder?

See if this helps:


“Man who died after falling from ladder ruled a coronavirus death by doctors: Report

A Croatian construction worker, who fell off a ladder to his death, has reportedly been ruled a coronavirus death by doctors."

Man who died after falling from ladder ruled a coronavirus death by doctors: Report

I believe that you have made what is known as an “ID/ten T” error.



ID 10 T

 

[Rigby5]

between 50 and 65, 99.5%

This man was 51. His chance of dying from COVID was, based on your numbers, 0.5%. Chances of dying from falling off a ladder is less than half of that.

So how do you know he died from falling off a ladder?

The lung damage you described would have been very painful and debilitating.
He would have been in bed.
What the autopsy found was likely old damage, not current.
Hypoxia is not instantaneous.
If he started feeling faint from lack of oxygen, he would have stopped moving or come down off the ladder.
Heart attack from hypoxia should have shown up in the autopsy I think?
When I get hypoxia, I can tell long ahead of time, and my vision goes before anything else significant.
That just does not fit with a fall from a ladder.

 

[colfax_m]

See if this helps:

It doesn’t. The article doesn’t explain at all why they think he died from falling off a ladder.

Why do you think the fall killed him?

 

[Rigby5]

Bogus.

The man who fell off the ladder underwent an autopsy.

Were you aware he only had superficial trauma to his head? A small subarachnoid hemorrhage is not fatal. He didn’t die from the fall.

What they did find was massive pulmonary venous congestion, microthromi, fibrin deposition with large inflammatory processes in the alveoli.

He had severe pneumonia.

Why did he fall off the ladder? The most likely explanation was progressive hypoxia leading to cardiac arrest while he was climbing up the ladder.

There was an uncommon set of circumstances that even lead to this person having a COVID test and autopsy. The fact that he had attempted resuscitation by EMS meant he got a COVID swab. The fact that it was a workplace death meant he got an autopsy to confirm cause of death. It would have been extremely easy for a death with an obvious cause without further examination to be misidentified as not having anything to do with COVID.

What this should demonstrate to you is that report of deaths is most likely under counted than over counted.

I don’t expect any coherent response from you and there’s a pretty good chance you aren’t going to read this far, but this is what happens when you idiots listen to the garbage right wing media like the NY Post.

I don't buy that because a person with enough lung damage to get a heart attack from climbing up a short ladder, would not have felt good enough to even carry the ladder into place.
Climbing a ladder is no harder than climbing a stair.
And no degree of lung damage is going to cause a heart attack.
If you have damaged lungs, you need to breath faster and harder, but it does not cause heart attacks unless you already are to the point of being unconscious and can't breath faster or harder any more.
That does not fit a person who is climbing a ladder.

He didn’t have a heart attack. A cardiac arrest is not a heart attack (although a heart attack can lead to a cardiac arrest).

I agree there is a slight difference between a heart attack and cardiac arrest.
I think of a heart attack as being a shortage of oxygen to heart muscle cells however, and that is what I think fits best.
Cardiac arrest can also include more causes, such as an electrochemical problem like shortage of potassium or something, which is not relevant in this case, I think?

But the point is a person with a fever, coughing, etc., is not likely to try anything with a ladder.
Its a real stretch to claim covid caused the fall.

 

[colfax_m]

between 50 and 65, 99.5%

This man was 51. His chance of dying from COVID was, based on your numbers, 0.5%. Chances of dying from falling off a ladder is less than half of that.

So how do you know he died from falling off a ladder?

The lung damage you described would have been very painful and debilitating.
He would have been in bed.
What the autopsy found was likely old damage, not current.
Hypoxia is not instantaneous.
If he started feeling faint from lack of oxygen, he would have stopped moving or come down off the ladder.
Heart attack from hypoxia should have shown up in the autopsy I think?
When I get hypoxia, I can tell long ahead of time, and my vision goes before anything else significant.
That just does not fit with a fall from a ladder.

People are different. You wouldn’t believe what some people are willing to push through. I’m not saying it was instantaneous but doing something strenuous like walking up a ladder may have been sufficient to push him over the edge.

The damage was acute and extensive. There was no heart attack but he did have significant coronary disease. A cardiac arrest doesn’t show any findings on autopsy.

 

[bripat9643]

We all know the death figure is exageraed.

No, that's a lie. The vast majority of sentient entities do not imagine that there are evil pixies that favor the documented statistics with their magic wee wee to make it appear that the Loser is not as incompetent as they reveal him to be.

Rational Americans accept the validity of the CDC statistics over those a failed casino operator and faded reality-tv performer pulls out of his butt.

The latest delusional gambit by the Cult is on a convergent course with a previous crackpot paranoid fantasy:

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"You engineered a deadly virus that has harmed nobody!"​

Whether people accept it is irrelevant. There's abundant evidence that the figures are exaggerated. The federal government provides medical personal with plenty of motivation to make the figure as high as possible. Paying hospitals $30,000 for every COVID death is just one example.

 

[colfax_m]

But the point is a person with a fever, coughing, etc., is not likely to try anything with a ladder.
Its a real stretch to claim covid caused the fall.

Hypoxia can cause a cardiac arrest.

People with illnesses do some crazy things. Not the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen. What is 100% clear is that he didn’t die from trauma. To say it wasn’t related to COVID which he had a severe case of is a stretch.

 

[PoliticalChic]

See if this helps:

It doesn’t. The article doesn’t explain at all why they think he died from falling off a ladder.

Why do you think the fall killed him?

Explaining this scam to you, again, would be like putting an elevator in an out-house.
I'm more than copacetic with allowing readers to look at individual posts and draw their won conclusions.

 

[jbrownson0831]

See if this helps:

It doesn’t. The article doesn’t explain at all why they think he died from falling off a ladder.

Why do you think the fall killed him?

Explaining this scam to you, again, would be like putting an elevator in an out-house.
I'm more than copacetic with allowing readers to look at individual posts and draw their won conclusions.

You cannot explain facts to liberals, its like throwing water on the Wicked Witch of the West.

 

[colfax_m]

See if this helps:

It doesn’t. The article doesn’t explain at all why they think he died from falling off a ladder.

Why do you think the fall killed him?

Explaining this scam to you, again, would be like putting an elevator in an out-house.
I'm more than copacetic with allowing readers to look at individual posts and draw their won conclusions.

You haven’t explained anything.

Why do you think that that fall from the ladder killed him? Did he have injuries consistent with death from the fall?

No. He didn’t.

But you didn’t know that because you’re too arrogant to ever listen to anyone else.

 

[colfax_m]

See if this helps:

It doesn’t. The article doesn’t explain at all why they think he died from falling off a ladder.

Why do you think the fall killed him?

Explaining this scam to you, again, would be like putting an elevator in an out-house.
I'm more than copacetic with allowing readers to look at individual posts and draw their won conclusions.

You cannot explain facts to liberals, its like throwing water on the Wicked Witch of the West.

I have seen a distinct lack of facts from most of you guys. A lot of assumptions, but few facts.