The Big Lie about "Green" Energy

[DGS49]

Trump's UN speech reveals inconvenient truth of massive green energy costs

Countries with the highest renewable energy investments also have the most expensive electricity due to costly backup power requirements for solar and wind.

www.foxnews.com

Wind and solar require a backup source. "Green" energy is only cheap when you ignore the required backup. Once it is included, the lie is exposed. The countries with the most aggressive "green" agendas have the highest electricity costs.

 

[1srelluc]

Thanks, glad to see water is still wet.

 

[Dorian Mode]

I think a lot of this green energy push was to stop the immense power that the oil companies have and their preferred support for republicans and the right across the world. The left's insistence on demonizing petroleum while worshipping green energy polarized half the world to not adopt green energy and view it as a scam. The truth is we need more alternative energy sources, but if adopting them means supporting the global left, then it won't happen. This is just another case where the left really should have worked WITH the right to get something good done, and done right. Instead they made it another battleground for political purposes. They shot themselves in the foot yet another time.

 

[Moonglow]

Trump's UN speech reveals inconvenient truth of massive green energy costs

Countries with the highest renewable energy investments also have the most expensive electricity due to costly backup power requirements for solar and wind.

www.foxnews.com

Wind and solar require a backup source. "Green" energy is only cheap when you ignore the required backup. Once it is included, the lie is exposed. The countries with the most aggressive "green" agendas have the highest electricity costs.

Our electric rates are also increasing.

 

[Moonglow]

I think a lot of this green energy push was to stop the immense power that the oil companies have and their preferred support for republicans and the right across the world. The left's insistence on demonizing petroleum while worshipping green energy polarized half the world to not adopt green energy and view it as a scam. The truth is we need more alternative energy sources, but if adopting them means supporting the global left, then it won't happen. This is just another case where the left really should have worked WITH the right to get something good done, and done right. Instead they made it another battleground for political purposes. They shot themselves in the foot yet another time.

The Energy Policy Act of 2005 (Public Law 109-58) is a statute which was passed by the United States Congress on July 29, 2005 and signed into law on August 8, 2005. The Act provides tax incentives and loan guarantees for energy production of various types.

Energy Policy Act of 2005 (Energy Bill) – Policies - IEA​

 

[Moonglow]

Thanks, glad to see water is still wet.

Not if it is ice.

 

[Hafar1014]

Our electric rates are also increasing.

Renewable energy increases costs and we are still in the Biden energy policies

 

[MisterBeale]

I think a lot of this green energy push was to stop the immense power that the oil companies have and their preferred support for republicans and the right across the world. The left's insistence on demonizing petroleum while worshipping green energy polarized half the world to not adopt green energy and view it as a scam. The truth is we need more alternative energy sources, but if adopting them means supporting the global left, then it won't happen. This is just another case where the left really should have worked WITH the right to get something good done, and done right. Instead they made it another battleground for political purposes. They shot themselves in the foot yet another time.

On the surface, this would seem to be the agenda, but it is far deeper and more sinister.

Gasoline permits ICE engines, and ICE engines allow freedom of movement.

Electric cars can be controlled.

The eventual agenda is to control all movement, speech, thinking and consumption.

Green taxes, digital IDs, and social credit regimes are all policies moving toward the total panopticon control grid.


Establishment republicans were on board with these types of things as well. IT is the populist resistance to these sort of schemes which has drove the establishment nutty.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Energy Policy Act of 2005 (Public Law 109-58) is a statute which was passed by the United States Congress on July 29, 2005 and signed into law on August 8, 2005. The Act provides tax incentives and loan guarantees for energy production of various types.

Energy Policy Act of 2005 (Energy Bill) – Policies - IEA​

Yeah, lots of stupid laws that are wasting billions of dollars and making things worse.

 

[trevorjohnson83]

Sometimes, actually, green technology just means like a furnace that uses the fuel more efficiently than an old model, this is also green technology. A lawn mowing robot is green technology.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

These clowns thought they had it all figured out back then. We would build a lot of wind turbines and install a lot of photovoltaic panels and make up the difference with Russian natural gas. It would be cheap, it would keep the climatists happy and also too a lot of special interests could profit.

Nobody is laughing anymore. The entire strategy has collapsed, because without Russian gas the energy transition is hopeless. It can never succeed, it will never go anywhere and the only question is how long we will persist in destroying our economy for no reason. The highly intelligent, extremely mature and deeply far-sighted adults of the German political establishment are facing a slow-burning economic and political emergency, and they are utterly unprepared even to acknowledge it, let alone do anything about it.

This would be why, when Trump returned last week to deliver a second speech to the U.N. General Assembly, nobody laughed. With an eye towards Europe, Trump said that “Your countries are going to hell,” before deploring particularly what he called the “double-tailed monster” of mass migration and climatism. He said all of this while standing directly in front of the President of the General Assembly, who just happens to be the arch-Green environmentalist bimbo Annalena Baerbock.




Source: eugyppius.com

 

[Old Rocks]

On the surface, this would seem to be the agenda, but it is far deeper and more sinister.

Gasoline permits ICE engines, and ICE engines allow freedom of movement.

Electric cars can be controlled.

The eventual agenda is to control all movement, speech, thinking and consumption.

Green taxes, digital IDs, and social credit regimes are all policies moving toward the total panopticon control grid.


Establishment republicans were on board with these types of things as well. IT is the populist resistance to these sort of schemes which has drove the establishment nutty.

If you EV is not hooked up to the grid, how the hell can it be controlled any more than an ICE car? And it is the MAGAts that are censuring anything that offends them, especially science.

 

[Old Rocks]

These clowns thought they had it all figured out back then. We would build a lot of wind turbines and install a lot of photovoltaic panels and make up the difference with Russian natural gas. It would be cheap, it would keep the climatists happy and also too a lot of special interests could profit.

Nobody is laughing anymore. The entire strategy has collapsed, because without Russian gas the energy transition is hopeless. It can never succeed, it will never go anywhere and the only question is how long we will persist in destroying our economy for no reason. The highly intelligent, extremely mature and deeply far-sighted adults of the German political establishment are facing a slow-burning economic and political emergency, and they are utterly unprepared even to acknowledge it, let alone do anything about it.

This would be why, when Trump returned last week to deliver a second speech to the U.N. General Assembly, nobody laughed. With an eye towards Europe, Trump said that “Your countries are going to hell,” before deploring particularly what he called the “double-tailed monster” of mass migration and climatism. He said all of this while standing directly in front of the President of the General Assembly, who just happens to be the arch-Green environmentalist bimbo Annalena Baerbock.

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Source: eugyppius.com

What utter bullshit. While there will be pain for a while, the EU getting off the Russian tit for energy and becoming independent will be the best thing that happened to them. Meanwhile, we have the most corrupt and stupidest President in our history gutting our energy sources. We could be completely energy independent of fossil fuels and fossil fuel corporations with the solar and wind potential with have in this nation. Right now, the single largest source of electrical energy for the EU is solar with nuclear coming in a close second.

 

[Old Rocks]

Renewable energy increases costs and we are still in the Biden energy policies

LOL Bullshit

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=lazard%20energy%20comparisonj&mmscn=stvo&mid=ACB4A582C712F969871FACB4A582C712F969871F&ajaxhist=0

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What utter bullshit. While there will be pain for a while, the EU getting off the Russian tit for energy and becoming independent will be the best thing that happened to them. Meanwhile, we have the most corrupt and stupidest President in our history gutting our energy sources. We could be completely energy independent of fossil fuels and fossil fuel corporations with the solar and wind potential with have in this nation. Right now, the single largest source of electrical energy for the EU is solar with nuclear coming in a close second.

Tell us about Germany and England saving money with all their wind and solar.

DURR

 

[Hafar1014]

LOL Bullshit

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=lazard%20energy%20comparisonj&mmscn=stvo&mid=ACB4A582C712F969871FACB4A582C712F969871F&ajaxhist=0

Prove it. Add all the tax subsides we have to pay the back up costs, land costs, and the purchase of a surplus energy when theres a shortage.
Germany has 40% renewables and the most expensive energy in Europe and frequent blackouts.
Then there is the demand problem it cant supply AI and server banks.
The short life of green energy is DOA drill baby drill build nuclear power. The nation that dies that gets all the factories

 

[MisterBeale]

If you EV is not hooked up to the grid, how the hell can it be controlled any more than an ICE car? And it is the MAGAts that are censuring anything that offends them, especially science.

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[justoffal]

What utter bullshit. While there will be pain for a while, the EU getting off the Russian tit for energy and becoming independent will be the best thing that happened to them. Meanwhile, we have the most corrupt and stupidest President in our history gutting our energy sources. We could be completely energy independent of fossil fuels and fossil fuel corporations with the solar and wind potential with have in this nation. Right now, the single largest source of electrical energy for the EU is solar with nuclear coming in a close second.

In final analysis it will be cost that determines what technology we use. I'm not saying the cost should be the determining Factor only that it continues to be the final word time and again.
When wind and solar actually prove themselves financially there will no longer be any argument to be had.

 

[Old Rocks]

$220/month

West​

West Virginia residents face significant energy costs due to the state's reliance on coal for electricity production. The average residential electricity rate in West Virginia is 14 ¢/kWh, which is lower than the national average. However, the state's reliance on coal has led to rising electricity rates, with some residents facing costs that are nearly twice as fast as the national average over the past 15 years. The average monthly electric bill for residential customers in West Virginia is $220/month, which is based on an average consumption of 1,564.00 kWh per month. This amount is calculated by multiplying the average monthly consumption by the average electric rate of 14 ¢/kWh.

EnergySage

The state's energy situation is further complicated by the impact of geopolitical events, such as Russia's invasion of Ukraine, which disrupted supply chains and led to higher prices for coal, gas, and other fuels. The data center boom is also creating massive energy demands, contributing to the increase in energy costs.

The Cool Down

To mitigate these costs, West Virginia residents are encouraged to explore options such as solar energy, which can offset a significant portion of their electric bill. On average, a 15.2 kW solar panel system in West Virginia can break even in about 12.39 years, providing a long-term financial benefit.

EnergySage

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

$220/month

West​

West Virginia residents face significant energy costs due to the state's reliance on coal for electricity production. The average residential electricity rate in West Virginia is 14 ¢/kWh, which is lower than the national average. However, the state's reliance on coal has led to rising electricity rates, with some residents facing costs that are nearly twice as fast as the national average over the past 15 years. The average monthly electric bill for residential customers in West Virginia is $220/month, which is based on an average consumption of 1,564.00 kWh per month. This amount is calculated by multiplying the average monthly consumption by the average electric rate of 14 ¢/kWh.
EnergySage
The state's energy situation is further complicated by the impact of geopolitical events, such as Russia's invasion of Ukraine, which disrupted supply chains and led to higher prices for coal, gas, and other fuels. The data center boom is also creating massive energy demands, contributing to the increase in energy costs.
The Cool Down
To mitigate these costs, West Virginia residents are encouraged to explore options such as solar energy, which can offset a significant portion of their electric bill. On average, a 15.2 kW solar panel system in West Virginia can break even in about 12.39 years, providing a long-term financial benefit.
EnergySage

Now compare their rates to California, with their reliance on green energy.