The antithesis of liberty is government power

[Kondor3]

The simple truth is...

There are things that are best left to Individual Effort...

There are things that are best left to Collective Effort...

The trick is to find - and, more importantly, sustain - the appropriate balance between the two...

Communist-Socialists take it too far in one direction...

Anarchists and their fellow-travelers (Libertarians, etc.) take it too far in the other...

Both fringes now engage in perpetual clamoring for their outcomes to the point where they use up all the oxygen in the room...

It's time to - once again - consign them to the fringes - and under the porch - so that rational, realistic folks can be heard again.

 

[TNHarley]

The simple truth is...

There are things that are best left to Individual Effort...

There are things that are best left to Collective Effort...

The trick is to find - and, more importantly, sustain - the appropriate balance between the two...

Communist-Socialists take it too far in one direction...

Anarchists and their fellow-travelers (Libertarians, etc.) take it too far in the other...

Most libertarians i know believe in basic govt service.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Anarchists and their fellow-travelers (Libertarians, etc.) take it too far in the other...

Libertarians < libertarians.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The simple truth is...

There are things that are best left to Individual Effort...

There are things that are best left to Collective Effort...

The trick is to find - and, more importantly, sustain - the appropriate balance between the two...

Communist-Socialists take it too far in one direction...

Anarchists and their fellow-travelers (Libertarians, etc.) take it too far in the other...

Both fringes now engage in perpetual clamoring for their outcomes to the point where they use up all the oxygen in the room...

It's time to - once again - consign them to the fringes - and under the porch - so that rational, realistic folks can be heard again.

The ultimate libertarian -- Thomas Jefferson -- helped CREATE government.

When you say "rational" or "realistic" you mean people who think like you.

The term "liberty" probably means nothing to you. You probably think of it last in your approach to anything government related or any law.

You want what you want, and **** the liberty of others around you, right?

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[baileyn45]

Kill authoritarians. kill nazis, kill commies, kill socialist, kill fascists, kill monarchs, kill theocrats. Kill them all.

 

[koshergrl]

He is absolutely correct.
True liberalism and progressivism IS liberty.
Its a shame those terms are so perverted now.
I would actually have an ideological I.D. if they werent.

You don't understand liberalism or progressivism.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Kill authoritarians. kill nazis, kill commies, kill socialist, kill fascists, kill monarchs, kill theocrats. Kill them all.

I would settle for a good public flogging and removal from any power, but I understand your frustration.

 

[Tehon]

Kill authoritarians. kill nazis, kill commies, kill socialist, kill fascists, kill monarchs, kill theocrats. Kill them all.

Off yourself.

You are the ultimate authoritarian.

 

[koshergrl]

The simple truth is...

There are things that are best left to Individual Effort...

There are things that are best left to Collective Effort...

The trick is to find - and, more importantly, sustain - the appropriate balance between the two...

Communist-Socialists take it too far in one direction...

Anarchists and their fellow-travelers (Libertarians, etc.) take it too far in the other...

Both fringes now engage in perpetual clamoring for their outcomes to the point where they use up all the oxygen in the room...

It's time to - once again - consign them to the fringes - and under the porch - so that rational, realistic folks can be heard again.

Nope.

Take your collective hive mentality and crawl back under your rock,you commie pos.

 

[TNHarley]

He is absolutely correct.
True liberalism and progressivism IS liberty.
Its a shame those terms are so perverted now.
I would actually have an ideological I.D. if they werent.

You don't understand liberalism or progressivism.

You dont understand much of anything, kosher.
Sorry, but your opinion means absolute shit to me.
You are a hack about everything. An ignorant one at that.

 

[g5000]

Right on Rand!

"If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and fifty dollars in cash. I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him." - Rand Paul

 

[g5000]

Right on Rand!

“For those who are here who are undocumented, should we give them a legal status? Should we document them so they can pay taxes and live legally and come out of the shadows? To that I say yes." - Rand Paul

Sen. Rand Paul on Balancing Legalized Immigration With Improved Border Security

 

[WheelieAddict]

A form of government is needed, unless you are anarchist. A freely and fairly elected government, although imperfect, is the best the human race has come up with so far. Same with capitalism.

There is no liberty without government, only anarchy where I or anyone else can select your liberty.

 

[Kondor3]

The simple truth is...

There are things that are best left to Individual Effort...

There are things that are best left to Collective Effort...

The trick is to find - and, more importantly, sustain - the appropriate balance between the two...

Communist-Socialists take it too far in one direction...

Anarchists and their fellow-travelers (Libertarians, etc.) take it too far in the other...

Both fringes now engage in perpetual clamoring for their outcomes to the point where they use up all the oxygen in the room...

It's time to - once again - consign them to the fringes - and under the porch - so that rational, realistic folks can be heard again.

Nope.

Take your collective hive mentality and crawl back under your rock,you commie pos.

Thank you for your feedback, old sow...

 

[Kondor3]

The ultimate libertarian -- Thomas Jefferson -- helped CREATE government...

In truth, Mr. Jefferson was an interesting mixture of Conformist and Nonconformist, and you have no particular claim on him or his legacy.

...When you say "rational" or "realistic" you mean people who think like you...

Nope. I mean "rational" and "realistic", which Libertarians are not, in the final analysis.

...The term "liberty" probably means nothing to you...

Incorrect. The term "liberty" means every bit as much to me as it does to you.

...You probably think of it last in your approach to anything government related or any law. ..

Incorrect. It's simply that the "liberty" to own firearms without common-sense accountability and oversight has become unsustainable.

You want what you want, and **** the liberty of others around you, right?.

Incorrect. I want sensible oversight and accountability for the the ownership of firearms.

 

[beagle9]

Government is force.

There is absolutely no better description of government. NONE.

Government:

Don't believe me?

Try saying "no" next time.


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Just wait until the Demon-crats get it back... You ain't seen nothin yet.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Incorrect. I want sensible oversight and accountability for the the ownership of firearms.

Because you say so?

**** YOU!!!

 

[beagle9]

The ultimate libertarian -- Thomas Jefferson -- helped CREATE government...

In truth, Mr. Jefferson was an interesting mixture of Conformist and Nonconformist, and you have no particular claim on him or his legacy.

...When you say "rational" or "realistic" you mean people who think like you...

Nope. I mean "rational" and "realistic", which Libertarians are not, in the final analysis.

...The term "liberty" probably means nothing to you...

Incorrect. The term "liberty" means every bit as much to me as it does to you.

...You probably think of it last in your approach to anything government related or any law. ..

Incorrect. It's simply that the "liberty" to own firearms without common-sense accountability and oversight has become unsustainable.

You want what you want, and **** the liberty of others around you, right?.

Incorrect. I want sensible oversight and accountability for the the ownership of firearms.

What has become unsustainable, is the Demon-crats/liberals/leftist thumbing their noses at out current laws on the books, and trying to create new laws in which they want everyone to adapt to or to conform too.

 

[Kondor3]

The ultimate libertarian -- Thomas Jefferson -- helped CREATE government...

In truth, Mr. Jefferson was an interesting mixture of Conformist and Nonconformist, and you have no particular claim on him or his legacy.

...When you say "rational" or "realistic" you mean people who think like you...

Nope. I mean "rational" and "realistic", which Libertarians are not, in the final analysis.

...The term "liberty" probably means nothing to you...

Incorrect. The term "liberty" means every bit as much to me as it does to you.

...You probably think of it last in your approach to anything government related or any law. ..

Incorrect. It's simply that the "liberty" to own firearms without common-sense accountability and oversight has become unsustainable.

You want what you want, and **** the liberty of others around you, right?.

Incorrect. I want sensible oversight and accountability for the the ownership of firearms.

What has become unsustainable, is the Demon-crats/liberals/leftist thumbing their noses at out current laws on the books, and trying to create new laws in which they want everyone to adapt to or to conform too.

Yeah, well, ya gotta watch the Democrats' nasty asses as well, or they'll steal ya blind from the other angle...

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Right on Rand!

"If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and fifty dollars in cash. I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him." - Rand Paul

So, Rand Paul sucks?

At least he's not the uber-statist, John Kasich.



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