The Audacity to Believe In Ourselves

[P F Tinmore]

Some Palestinian nationalists, likewise with many nationalists movements believe that, “The nation was always there, indeed it is part of the natural order, even when it was submerged in the hearts of its members.”[2] Thus the web site of Al-Quds University states that although “Palestine was conquered in times past by ancient Egyptians, Hittites, Philistines, Israel, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Romans, Muslim Arabs, Mamlukes, Ottomans, the British, the Zionists…the population remained constant-and is now still Palestinian.”[3]

Palestinian nationalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JStone]

Guy Milliere, Eminent Professor of History and Political Science, Sorbonne, Paris

No one had heard of a Palestinian people before the mid-1960s. They did not exist. Israel under the British Mandate until Israel' s Independence in 1948 was called Palestine. All Jews who were born there until i948 had the word « Palestine » stamped on their passports. The current Palestinians are those Arabs who, for a variety of reasons, decided to leave the land during the 1947 War of Independence, when five countries – Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq – attacked the 600,000 people in the fledgling state of Israel the day after its birth, hoping to kill it in the crib.
The War Against Israel Goes On- by Guy Millière | DRZZ.fr

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsJjm5K07V0]Who are the Palestinians? - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Guy Milliere, Eminent Professor of History and Political Science, Sorbonne, Paris

No one had heard of a Palestinian people before the mid-1960s. They did not exist. Israel under the British Mandate until Israel' s Independence in 1948 was called Palestine. All Jews who were born there until i948 had the word « Palestine » stamped on their passports. The current Palestinians are those Arabs who, for a variety of reasons, decided to leave the land during the 1947 War of Independence, when five countries – Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq – attacked the 600,000 people in the fledgling state of Israel the day after its birth, hoping to kill it in the crib.
The War Against Israel Goes On- by Guy Millière | DRZZ.fr

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsJjm5K07V0]Who are the Palestinians? - YouTube[/ame]

Al Hambra Theatre, 1937, Jaffa, flying the Palestinian flag.

 

[JStone]

Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis

"The Palestinian Arabs' basic sense of corporate historic identity was, at different levels, Muslim or Arab or -- for some -- Syrian; it is significant that even by the end of the Mandate in 1948, after 30 years of separate Palestinian political existence, there were virtually no books in Arabic on the history of Palestine.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis

"The Palestinian Arabs' basic sense of corporate historic identity was, at different levels, Muslim or Arab or -- for some -- Syrian; it is significant that even by the end of the Mandate in 1948, after 30 years of separate Palestinian political existence, there were virtually no books in Arabic on the history of Palestine.

Is there some relevance to this?

 

[JStone]

Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis

"The Palestinian Arabs' basic sense of corporate historic identity was, at different levels, Muslim or Arab or -- for some -- Syrian; it is significant that even by the end of the Mandate in 1948, after 30 years of separate Palestinian political existence, there were virtually no books in Arabic on the history of Palestine.

Is there some relevance to this?

No Arabic history of Palestine

 

[P F Tinmore]

Middle East Historian Bernard Lewis

Is there some relevance to this?

No Arabic history of Palestine

Sure there is but you only know Israeli propaganda.

 

[JStone]

Is there some relevance to this?

No Arabic history of Palestine

Sure there is but you only know Israeli propaganda.

American Library Association

For more than four decades, Bernard Lewis has been one of the most respected scholars and prolific writers on the history and politics of the Middle East. In this compilation of more than 50 journal articles and essays, he displays the full range of his eloquence, knowledge, and insight regarding this pivotal and volatile region."
http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/gener...olitics/MiddleEast/?view=usa&ci=9780195144215

Bernard Lewis.

"The Palestinian Arabs' basic sense of corporate historic identity was, at different levels, Muslim or Arab or -- for some -- Syrian; it is significant that even by the end of the Mandate in 1948, after 30 years of separate Palestinian political existence, there were virtually no books in Arabic on the history of Palestine.

OWNED.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Bernard Lewis isn't the only historian in the world.

 

[JStone]

Bernard Lewis isn't the only historian in the world.

Carnegie Council

It is indeed an honor to present to you a man who is universally recognized as the most influential postwar historian of Islamism and the Middle East, Bernard Lewis. The Wall Street Journal anointed Professor Lewis "the world's foremost Islamic scholar." The Baltimore Sun called him "a towering figure among experts on the culture and religion of the Muslim world." The New York Times wrote that "he is a doyen of Middle Eastern studies."

Bernard Lewis is nothing less than a national treasure, whose trusted voice is one that politicians, journalists, historians, and the general public have all turned to for insight about the Middle East, especially after the events of 9/11.
Faith and Power: Religion and Politics in the Middle East

Bernard Lewis...

"The Palestinian Arabs' basic sense of corporate historic identity was, at different levels, Muslim or Arab or -- for some -- Syrian; it is significant that even by the end of the Mandate in 1948, after 30 years of separate Palestinian political existence, there were virtually no books in Arabic on the history of Palestine."

OWNED

 

[P F Tinmore]

What do you know about Issa Nakhleh?

 

[AquaAthena]

The more control we have over our own lives, the more we can believe in ourselves. The more control the government has in our lives, the less control we have. This is very simple.

 

[pgm]

Your so-called Palestinians are just Arabs from Arabia and elsewhere who illegally invaded Israel a few decades ago. Not surprisingly, 3 common Pallie surnames are al-Masri [The Egyptian], al-Iraqi [The Iraqi] and Maghrebi [Maghreb, Africa]

Are you saying there were no Arabs in the Holy Land before 1948?

 

[JStone]

Your so-called Palestinians are just Arabs from Arabia and elsewhere who illegally invaded Israel a few decades ago. Not surprisingly, 3 common Pallie surnames are al-Masri [The Egyptian], al-Iraqi [The Iraqi] and Maghrebi [Maghreb, Africa]

Are you saying there were no Arabs in the Holy Land before 1948?

Arabs are Israel's illegal Mexicans.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Your so-called Palestinians are just Arabs from Arabia and elsewhere who illegally invaded Israel a few decades ago. Not surprisingly, 3 common Pallie surnames are al-Masri [The Egyptian], al-Iraqi [The Iraqi] and Maghrebi [Maghreb, Africa]

Are you saying there were no Arabs in the Holy Land before 1948?

Arabs are Israel's illegal Mexicans.

Are Palestinian Christians Arabs?

 

[JStone]

Are you saying there were no Arabs in the Holy Land before 1948?

Arabs are Israel's illegal Mexicans.

Are Palestinian Christians Arabs?

Palestine ceased to exist in 1948, dink.

You see any Palestine in this UN map? http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/israel.pdf

 

[P F Tinmore]

Arabs are Israel's illegal Mexicans.

Are Palestinian Christians Arabs?

Palestine ceased to exist in 1948, dink.

You see any Palestine in this UN map? http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/israel.pdf

Fake map. It has no borders for Israel on it.

 

[JStone]

Are Palestinian Christians Arabs?

Palestine ceased to exist in 1948, dink.

You see any Palestine in this UN map? http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/israel.pdf

Fake map. It has no borders for Israel on it.

Be sure to tell the UN, dink.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine ceased to exist in 1948, dink.

You see any Palestine in this UN map? http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/israel.pdf

Fake map. It has no borders for Israel on it.

Be sure to tell the UN, dink.

They know already.

The designations employed and the presentation of material on this
map do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the
part of the Secretariat of the United Nations concerning the legal
status of any country, territory, city or area or of its authorities or
concerning the delimitation of its frontiers or boundaries.

http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/israel.pdf

 

[docmauser1]

The designations employed and the presentation of material on this map do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of the Secretariat of the United Nations concerning the legal status of any country, territory, city or area or of its authorities or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers or boundaries.

Cool, meaning the UN doesn't know what it's talking about, of course. So typical.