Zone1 The Christian Random Thread

[buttercup]

Since this is the random thread...I like this song.

 

[Meriweather]

For those who enjoy Christian music, I've loved this song since it was introduced to me over ten years now. It is the Revelation Song IBC (Indiana Bible College)

 

[Woodznutz]

I think human beings are the ones who provide (and like) comfort zones, not God, haha. It's never fun to step outside of a comfort zone, but if God is orchestrating it, it's worth it because that's where breakthrough happens... know what I mean?

I've only one more breakthrough to do...retirement.

 

[ding]

I've only one more breakthrough to do...retirement.

Retirement is awesome.

 

[Natural Citizen]

''Hidden for centuries, a forgotten chapter of the Bible has emerged from the shadows of history. Researchers, armed with ultraviolet light and meticulous scholarship, have uncovered a 1,750-year-old text that offers a fresh glimpse into the evolving nature of scripture. This find isn’t just a historical curiosity; it’s a profound insight into how faith and tradition were shaped in early Christianity.

The newly unveiled chapter offers an expanded version of Matthew 12, a passage where Jesus and his disciples are criticized for picking grain on the Sabbath. In this version, subtle textual variations bring fresh theological nuances to light, emphasizing compassion and mercy over rigid observance of religious laws. While the core message aligns with established teachings, these differences hint at the dynamic and adaptive nature of early Christian scripture.

Written in ancient Syriac, one of the earliest used languages used to transmit biblical texts, the chapter provides a rare glimpse into Christianity’s early cultural diversity. Syriac was instrumental in spreading scripture beyond its Jewish origins, tailoring messages to resonate with varied linguistic and cultural communities. This adaptation reflects the pragmatic approach of early Christians, who shaped their sacred texts to meet the needs of a rapidly growing faith.

What’s particularly striking is the role of early scribes. Far from being passive transcribers, they actively engaged with the material, reinterpreting and preserving it in ways that reflected their own spiritual and societal realities. This hidden chapter, with its emphasis on mercy, reveals a faith not rigidly bound to dogma but alive with reinterpretation and evolution—a window into the beliefs and priorities of communities navigating the complexities of their time'

This hidden chapter of the Bible has sparked lively debates among scholars. Many see it as a fascinating window into how early Christian communities understood and adapted scripture. The chapter’s emphasis on mercy over strict adherence to religious laws aligns with Jesus’ teachings but adds a fresh perspective to familiar passages. This nuance suggests early Christians may have tailored scripture to address the unique challenges of their time.''

Continued - A New Chapter Of The Bible Was Found Hidden Inside 1,750-Year-Old Text

 

[zaangalewa]

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A bad advice. Trust in the power of love and reason. Follow your hearts - everyone. For sure do not follow "gods" like Donald - ¿the Jesus? - Trump. Donald Trump is no Christian - never had been.

„Gott aber, hat man ihn überhaupt, so hat man ihn allerorten; auf der Straße und unter den Leuten so gut wie in der Kirche oder in der Einöde oder in der Zelle...“
Meister Eckhart
“But if you have God at all, you have him everywhere; on the street and among the people as well as in the church or in the wasteland or in the cell...”

Pope Francis on his way to open the Holy Door in a prison.

 

[buttercup]

''Hidden for centuries, a forgotten chapter of the Bible has emerged from the shadows of history. Researchers, armed with ultraviolet light and meticulous scholarship, have uncovered a 1,750-year-old text that offers a fresh glimpse into the evolving nature of scripture. This find isn’t just a historical curiosity; it’s a profound insight into how faith and tradition were shaped in early Christianity.

The newly unveiled chapter offers an expanded version of Matthew 12, a passage where Jesus and his disciples are criticized for picking grain on the Sabbath. In this version, subtle textual variations bring fresh theological nuances to light, emphasizing compassion and mercy over rigid observance of religious laws. While the core message aligns with established teachings, these differences hint at the dynamic and adaptive nature of early Christian scripture.

Written in ancient Syriac, one of the earliest used languages used to transmit biblical texts, the chapter provides a rare glimpse into Christianity’s early cultural diversity. Syriac was instrumental in spreading scripture beyond its Jewish origins, tailoring messages to resonate with varied linguistic and cultural communities. This adaptation reflects the pragmatic approach of early Christians, who shaped their sacred texts to meet the needs of a rapidly growing faith.

What’s particularly striking is the role of early scribes. Far from being passive transcribers, they actively engaged with the material, reinterpreting and preserving it in ways that reflected their own spiritual and societal realities. This hidden chapter, with its emphasis on mercy, reveals a faith not rigidly bound to dogma but alive with reinterpretation and evolution—a window into the beliefs and priorities of communities navigating the complexities of their time'

This hidden chapter of the Bible has sparked lively debates among scholars. Many see it as a fascinating window into how early Christian communities understood and adapted scripture. The chapter’s emphasis on mercy over strict adherence to religious laws aligns with Jesus’ teachings but adds a fresh perspective to familiar passages. This nuance suggests early Christians may have tailored scripture to address the unique challenges of their time.''

Continued - A New Chapter Of The Bible Was Found Hidden Inside 1,750-Year-Old Text

Oh wow....very cool! What I find especially interesting is the emphasis on mercy, which (as you know) is what I've been speaking about through my live mercifully ministry. So I absolutely love hearing stuff like that, and the mercy part totally rings true. Although I would like to look into the whole thing further.

Thanks for posting that! Btw this reminds me of the film Christspiracy. I know you're not a vegan but IF you ever want to watch an interesting and eye-opening documentary, you should watch Christspiracy. I'm pretty sure you can watch it for free on the Christspiracy website. I saw it when it first came out, in the theater (it was only on the big screen for 2 days, I think) but it's been a while so I might watch it again.

Thanks again for that, I always love stuff to do with biblical archeology. ETA: I just looked up the language Syriac, and I read that some portions of the NT may have originally been written in Syriac before being translated to Greek which is interesting but I want to look into that more.

 

[BreezeWood]

The chapter’s emphasis on mercy over strict adherence to religious laws aligns with Jesus’ teachings ...

jesus taught liberation theology, self determination repudiating the false commandments of moses as also a repudiation of judaism and the hereditary idolatry, religion of apartheid - madeup by abraham.

a passage where Jesus and his disciples are criticized for picking grain on the Sabbath.

the sabbath is what the heavens claimed for their creation and life when it was completed, garden earth - to keep holy their sabbath ...

for which all three desert religions are miserable failures. the example made by jesus is in the context of the true sabbath their garden they were relaying - to keep holy. (not a day off from work)

is the correct interpretation of the 1st century event if those scribes really knew what they were writing, heavenly inspired and were not the same crucifiers that wrote the christian bible.

 

[buttercup]

 

[SweetSue92]

I love this meme so much. Dare I say Jesus might laugh at it too?

 

[buttercup]

I've never really been into country music, but Anne Wilson has some gud songs....

 

[buttercup]

I know this is supposed to be a fun and more lighthearted thread, as opposed to a typical debate thread. But I'm not posting this to get into any debates. Especially not with any non-Christians who just want to fight or troll because of their extreme loyalty to Trump.

I'm posting this because I truly believe that a lot of the things happening in the world right now are part of biblical prophecy. And a lot of Christian accounts I follow on social media have been posting about recent events, like Trump's Gaza video he posted on his Truth Social the other day. So I wanted to post what they're saying, because they're looking at these things from a spiritual / biblical perspective.

I was going to share a few of them... but I changed my mind, I'll just share one. This one is more controversial than the other ones, and I'm sure the guy in this video will sound crazy to nonbelievers and maybe even to some christians. I don't necessarily agree with everything he says, but he does bring up some very good points, one of them being that many Christians have fallen into the sin of idolatry.

 

[BreezeWood]

I know this is supposed to be a fun and more lighthearted thread, as opposed to a typical debate thread. But I'm not posting this to get into any debates. Especially not with any non-Christians who just want to fight or troll because of their extreme loyalty to Trump.

4th century christianity throughout history has been the source of idolatry for all not included in the teachings of jesus, those that gave their lives in the 1st century for liberation theology, self determination as the prophetic occurrence for its origin proves itself again presently with its new chosen idol.

 

[buttercup]

Ha, this guy said exactly what I said earlier today about it all being a show, and like WWE wrestling. Well, a lot of people said that, in different ways. But anyway, I'm putting this here on this thread since it doesn't really fit anywhere else....

 

[buttercup]

Crazy times we're living in. All the military action going on in the M.E seems to be leading up to what the US has wanted for a very long time...war with Iran, as you can see in this video and in the General Clark clip in the video below.

I wasn't planning to take my own thread sort of off topic... but then again this IS a random thread, and I wasn't sure where else to put this. Since it has a Christian message, it wouldn't fit on political threads.

Anyway, alhough I may not agree with 100% of what's stated in this vid, I think this is worth watching:

 

[luiza]

Nice to see our merry band of Cultists enjoying a near last time of community singing and praise .

It will be interesting to watch and see how you cope with the Disclosure of extra terrestrials existing and coming among us, who are both technologically and spiritually light years ahead of us as a species .

Perhaps you will follow earlier traditions, change the narrative and have a whole group of Gods all based on one mountain out in deep space , run by a Zeus type character who has such a difficult time dealing with his fellow Gods and Goddesses, and next to no time for the odd little two legged experimental things who live "off mountain" on a remote small planet in a small spiral galaxy .

My guess is that it will lead to Council of Nicea 2.0 where you throw out the old scripts and copy paste in the new ones, but still be no wiser .

Boo. Hiss . Rubbish .

Wir Werden Sehen .

 

[buttercup]

Nice to see our merry band of Cultists enjoying a near last time of community singing and praise .

It will be interesting to watch and see how you cope with the Disclosure of extra terrestrials existing and coming among us, who are both technologically and spiritually light years ahead of us as a species .

Perhaps you will follow earlier traditions, change the narrative and have a whole group of Gods all based on one mountain out in deep space , run by a Zeus type character who has such a difficult time dealing with his fellow Gods and Goddesses, and next to no time for the odd little two legged experimental things who live "off mountain" on a remote small planet in a small spiral galaxy .

My guess is that it will lead to Council of Nicea 2.0 where you throw out the old scripts and copy paste in the new ones, but still be no wiser .

Boo. Hiss . Rubbish .

Wir Werden Sehen .

You bring up an interesting topic, and I might want to get into it in more depth another time... (I have to sign off here soon, it's dinner time)

But for now I'll say this. I simply have a different view on ETs. In the past I probably would have agreed with you. But now there is ZERO doubt in my mind that what people call "aliens" or "extra-terrestrials" are in reality, inter-dimensional spiritual beings... AKA demons.

I've posted these quotes before, but I'll post them again. These quotes are from SECULAR (non-Christian) researchers, some of them well-known and respected in their field. These quotes are examples of researchers who used to believe these beings are extra-terrestrial, but now, after years of research, have concluded they are inter-dimensional. Which of course goes along with what I was saying, about these 'aliens' being demons. Who, btw, I believe have purposely led people to believe they're from other planets. And it's what the government wants us to believe too.

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"We are dealing with a yet unrecognized level of consciousness, independent of man but closely linked to the earth.... I do not believe anymore that UFOs are simply the spacecraft of some race of extraterrestrial visitors. This notion is too simplistic to explain their appearance, the frequency of their manifestations through recorded history, and the structure of the information exchanged with them during contact."​

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- Jacques Vallée​

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“The conclusion I’ve come to after all these years is that first of all, the subject is much more complex than any of us imagined. It has paranormal aspects but certainly it has very real physical aspects, too.” “[The extraterrestrial] theory runs up against a very big difficulty, namely, that we are seeing too many UFOs. The Earth is only a spot of dust in the Universe. Why should it be honored with so many visits? … I am more inclined to think in terms of something metaphysical, a sort of parallel reality.”​

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- Dr. J. Allen Hynek​

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“It’s both literally, physically happening to a degree; and it’s also some kind of psychological, spiritual experience occurring and originating perhaps in another dimension.”​

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- John E. Mack, M.D​

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"A large part of the available UFO literature is closely linked with mysticism and the metaphysical. It deals with subjects like mental telepathy, automatic writing and invisible entities as well as phenomena like poltergeist [ghost] manifestations and 'possession.' Many of the UFO reports now being published in the popular press recount alleged incidents that are strikingly similar to demonic possession and psychic phenomena...."​

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- Lynn E. Catoe​

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“I [have] watched in dismay as a number of respected UFO researchers moved from a physical to a parapsychological interpretation of the bizarre UFO phenomenon….now I [too] am being forced to reexamine the UFO phenomenon in light of its apparent paraphysical nature.”​

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- Raymond E. Fowler, “The Watchers: The Secret Design Behind UFO Abduction;” (New York: Bantam 1991) pp. xv, 183​

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“The ‘medical examination’ to which abductees are said to be subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscent of the medieval tales of encounters with demons. It makes no sense in a sophisticated or technical or biological framework: any intelligent being equipped with the scientific marvels that UFOs possess would be in a position to achieve any of these alleged scientific objectives in shorter time with fewer risks”​

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- Jacques Vallée, Confrontations - A Scientist's Search for Alien Contact; pg. 13​

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"We are dealing with a multidimensional paraphysical phenomenon which is largely indigenous to planet earth."​

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- Brad Steiger​

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"The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon..."​

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- John A. Keel, UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse, p. 299​

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"There seems to be no evidence yet that any of these craft or beings originate from outer space."​

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-Gordon Creighton, Official 1992 Flying Saucer Review Policy Statement​

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"One theory which can no longer be taken very seriously is that UFOs are interstellar spaceships."​

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-Arthur C. Clarke, New York Times Book Review, 27 July, 1975​

 

[buttercup]

A different perspective on what's going on with the tariffs. I think it's too soon to know if this take is true. But this is what many of the Christian accounts I follow on different platforms have been saying....




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[buttercup]

- are there any christians still living in west texas ... to even have a perspective.



another christian initiative everyone is so excited about - gov't imposed measles vaccinations for school children. the christian coalition hates them. buttercup to the rescue to insure their religious freedom.

I made it clear in post #34 that these recent posts weren't posted to get into debates. Especially not with anti-christians or trolls. But you've posted 5 times already with your usual one-trick pony trolling and baiting. That's why I haven't responded to you at all until now.

Please pick one of the many thousands of other threads in this section if all you want to do is your usual thing. I'm sure someone will be willing to argue with you. Thank you in advance.

 

[buttercup]

I can relate to this song right now. I'm going to take a little break from here. I need to put good things in my mind... like it says in Philippians 4:8. I'll most likely be back in a few days.