The Christian Right is in Decline

[Colin norris]

Dang, your fellow cultists were just whining about the god fearing taking over the country.
Weird, maybe you dont get all the same emails

Nah they ain't taking over the country. Sadly, they morphed into something entirely unrecognizable as they felt their power dwindling. Donnie tapped into those fears, turning them into a weird and dangerous sort of Mr Hyde.

Right? Almost on par with you Maoists.

Do the Maoists have meetings an d accept money?

 

[Esdraelon]

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the religious right, desert religions have been in decline since their beginning - but like locust upon the fields of plenty they redevour the innocent to maintain their unyielding grip on power they will never voluntarily relinquish.

- as their books replenish for them what history proves is their endless and unyielding corruption.

That sounds like a description of all humanity. Or do you believe there is some other group that isn't guilty of the same crimes against their brothers?

 

[Esdraelon]

Dang, your fellow cultists were just whining about the god fearing taking over the country.
Weird, maybe you dont get all the same emails

Nah they ain't taking over the country. Sadly, they morphed into something entirely unrecognizable as they felt their power dwindling. Donnie tapped into those fears, turning them into a weird and dangerous sort of Mr Hyde.

Right? Almost on par with you Maoists.

Do the Maoists have meetings an d accept money?

As a rule, Marxists have had a pattern of using cultural turmoil to rise to power and, once there, have brutally crushed all resistance to their ideology. They don't "accept" money, they take whatever they want and imprison or kill those who stand in the way. If you doubt that then I'd recommend paying attention in the days and months just ahead of us. It's an old but tried and true process they use. Very much "by the book".

 

[Clyde 154]

I can't get past the NYT paywall, but as usual I found the same thing somewhere else. Great read - Sad what Trumpism has done to Evangelicals.

<few snips>

Activists imagined a glorious future. “Home-schoolers will be inordinately represented in the highest levels of leadership and power in the next generation,” Ned Ryun, a former Bush speechwriter, said at a 2005 Christian home-schooling convention. Ryun was the director of a group called Generation Joshua, which worked to get home-schooled kids into politics. The name came from the Old Testament. Moses had led the chosen people out of exile, but it was his successor, Joshua, who conquered the Holy Land.​

​

But the evangelicals who thought they were about to take over America were destined for disappointment. On Thursday, PRRI released startling new polling data showing just how much ground the religious right has lost. PRRI’s 2020 Census of American Religion, based on a survey of nearly half a million people, shows a precipitous decline in the share of the population identifying as white evangelical, from 23% in 2006 to 14.5% last year. In 2020, as in every year since 2013, the largest religious group in the United States was the religiously unaffiliated.​

​

In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.​

​

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.​

​

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.​

​

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.​

​

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”​

​

I was frightened by the religious right in its triumphant phase. But it turns out that the movement is just as dangerous in decline. Maybe more so. It didn’t take long for the cocky optimism of Generation Joshua to give way to the nihilism of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. If they can’t own the country, they’re ready to defile it.​

Full:

The Christian right is in decline

The presidency of George W. Bush may have been the high point of the modern Christian right’s influence in America. White evangelicals were the largest religious faction in the country.

www.standardspeaker.com

Imagine that............the United States in a state of Moral Decay........who'd thunk it? Could be why the US leads the world in incarceration per capita. Could be why most College Freshmen can't read or comprehend above an 8th grade level.

Could be why 1/3 of the entire US population has at some point in their lives had and transmitted an STD. According to the CDC there is at this current time about 110 million US citizens have an active STD. Could be why the US leads the world in STD infectious transmissions. With 20 million new cases every year being reported.

The age group 15-24.....accounts for over 50% of those infections. Surprise. Surprise. Its cost the citizens of the US about 16 billion dollars a year to treat these active diseases.

Could be why the US has the highest population of teen pregnancies in the World.

Could be why there are over 747, 408 registered SEX OFFENDERS in the US (that's more registered sex offenders than the number of the people who practice Orthodox Judaism (about 600000 in the US out of 7.1 million who claim to be Jews...but progressive Jews).

Could be why 18% of the women in the US declare they have been raped at least once in their lives.

Could be why 1 in 4 girls are subject to be raped before they become adults.

Could be why 89% of all porn is produced in the United States of America with the average teen boy watching at least 2 hours of porn on their internet toys every week.

Could be why the marriage rate in the US has fallen to an all time low with only 6.8 out of every 1000 deciding to marry.

Could be why the US has the highest divorce rate in the world.

For women under 30 less than 50% who have children are married. And then we wonder why the US leads the world with its prison population. Its a 50/50 chance that a single parent will produce a criminal instead of a law abiding contributing citizen due to not having a male authority figure in the family.

More? The list goes on and on and on.....................

Could be why 56 million unborn children have been murdered in the womb since Roe v. Wade. That's more human souls lost than all the wars of history combined......in just the past few decades. State of decay.......I'd say so............

There was 3000 US Citizens that lost their lives on 9/11. Today over 3000 unborn children are killed in the womb every day.

Does it surprise anyone that the United States is in a state of moral decay?

 

[BreezeWood]

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the religious right, desert religions have been in decline since their beginning - but like locust upon the fields of plenty they redevour the innocent to maintain their unyielding grip on power they will never voluntarily relinquish.

- as their books replenish for them what history proves is their endless and unyielding corruption.

That sounds like a description of all humanity. Or do you believe there is some other group that isn't guilty of the same crimes against their brothers?

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That sounds like a description of all humanity. Or do you believe there is some other group that isn't guilty of the same crimes against their brothers?

sure, the religion of antiquity calls for the triumph of good vs evil - there should at least be a 50% chance for success - just slim pickings so far - as you too seem to imply.

 

[Crepitus]

I can't get past the NYT paywall, but as usual I found the same thing somewhere else. Great read - Sad what Trumpism has done to Evangelicals.

<few snips>

Activists imagined a glorious future. “Home-schoolers will be inordinately represented in the highest levels of leadership and power in the next generation,” Ned Ryun, a former Bush speechwriter, said at a 2005 Christian home-schooling convention. Ryun was the director of a group called Generation Joshua, which worked to get home-schooled kids into politics. The name came from the Old Testament. Moses had led the chosen people out of exile, but it was his successor, Joshua, who conquered the Holy Land.​

​

But the evangelicals who thought they were about to take over America were destined for disappointment. On Thursday, PRRI released startling new polling data showing just how much ground the religious right has lost. PRRI’s 2020 Census of American Religion, based on a survey of nearly half a million people, shows a precipitous decline in the share of the population identifying as white evangelical, from 23% in 2006 to 14.5% last year. In 2020, as in every year since 2013, the largest religious group in the United States was the religiously unaffiliated.​

​

In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.​

​

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.​

​

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.​

​

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.​

​

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”​

​

I was frightened by the religious right in its triumphant phase. But it turns out that the movement is just as dangerous in decline. Maybe more so. It didn’t take long for the cocky optimism of Generation Joshua to give way to the nihilism of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. If they can’t own the country, they’re ready to defile it.​

Full:

The Christian right is in decline

The presidency of George W. Bush may have been the high point of the modern Christian right’s influence in America. White evangelicals were the largest religious faction in the country.

www.standardspeaker.com

The ones that are left are still some rabid motherfuckers

Can we vaccinate them for rabies?

I've heard talk about a "tRump vaccine" but I don't think it's working.

 

[metalwolf]

I wonder if it is because most religions teach hate and bigotry towards Lesbian, Gay,Bisexual,Transgender people and tell them that they are going to hell.

Possibly. Any Christian that stands in judgment over the sin of others, will be made to account for their own sin. THAT is a theme that is carried through every version of the Gospel. That "good news" is consistent on the issue of forgiveness. Followers of Christ are told to carry the message of hope to all the world but we are equally told that IF we make ourselves the judge of the sin of others, we will be judged by that same standard.

You'll note a subtle difference there. It does not say we have a duty to accept the lawbreaking or have to ignore the sin we see. We have to love those who sin but we must never go so far as to love the sin itself. Put simpler, love all, but remove yourself from their company as long as they continue in their lawbreaking.
The scripture DOES teach that homosexuality is an abomination before God. It ALSO teaches that it is neither the worst sin nor that any other sin is acceptable. Gluttons, alcoholics, adulterers, liars, thieves, ALL are guilty of transgressing God's law and He makes no distinction between them in that sense.

Every human that ever took a breath of life is guilty of breaking God's laws. ALL OF US. It will surprise those who seem to hate Christians for their hypocrisy, that of all sins, the one most hated by God is the sin of pride. I have no trouble admitting that I am a man in need of a savior.

I remember some cartoon of Jesus trying to pull a Christian protestor away from a LGBT person and Jesus in it is saying "you're supposed to be a missionary of Christ, not a Mercenary of Christ"

 

[Colin norris]

Dang, your fellow cultists were just whining about the god fearing taking over the country.
Weird, maybe you dont get all the same emails

Nah they ain't taking over the country. Sadly, they morphed into something entirely unrecognizable as they felt their power dwindling. Donnie tapped into those fears, turning them into a weird and dangerous sort of Mr Hyde.

Right? Almost on par with you Maoists.

Do the Maoists have meetings an d accept money?

As a rule, Marxists have had a pattern of using cultural turmoil to rise to power and, once there, have brutally crushed all resistance to their ideology. They don't "accept" money, they take whatever they want and imprison or kill those who stand in the way. If you doubt that then I'd recommend paying attention in the days and months just ahead of us. It's an old but tried and true process they use. Very much "by the book".

You're off your face with paranoia.
You need mental attention.
The trump defeat syndrome has certainly screwed your tiny brain.
You're an idiot.

 

[SweetSue92]

I can't get past the NYT paywall, but as usual I found the same thing somewhere else. Great read - Sad what Trumpism has done to Evangelicals.

<few snips>

Activists imagined a glorious future. “Home-schoolers will be inordinately represented in the highest levels of leadership and power in the next generation,” Ned Ryun, a former Bush speechwriter, said at a 2005 Christian home-schooling convention. Ryun was the director of a group called Generation Joshua, which worked to get home-schooled kids into politics. The name came from the Old Testament. Moses had led the chosen people out of exile, but it was his successor, Joshua, who conquered the Holy Land.​

​

But the evangelicals who thought they were about to take over America were destined for disappointment. On Thursday, PRRI released startling new polling data showing just how much ground the religious right has lost. PRRI’s 2020 Census of American Religion, based on a survey of nearly half a million people, shows a precipitous decline in the share of the population identifying as white evangelical, from 23% in 2006 to 14.5% last year. In 2020, as in every year since 2013, the largest religious group in the United States was the religiously unaffiliated.​

​

In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.​

​

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.​

​

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.​

​

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.​

​

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”​

​

I was frightened by the religious right in its triumphant phase. But it turns out that the movement is just as dangerous in decline. Maybe more so. It didn’t take long for the cocky optimism of Generation Joshua to give way to the nihilism of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. If they can’t own the country, they’re ready to defile it.​

Full:

The Christian right is in decline

The presidency of George W. Bush may have been the high point of the modern Christian right’s influence in America. White evangelicals were the largest religious faction in the country.

www.standardspeaker.com

"I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"--Matthew 16:18

That's not a political statement, and has nothing to do with political power in America.

But it is the Truth.

 

[Colin norris]

I can't get past the NYT paywall, but as usual I found the same thing somewhere else. Great read - Sad what Trumpism has done to Evangelicals.

<few snips>

Activists imagined a glorious future. “Home-schoolers will be inordinately represented in the highest levels of leadership and power in the next generation,” Ned Ryun, a former Bush speechwriter, said at a 2005 Christian home-schooling convention. Ryun was the director of a group called Generation Joshua, which worked to get home-schooled kids into politics. The name came from the Old Testament. Moses had led the chosen people out of exile, but it was his successor, Joshua, who conquered the Holy Land.​

​

But the evangelicals who thought they were about to take over America were destined for disappointment. On Thursday, PRRI released startling new polling data showing just how much ground the religious right has lost. PRRI’s 2020 Census of American Religion, based on a survey of nearly half a million people, shows a precipitous decline in the share of the population identifying as white evangelical, from 23% in 2006 to 14.5% last year. In 2020, as in every year since 2013, the largest religious group in the United States was the religiously unaffiliated.​

​

In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.​

​

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.​

​

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.​

​

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.​

​

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”​

​

I was frightened by the religious right in its triumphant phase. But it turns out that the movement is just as dangerous in decline. Maybe more so. It didn’t take long for the cocky optimism of Generation Joshua to give way to the nihilism of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. If they can’t own the country, they’re ready to defile it.​

Full:

The Christian right is in decline

The presidency of George W. Bush may have been the high point of the modern Christian right’s influence in America. White evangelicals were the largest religious faction in the country.

www.standardspeaker.com

"I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"--Matthew 16:18

That's not a political statement, and has nothing to do with political power in America.

But it is the Truth.

You're a fire and brimstone girl also.
Should be good from now on.

 

[SweetSue92]

I can't get past the NYT paywall, but as usual I found the same thing somewhere else. Great read - Sad what Trumpism has done to Evangelicals.

<few snips>

Activists imagined a glorious future. “Home-schoolers will be inordinately represented in the highest levels of leadership and power in the next generation,” Ned Ryun, a former Bush speechwriter, said at a 2005 Christian home-schooling convention. Ryun was the director of a group called Generation Joshua, which worked to get home-schooled kids into politics. The name came from the Old Testament. Moses had led the chosen people out of exile, but it was his successor, Joshua, who conquered the Holy Land.​

​

But the evangelicals who thought they were about to take over America were destined for disappointment. On Thursday, PRRI released startling new polling data showing just how much ground the religious right has lost. PRRI’s 2020 Census of American Religion, based on a survey of nearly half a million people, shows a precipitous decline in the share of the population identifying as white evangelical, from 23% in 2006 to 14.5% last year. In 2020, as in every year since 2013, the largest religious group in the United States was the religiously unaffiliated.​

​

In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.​

​

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.​

​

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.​

​

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.​

​

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”​

​

I was frightened by the religious right in its triumphant phase. But it turns out that the movement is just as dangerous in decline. Maybe more so. It didn’t take long for the cocky optimism of Generation Joshua to give way to the nihilism of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. If they can’t own the country, they’re ready to defile it.​

Full:

The Christian right is in decline

The presidency of George W. Bush may have been the high point of the modern Christian right’s influence in America. White evangelicals were the largest religious faction in the country.

www.standardspeaker.com

"I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"--Matthew 16:18

That's not a political statement, and has nothing to do with political power in America.

But it is the Truth.

You're a fire and brimstone girl also.
Should be good from now on.

You're just irritating, far from any kind of a challenge. I have not seen one single intelligent post from you. Not one. Try me. Post something intelligent. Go.

 

[Colin norris]

I can't get past the NYT paywall, but as usual I found the same thing somewhere else. Great read - Sad what Trumpism has done to Evangelicals.

<few snips>

Activists imagined a glorious future. “Home-schoolers will be inordinately represented in the highest levels of leadership and power in the next generation,” Ned Ryun, a former Bush speechwriter, said at a 2005 Christian home-schooling convention. Ryun was the director of a group called Generation Joshua, which worked to get home-schooled kids into politics. The name came from the Old Testament. Moses had led the chosen people out of exile, but it was his successor, Joshua, who conquered the Holy Land.​

​

But the evangelicals who thought they were about to take over America were destined for disappointment. On Thursday, PRRI released startling new polling data showing just how much ground the religious right has lost. PRRI’s 2020 Census of American Religion, based on a survey of nearly half a million people, shows a precipitous decline in the share of the population identifying as white evangelical, from 23% in 2006 to 14.5% last year. In 2020, as in every year since 2013, the largest religious group in the United States was the religiously unaffiliated.​

​

In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.​

​

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.​

​

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.​

​

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.​

​

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”​

​

I was frightened by the religious right in its triumphant phase. But it turns out that the movement is just as dangerous in decline. Maybe more so. It didn’t take long for the cocky optimism of Generation Joshua to give way to the nihilism of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. If they can’t own the country, they’re ready to defile it.​

Full:

The Christian right is in decline

The presidency of George W. Bush may have been the high point of the modern Christian right’s influence in America. White evangelicals were the largest religious faction in the country.

www.standardspeaker.com

"I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"--Matthew 16:18

That's not a political statement, and has nothing to do with political power in America.

But it is the Truth.

You're a fire and brimstone girl also.
Should be good from now on.

You're just irritating, far from any kind of a challenge. I have not seen one single intelligent post from you. Not one. Try me. Post something intelligent. Go.

And you classify yourself as an intellectual mountain as if everything you say is correct.
Your problem is you cannot refute my post so you call the nonsensical.
Then comes the troll accusations.
The frustration builds further and you ask why am I even here.
Usually then comes an outburst of filthy language even though it is against your Christian beliefs, then condemnation to hell.

Yep. Seen it all be before.

 

[SweetSue92]

I can't get past the NYT paywall, but as usual I found the same thing somewhere else. Great read - Sad what Trumpism has done to Evangelicals.

<few snips>

Activists imagined a glorious future. “Home-schoolers will be inordinately represented in the highest levels of leadership and power in the next generation,” Ned Ryun, a former Bush speechwriter, said at a 2005 Christian home-schooling convention. Ryun was the director of a group called Generation Joshua, which worked to get home-schooled kids into politics. The name came from the Old Testament. Moses had led the chosen people out of exile, but it was his successor, Joshua, who conquered the Holy Land.​

​

But the evangelicals who thought they were about to take over America were destined for disappointment. On Thursday, PRRI released startling new polling data showing just how much ground the religious right has lost. PRRI’s 2020 Census of American Religion, based on a survey of nearly half a million people, shows a precipitous decline in the share of the population identifying as white evangelical, from 23% in 2006 to 14.5% last year. In 2020, as in every year since 2013, the largest religious group in the United States was the religiously unaffiliated.​

​

In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.​

​

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.​

​

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.​

​

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.​

​

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”​

​

I was frightened by the religious right in its triumphant phase. But it turns out that the movement is just as dangerous in decline. Maybe more so. It didn’t take long for the cocky optimism of Generation Joshua to give way to the nihilism of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. If they can’t own the country, they’re ready to defile it.​

Full:

The Christian right is in decline

The presidency of George W. Bush may have been the high point of the modern Christian right’s influence in America. White evangelicals were the largest religious faction in the country.

www.standardspeaker.com

"I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"--Matthew 16:18

That's not a political statement, and has nothing to do with political power in America.

But it is the Truth.

You're a fire and brimstone girl also.
Should be good from now on.

You're just irritating, far from any kind of a challenge. I have not seen one single intelligent post from you. Not one. Try me. Post something intelligent. Go.

And you classify yourself as an intellectual mountain as if everything you say is correct.
Your problem is you cannot refute my post so you call the nonsensical.
Then comes the troll accusations.
The frustration builds further and you ask why am I even here.
Usually then comes an outburst of filthy language even though it is against your Christian beliefs, then condemnation to hell.

Yep. Seen it all be before.

This is simple. I will make it even more simple for you.

Do you or do you not want the American military at your back?

We do not need yours. Rest assured of that.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I can't get past the NYT paywall, but as usual I found the same thing somewhere else. Great read - Sad what Trumpism has done to Evangelicals.

<few snips>

Activists imagined a glorious future. “Home-schoolers will be inordinately represented in the highest levels of leadership and power in the next generation,” Ned Ryun, a former Bush speechwriter, said at a 2005 Christian home-schooling convention. Ryun was the director of a group called Generation Joshua, which worked to get home-schooled kids into politics. The name came from the Old Testament. Moses had led the chosen people out of exile, but it was his successor, Joshua, who conquered the Holy Land.​

​

But the evangelicals who thought they were about to take over America were destined for disappointment. On Thursday, PRRI released startling new polling data showing just how much ground the religious right has lost. PRRI’s 2020 Census of American Religion, based on a survey of nearly half a million people, shows a precipitous decline in the share of the population identifying as white evangelical, from 23% in 2006 to 14.5% last year. In 2020, as in every year since 2013, the largest religious group in the United States was the religiously unaffiliated.​

​

In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.​

​

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.​

​

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.​

​

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.​

​

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”​

​

I was frightened by the religious right in its triumphant phase. But it turns out that the movement is just as dangerous in decline. Maybe more so. It didn’t take long for the cocky optimism of Generation Joshua to give way to the nihilism of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. If they can’t own the country, they’re ready to defile it.​

Full:

The Christian right is in decline

The presidency of George W. Bush may have been the high point of the modern Christian right’s influence in America. White evangelicals were the largest religious faction in the country.

www.standardspeaker.com

The ones that are left are still some rabid motherfuckers

Correct – one should never make the mistake of underestimating the Christian right; they still wield significant power and influence in the GOP and are instrumental in the implementation of laws hostile to gay and transgender Americans and laws that violate the Framers mandate that church and state remain separate.

 

[Colin norris]

I can't get past the NYT paywall, but as usual I found the same thing somewhere else. Great read - Sad what Trumpism has done to Evangelicals.

<few snips>

Activists imagined a glorious future. “Home-schoolers will be inordinately represented in the highest levels of leadership and power in the next generation,” Ned Ryun, a former Bush speechwriter, said at a 2005 Christian home-schooling convention. Ryun was the director of a group called Generation Joshua, which worked to get home-schooled kids into politics. The name came from the Old Testament. Moses had led the chosen people out of exile, but it was his successor, Joshua, who conquered the Holy Land.​

​

But the evangelicals who thought they were about to take over America were destined for disappointment. On Thursday, PRRI released startling new polling data showing just how much ground the religious right has lost. PRRI’s 2020 Census of American Religion, based on a survey of nearly half a million people, shows a precipitous decline in the share of the population identifying as white evangelical, from 23% in 2006 to 14.5% last year. In 2020, as in every year since 2013, the largest religious group in the United States was the religiously unaffiliated.​

​

In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.​

​

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.​

​

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.​

​

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.​

​

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”​

​

I was frightened by the religious right in its triumphant phase. But it turns out that the movement is just as dangerous in decline. Maybe more so. It didn’t take long for the cocky optimism of Generation Joshua to give way to the nihilism of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. If they can’t own the country, they’re ready to defile it.​

Full:

The Christian right is in decline

The presidency of George W. Bush may have been the high point of the modern Christian right’s influence in America. White evangelicals were the largest religious faction in the country.

www.standardspeaker.com

"I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"--Matthew 16:18

That's not a political statement, and has nothing to do with political power in America.

But it is the Truth.

You're a fire and brimstone girl also.
Should be good from now on.

You're just irritating, far from any kind of a challenge. I have not seen one single intelligent post from you. Not one. Try me. Post something intelligent. Go.

And you classify yourself as an intellectual mountain as if everything you say is correct.
Your problem is you cannot refute my post so you call the nonsensical.
Then comes the troll accusations.
The frustration builds further and you ask why am I even here.
Usually then comes an outburst of filthy language even though it is against your Christian beliefs, then condemnation to hell.

Yep. Seen it all be before.

This is simple. I will make it even more simple for you.

Do you or do you not want the American military at your back?

We do not need yours. Rest assured of that.

No. I do not want Americans fighting battles for other countries.
There's a history of defeat there and why do it again. You're as dumb as dogshit.
America does not rule the world.

 

[SweetSue92]

I can't get past the NYT paywall, but as usual I found the same thing somewhere else. Great read - Sad what Trumpism has done to Evangelicals.

<few snips>

Activists imagined a glorious future. “Home-schoolers will be inordinately represented in the highest levels of leadership and power in the next generation,” Ned Ryun, a former Bush speechwriter, said at a 2005 Christian home-schooling convention. Ryun was the director of a group called Generation Joshua, which worked to get home-schooled kids into politics. The name came from the Old Testament. Moses had led the chosen people out of exile, but it was his successor, Joshua, who conquered the Holy Land.​

​

But the evangelicals who thought they were about to take over America were destined for disappointment. On Thursday, PRRI released startling new polling data showing just how much ground the religious right has lost. PRRI’s 2020 Census of American Religion, based on a survey of nearly half a million people, shows a precipitous decline in the share of the population identifying as white evangelical, from 23% in 2006 to 14.5% last year. In 2020, as in every year since 2013, the largest religious group in the United States was the religiously unaffiliated.​

​

In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.​

​

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.​

​

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.​

​

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.​

​

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”​

​

I was frightened by the religious right in its triumphant phase. But it turns out that the movement is just as dangerous in decline. Maybe more so. It didn’t take long for the cocky optimism of Generation Joshua to give way to the nihilism of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. If they can’t own the country, they’re ready to defile it.​

Full:

The Christian right is in decline

The presidency of George W. Bush may have been the high point of the modern Christian right’s influence in America. White evangelicals were the largest religious faction in the country.

www.standardspeaker.com

"I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"--Matthew 16:18

That's not a political statement, and has nothing to do with political power in America.

But it is the Truth.

You're a fire and brimstone girl also.
Should be good from now on.

You're just irritating, far from any kind of a challenge. I have not seen one single intelligent post from you. Not one. Try me. Post something intelligent. Go.

And you classify yourself as an intellectual mountain as if everything you say is correct.
Your problem is you cannot refute my post so you call the nonsensical.
Then comes the troll accusations.
The frustration builds further and you ask why am I even here.
Usually then comes an outburst of filthy language even though it is against your Christian beliefs, then condemnation to hell.

Yep. Seen it all be before.

This is simple. I will make it even more simple for you.

Do you or do you not want the American military at your back?

We do not need yours. Rest assured of that.

No. I do not want Americans fighting battles for other countries.
There's a history of defeat there and why do it again. You're as dumb as dogshit.
America does not rule the world.

Excellent, then. Tell us your nation so we can be sure to write all of our politicians and tell them.

 

[Colin norris]

I can't get past the NYT paywall, but as usual I found the same thing somewhere else. Great read - Sad what Trumpism has done to Evangelicals.

<few snips>

Activists imagined a glorious future. “Home-schoolers will be inordinately represented in the highest levels of leadership and power in the next generation,” Ned Ryun, a former Bush speechwriter, said at a 2005 Christian home-schooling convention. Ryun was the director of a group called Generation Joshua, which worked to get home-schooled kids into politics. The name came from the Old Testament. Moses had led the chosen people out of exile, but it was his successor, Joshua, who conquered the Holy Land.​

​

But the evangelicals who thought they were about to take over America were destined for disappointment. On Thursday, PRRI released startling new polling data showing just how much ground the religious right has lost. PRRI’s 2020 Census of American Religion, based on a survey of nearly half a million people, shows a precipitous decline in the share of the population identifying as white evangelical, from 23% in 2006 to 14.5% last year. In 2020, as in every year since 2013, the largest religious group in the United States was the religiously unaffiliated.​

​

In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.​

​

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.​

​

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.​

​

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.​

​

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”​

​

I was frightened by the religious right in its triumphant phase. But it turns out that the movement is just as dangerous in decline. Maybe more so. It didn’t take long for the cocky optimism of Generation Joshua to give way to the nihilism of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. If they can’t own the country, they’re ready to defile it.​

Full:

The Christian right is in decline

The presidency of George W. Bush may have been the high point of the modern Christian right’s influence in America. White evangelicals were the largest religious faction in the country.

www.standardspeaker.com

"I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"--Matthew 16:18

That's not a political statement, and has nothing to do with political power in America.

But it is the Truth.

You're a fire and brimstone girl also.
Should be good from now on.

You're just irritating, far from any kind of a challenge. I have not seen one single intelligent post from you. Not one. Try me. Post something intelligent. Go.

And you classify yourself as an intellectual mountain as if everything you say is correct.
Your problem is you cannot refute my post so you call the nonsensical.
Then comes the troll accusations.
The frustration builds further and you ask why am I even here.
Usually then comes an outburst of filthy language even though it is against your Christian beliefs, then condemnation to hell.

Yep. Seen it all be before.

This is simple. I will make it even more simple for you.

Do you or do you not want the American military at your back?

We do not need yours. Rest assured of that.

No. I do not want Americans fighting battles for other countries.
There's a history of defeat there and why do it again. You're as dumb as dogshit.
America does not rule the world.

Excellent, then. Tell us your nation so we can be sure to write all of our politicians and tell them.

Stop being childish. That's a pathetically juvenile argument and is normal for a right wing republican godbotherer .

I live in America dickhead. The problem is you don't know where. If you did, what difference would it make, would it change my opinion, would it change yours of me? Of course not. It's just irritates you that you have nothing to spit venom at.

 

[SweetSue92]

I can't get past the NYT paywall, but as usual I found the same thing somewhere else. Great read - Sad what Trumpism has done to Evangelicals.

<few snips>

Activists imagined a glorious future. “Home-schoolers will be inordinately represented in the highest levels of leadership and power in the next generation,” Ned Ryun, a former Bush speechwriter, said at a 2005 Christian home-schooling convention. Ryun was the director of a group called Generation Joshua, which worked to get home-schooled kids into politics. The name came from the Old Testament. Moses had led the chosen people out of exile, but it was his successor, Joshua, who conquered the Holy Land.​

​

But the evangelicals who thought they were about to take over America were destined for disappointment. On Thursday, PRRI released startling new polling data showing just how much ground the religious right has lost. PRRI’s 2020 Census of American Religion, based on a survey of nearly half a million people, shows a precipitous decline in the share of the population identifying as white evangelical, from 23% in 2006 to 14.5% last year. In 2020, as in every year since 2013, the largest religious group in the United States was the religiously unaffiliated.​

​

In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.​

​

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.​

​

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.​

​

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.​

​

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”​

​

I was frightened by the religious right in its triumphant phase. But it turns out that the movement is just as dangerous in decline. Maybe more so. It didn’t take long for the cocky optimism of Generation Joshua to give way to the nihilism of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. If they can’t own the country, they’re ready to defile it.​

Full:

The Christian right is in decline

The presidency of George W. Bush may have been the high point of the modern Christian right’s influence in America. White evangelicals were the largest religious faction in the country.

www.standardspeaker.com

"I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"--Matthew 16:18

That's not a political statement, and has nothing to do with political power in America.

But it is the Truth.

You're a fire and brimstone girl also.
Should be good from now on.

You're just irritating, far from any kind of a challenge. I have not seen one single intelligent post from you. Not one. Try me. Post something intelligent. Go.

And you classify yourself as an intellectual mountain as if everything you say is correct.
Your problem is you cannot refute my post so you call the nonsensical.
Then comes the troll accusations.
The frustration builds further and you ask why am I even here.
Usually then comes an outburst of filthy language even though it is against your Christian beliefs, then condemnation to hell.

Yep. Seen it all be before.

This is simple. I will make it even more simple for you.

Do you or do you not want the American military at your back?

We do not need yours. Rest assured of that.

No. I do not want Americans fighting battles for other countries.
There's a history of defeat there and why do it again. You're as dumb as dogshit.
America does not rule the world.

Excellent, then. Tell us your nation so we can be sure to write all of our politicians and tell them.

Stop being childish. That's a pathetically juvenile argument and is normal for a right wing republican godbotherer .

I live in America dickhead. The problem is you don't know where. If you did, what difference would it make, would it change my opinion, would it change yours of me? Of course not. It's just irritates you that you have nothing to spit venom at.

Okay. Well, the entire argument thread stands, whether you "live" in America or not. Too many foreign haters flood American message boards etc and never give a thought to the hand that feeds them. Many of us are in no frame of mind to feed anymore. That's all.

 

[Colin norris]

I can't get past the NYT paywall, but as usual I found the same thing somewhere else. Great read - Sad what Trumpism has done to Evangelicals.

<few snips>

Activists imagined a glorious future. “Home-schoolers will be inordinately represented in the highest levels of leadership and power in the next generation,” Ned Ryun, a former Bush speechwriter, said at a 2005 Christian home-schooling convention. Ryun was the director of a group called Generation Joshua, which worked to get home-schooled kids into politics. The name came from the Old Testament. Moses had led the chosen people out of exile, but it was his successor, Joshua, who conquered the Holy Land.​

​

But the evangelicals who thought they were about to take over America were destined for disappointment. On Thursday, PRRI released startling new polling data showing just how much ground the religious right has lost. PRRI’s 2020 Census of American Religion, based on a survey of nearly half a million people, shows a precipitous decline in the share of the population identifying as white evangelical, from 23% in 2006 to 14.5% last year. In 2020, as in every year since 2013, the largest religious group in the United States was the religiously unaffiliated.​

​

In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.​

​

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.​

​

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.​

​

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.​

​

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”​

​

I was frightened by the religious right in its triumphant phase. But it turns out that the movement is just as dangerous in decline. Maybe more so. It didn’t take long for the cocky optimism of Generation Joshua to give way to the nihilism of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. If they can’t own the country, they’re ready to defile it.​

Full:

The Christian right is in decline

The presidency of George W. Bush may have been the high point of the modern Christian right’s influence in America. White evangelicals were the largest religious faction in the country.

www.standardspeaker.com

"I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"--Matthew 16:18

That's not a political statement, and has nothing to do with political power in America.

But it is the Truth.

You're a fire and brimstone girl also.
Should be good from now on.

You're just irritating, far from any kind of a challenge. I have not seen one single intelligent post from you. Not one. Try me. Post something intelligent. Go.

And you classify yourself as an intellectual mountain as if everything you say is correct.
Your problem is you cannot refute my post so you call the nonsensical.
Then comes the troll accusations.
The frustration builds further and you ask why am I even here.
Usually then comes an outburst of filthy language even though it is against your Christian beliefs, then condemnation to hell.

Yep. Seen it all be before.

This is simple. I will make it even more simple for you.

Do you or do you not want the American military at your back?

We do not need yours. Rest assured of that.

No. I do not want Americans fighting battles for other countries.
There's a history of defeat there and why do it again. You're as dumb as dogshit.
America does not rule the world.

Excellent, then. Tell us your nation so we can be sure to write all of our politicians and tell them.

Stop being childish. That's a pathetically juvenile argument and is normal for a right wing republican godbotherer .

I live in America dickhead. The problem is you don't know where. If you did, what difference would it make, would it change my opinion, would it change yours of me? Of course not. It's just irritates you that you have nothing to spit venom at.

Okay. Well, the entire argument thread stands, whether you "live" in America or not. Too many foreign haters flood American message boards etc and never give a thought to the hand that feeds them. Many of us are in no frame of mind to feed anymore. That's all.

The hand that feeds me? You must be kidding. Like we've fed the blacks and the poor? Like we let people die in the streets because if no government health care? Like suffering a brain dead competent buffoon like trump that caused hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths?
Is that the hand you speak of?

I'd leave to. You beaten now.

 

[Colin norris]

I can't get past the NYT paywall, but as usual I found the same thing somewhere else. Great read - Sad what Trumpism has done to Evangelicals.

<few snips>

Activists imagined a glorious future. “Home-schoolers will be inordinately represented in the highest levels of leadership and power in the next generation,” Ned Ryun, a former Bush speechwriter, said at a 2005 Christian home-schooling convention. Ryun was the director of a group called Generation Joshua, which worked to get home-schooled kids into politics. The name came from the Old Testament. Moses had led the chosen people out of exile, but it was his successor, Joshua, who conquered the Holy Land.​

​

But the evangelicals who thought they were about to take over America were destined for disappointment. On Thursday, PRRI released startling new polling data showing just how much ground the religious right has lost. PRRI’s 2020 Census of American Religion, based on a survey of nearly half a million people, shows a precipitous decline in the share of the population identifying as white evangelical, from 23% in 2006 to 14.5% last year. In 2020, as in every year since 2013, the largest religious group in the United States was the religiously unaffiliated.​

​

In addition to shrinking as a share of the population, white evangelicals were also the oldest religious group in the United States, with a median age of 56. “It’s not just that they are dying off, but it is that they’re losing younger members,” Jones told me. As the group has become older and smaller, Jones said, “a real visceral sense of loss of cultural dominance” has set in.​

​

White evangelicals once saw themselves “as the owners of mainstream American culture and morality and values,” said Jones. Now they are just another subculture.​

​

From this fact derives much of our country’s cultural conflict. It helps explain not just the rise of Donald Trump, but also the growth of QAnon and even the escalating conflagration over critical race theory. “It’s hard to overstate the strength of this feeling, among white evangelicals in particular, of America being a white Christian country,” said Jones. “This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles.” The feeling that it’s slipping away has created an atmosphere of rage, resentment and paranoia.​

​

QAnon is essentially a millenarian movement, with Trump taking the place of Jesus. Adherents dream of the coming of what they call the storm, when the enemies of the MAGA movement will be rounded up and executed, and Trump restored to his rightful place of leadership.​

​

“It’s not unlike a belief in the second coming of Christ,” said Jones. “That at some point God will reorder society and set things right. I think that when a community feels itself in crisis, it does become more susceptible to conspiracy theories and other things that tell them that what they’re experiencing is not ultimately what’s going to happen.”​

​

I was frightened by the religious right in its triumphant phase. But it turns out that the movement is just as dangerous in decline. Maybe more so. It didn’t take long for the cocky optimism of Generation Joshua to give way to the nihilism of the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. If they can’t own the country, they’re ready to defile it.​

Full:

The Christian right is in decline

The presidency of George W. Bush may have been the high point of the modern Christian right’s influence in America. White evangelicals were the largest religious faction in the country.

www.standardspeaker.com

"I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"--Matthew 16:18

That's not a political statement, and has nothing to do with political power in America.

But it is the Truth.

You're a fire and brimstone girl also.
Should be good from now on.

You're just irritating, far from any kind of a challenge. I have not seen one single intelligent post from you. Not one. Try me. Post something intelligent. Go.

And you classify yourself as an intellectual mountain as if everything you say is correct.
Your problem is you cannot refute my post so you call the nonsensical.
Then comes the troll accusations.
The frustration builds further and you ask why am I even here.
Usually then comes an outburst of filthy language even though it is against your Christian beliefs, then condemnation to hell.

Yep. Seen it all be before.

This is simple. I will make it even more simple for you.

Do you or do you not want the American military at your back?

We do not need yours. Rest assured of that.

No. I do not want Americans fighting battles for other countries.
There's a history of defeat there and why do it again. You're as dumb as dogshit.
America does not rule the world.

Excellent, then. Tell us your nation so we can be sure to write all of our politicians and tell them.

Stop being childish. That's a pathetically juvenile argument and is normal for a right wing republican godbotherer .

I live in America dickhead. The problem is you don't know where. If you did, what difference would it make, would it change my opinion, would it change yours of me? Of course not. It's just irritates you that you have nothing to spit venom at.

Okay. Well, the entire argument thread stands, whether you "live" in America or not. Too many foreign haters flood American message boards etc and never give a thought to the hand that feeds them. Many of us are in no frame of mind to feed anymore. That's all.

The hand that feeds me? You must be kidding. Like we've fed the blacks and the poor? Like we let people die in the streets because if no government health care? Like suffering a brain dead competent buffoon like trump that caused hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths?
Is that the hand you speak of?

I'd leave to. You beaten now.

I don't care how you disagree. You godbotherers all collapse under pressure.
You no different. No guts.