The Bosnian Failure

[Adam's Apple]

Just a preview of how Clinton's conduct of foreign affairs got desired results.

Leaping Before We Looked: The Clinton Administration's Bosnian Failure
by Marvin Olasky, Human Events
10/18/2007

Many of the Bosnian jihadists -- including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the al-Qaida planner of Sept. 11 -- went on to attack Western Europe or the U.S.

Bosnia itself "has continued its seemingly relentless slide into crime, corruption and extremism. Radical Islam has a stronger hold there than ever before, and it remains a mystery to me why Western governments continue to not give this problem, in the heart of Europe, the attention it deserves."

for full article:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=22912#continueA

 

[doniston]

Just a preview of how Clinton's conduct of foreign affairs got desired results.

Leaping Before We Looked: The Clinton Administration's Bosnian Failure
by Marvin Olasky, Human Events
10/18/2007

Many of the Bosnian jihadists -- including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the al-Qaida planner of Sept. 11 -- went on to attack Western Europe or the U.S.

Bosnia itself "has continued its seemingly relentless slide into crime, corruption and extremism. Radical Islam has a stronger hold there than ever before, and it remains a mystery to me why Western governments continue to not give this problem, in the heart of Europe, the attention it deserves."

for full article:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=22912#continueA

do you suppose itr is possible that you too are being misled? It would appear to me that it is only the author's opinion.

 

[Adam's Apple]

No, I do not think I’ve been misled or that this article is merely Olasky’s opinion. There have been too many other articles written and printed in the past few years that reflect this same message. One columnist with an ethnic connection to the area has reported almost daily in her column what is going on in the former Yugoslavia. One cannot help but draw the conclusion that the U.S. and Europe definitely supported the wrong side.

If you have any recent articles reporting how successful the Dayton Agreement has been, please feel free to post them.

 

[rOckNrOllsCar11]

While you cut down Slick Willy for putting a stop to the genocide there, ask yourself what sort of articles will be written 10 yrs from now about Iraq. That being of course if the world hasn't nuked one another by then.

 

[razorskater135]

No, I do not think I’ve been misled or that this article is merely Olasky’s opinion. There have been too many other articles written and printed in the past few years that reflect this same message. One columnist with an ethnic connection to the area has reported almost daily in her column what is going on in the former Yugoslavia. One cannot help but draw the conclusion that the U.S. and Europe definitely supported the wrong side.

If you have any recent articles reporting how successful the Dayton Agreement has been, please feel free to post them.

When the split happened, the army generals and army were mostly Serbian. Before the fighting started they pulled out of ethnically Bosnian areas. Bosnia itself had a limited army. U.S. and Europe and UN were helping the right side. Serbians were slaughtering Bosnians, raping and impregnating women to "ethnically clean" them. What happen was since Bosnia had a muslim population, Mudjahedeen came from countries like Morocco, Iran, Saudi Arabia. They also came to Bosnia's aid like the United Nations and UN did. The problem was they saw it as a way to set up an Islamic state in Europe. Many of them stayed on after the war and changed their names to more Bosnian names instead of obvious names of Arabic origin.

And Khalid Sheikh Mohammed can't really be refered to as a Bosnian jihadist either.

 

[ekrem]

When the split happened, the army generals and army were mostly Serbian. Before the fighting started they pulled out of ethnically Bosnian areas. Bosnia itself had a limited army. U.S. and Europe and UN were helping the right side. Serbians were slaughtering Bosnians, raping and impregnating women to "ethnically clean" them. What happen was since Bosnia had a muslim population, Mudjahedeen came from countries like Morocco, Iran, Saudi Arabia. They also came to Bosnia's aid like the United Nations and UN did. The problem was they saw it as a way to set up an Islamic state in Europe. Many of them stayed on after the war and changed their names to more Bosnian names instead of obvious names of Arabic origin.

And Khalid Sheikh Mohammed can't really be refered to as a Bosnian jihadist either.

So it is.
These are pictures token from Muslim Bosnians who were concentrated in Concentration Camps. These pictures speak for themselves and happenings like Srebrenica and newly found mass graves give a picture of what was going on in that time:

http://www.zamislisrbiju.org/foto/idc_foto_03/images/Bosna-logor Manjaca 92.jpg
http://www.bosnjacki-topraci.com/Trnopolje.jpg
http://www.zamislisrbiju.org/foto/Bosna-logor Trnopolje92.jpg

I always read in some parts of US media these kind of stories and must ask where these people got their facts.
For example, what are the numbers of "Arabian" fighters in Bosnia still residing there, which direction of Islam is being supported by the state.
Bosnia is one of the most moderate countries with muslim majority citizens.
Re-Islamization is nothing bad. It is important, in which direction Re-Islamization puts the society and where this motive of Re-Islamization does come from (external factor). And here again a country like Bosnia can not be compared to other countries. Muslim people in Europe have an unique history seperated from what is going on from Mid-East cultures. These people were never ruled by for example Arabs or Persians.

Facts are, that under Dayton-Agreement within 30 days all foreign fighters had to leave the country. This happened, but some fighters gained Bosnian passport and remained.
Bosnia is currently canceling citizenship to these people and expels them. Therefore was set-up a parliamentary commission overviewing all citizenships from 1992-2006.
The number of these people is very limted.
People who try to impose Islam standards which is an extreme interpretation of Koran are isolated in the country.

The highest body of Islam in Bosnia is publishing resolutions that those who do not wish to understand Islam as practiced in Bosnia have no business there.
Today two academic degrees are required to practice as an Imam in Bosnia. Confirmation from an Islamic faculty is not enough on its own; a diploma from a Bosnian madrasa (religious secondary school) is also required. This is intended to limit the influence of foreign preachers.

Neue ZÜRICHer Zeitung
via
http://www.qantara.de/webcom/show_article.php/_c-476/_nr-847/i.html

So it is. Official Islam in Bosnia is not connected to any foreign influence.
Islam is finding itself in Bosnia back to the roots of relevant geography and thinkers. Through this process it is an natural re-orientation to Turkey.
We are present there with ethnic-ties, KFOR, common history, universities, schools, money for restauration, financial help and true state-sponsored fiendship between both communities.

Arab jihadists is marginal problem and not that picture, what it is all about in Bosnia.

 

[actsnoblemartin]

exactly

Just a preview of how Clinton's conduct of foreign affairs got desired results.

Leaping Before We Looked: The Clinton Administration's Bosnian Failure
by Marvin Olasky, Human Events
10/18/2007

Many of the Bosnian jihadists -- including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the al-Qaida planner of Sept. 11 -- went on to attack Western Europe or the U.S.

Bosnia itself "has continued its seemingly relentless slide into crime, corruption and extremism. Radical Islam has a stronger hold there than ever before, and it remains a mystery to me why Western governments continue to not give this problem, in the heart of Europe, the attention it deserves."

for full article:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=22912#continueA

 

[Militants]

I will a militia of Bosnia's armies.

Bosnia and Herzegovina Military Strength

This strenght I want's.