Zone1 The Antichrist expected by many Christians Vs THE CYRUS that is expected by Jews?

[DennisPTate]

I have found an article that does a great job of explaining about the Christian expectations about The Antichrist and what Christians tend to believe will work out in the future? These Christian beliefs about future events, are vastly different from what Jewish thinkers predict will happen.

For example Christians expect the Antichrist guy to BUILD a Jewish Temple for the Jews BUT I believe that we Messianic Jews and Christians tend to be incorrect about this because what the Antichrist person specifically does is GO INTO THE JEWISH TEMPLE AND PROCLAIM THAT HE, A MERE HUMAN, IS MESSIAH YESHUA - JESUS back again.

To believe that the person who BUILDS A JEWISH TEMPLE for the Jewish people is the same person who goes into that temple and stops the sacrifices from taking place is highly illogical.

There is a massive difference between fulfilling the Jewish predictions of a "Cyrus" OR of a "Moshiach ben Yosef - Joseph - Ephrayim," who builds a Jewish Temple for the Jewish people and somebody GOING INTO THAT TEMPLE to proclaim that they are Moshiach ben David, the long awaited Messiah!

This article gives an excellent background to the expectations of Christians at this time:

Antichrist means different things to different people depending on their background, their culture, and their religion. But out of all of the meanings and all of the feelings that it inspires, far and above it is considered to be something negative—even more than that, something terrifying.

For many, the antichrist isn’t just a thing; it’s an entire worldview. The antichrist is seen as a leader at the end time of our present world, a leader who takes the world community down a path of sin and destruction. While preaching peace, he brings devastation, and he does it all with immense deception. It’s a picture and a term that brings chills to many.

But it doesn’t have to be like this. Despite what we might today associate with the term, antichrist originates in the Bible where it is defined and where the followers of Christ are told what to do about it.

In this article, we are going to take a closer look at what the Bible has to say about the antichrist. We must cover a lot of territory to appreciate this, so I ask the reader to be patient. There are unexpected surprises in store.

Before we take this closer look, I would like to lay some groundwork by looking at what many modern Christian writers have said and the way in which beliefs about the antichrist have developed over time.

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There have been several well-known Christian writers over the last few decades who have put together a picture of the earth’s last days before the return of Jesus. Books such as The Late Great Planet Earth and the Left Behind series have given details of what is expected. For the most part, all these books agree on what will take place and what will be the role of the antichrist. In what follows, these main points are summarized:
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#4 Rebuilds Jewish Temple
These passages make it abundantly clear that the Jewish people will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem sometime before the midpoint of the coming tribulation period. (Mark Hitchcock, Is the Antichrist Alive Today?, 49)

The Israelis will then be permitted to reinstitute the sacrifice and offering aspect of the Law of Moses. (Hal Lindsey, The Late Great Planet Earth, 152)

And what will be the result of this?

The Coming Antichrist - The Hope of the Bible

Antichrist—a word that may incite a sense of anxiety or dread. Who really is the Antichrist? What does he have to do with possibly the greatest case of mistaken identity in all history? This article will take you through a fascinating exploration of the antichrist: from a recounting of the...

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Daniel chapter 11 makes it very clear that there is no logical connection between the Cyrus type of political leader who constructs a Jewish tempe for the Jewish people with the person who STOPS THE SACRIFICES and instead goes into the Jewish temple and proclaims that he himself is Moshiach ben David!

20“There shall arise in his place one who imposes taxes on the glorious kingdom; but within a few days he shall be destroyed, but not in anger or in battle. 21And in his place shall arise a vile person, to whom they will not give the honor of royalty; but he shall come in peaceably, and seize the kingdom by intrigue. 22With the force of a flood they shall be swept away from before him and be broken, and also the prince of the covenant. 23And after the league is made with him he shall act deceitfully, for he shall come up and become strong with a small number of people. 24He shall enter peaceably, even into the richest places of the province; and he shall do what his fathers have not done, nor his forefathers: he shall disperse among them the plunder, spoil, and riches; and he shall devise his plans against the strongholds, but only for a time.
25“He shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the South with a great army. And the king of the South shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand, for they shall devise plans against him. 26Yes, those who eat of the portion of his delicacies shall destroy him; his army shall be swept away, and many shall fall down slain. 27Both these kings’ hearts shall be bent on evil, and they shall speak lies at the same table; but it shall not prosper, for the end will still be at the appointed time. 28While returning to his land with great riches, his heart shall be moved against the holy covenant; so he shall do damage and return to his own land.
The Northern King’s Blasphemies
29“At the appointed time he shall return and go toward the south; but it shall not be like the former or the latter. 30For ships from Cyprus shall come against him; therefore he shall be grieved, and return in rage against the holy covenant, and do damage.
“So he shall return and show regard for those who forsake the holy covenant. 31And forces shall be mustered by him, and they shall defile the sanctuary fortress; then they shall take away the daily sacrifices, and place there the abomination of desolation. 32Those who do wickedly against the covenant he shall corrupt with flattery; but the people who know their God shall be strong, and carry out great exploits. 33And those of the people who understand shall instruct many; yet for many days they shall fall by sword and flame, by captivity and plundering. 34Now when they fall, they shall be aided with a little help; but many shall join with them by intrigue. 35And some of those of understanding shall fall, to refine them, purify them, and make them white, until the time of the end; because it is still for the appointed time.
36“Then the king shall do according to his own will: he shall exalt and magnify himself above every god, shall speak blasphemies against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the wrath has been accomplished; for what has been determined shall be done. 37He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all. 38But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. 39Thus he shall act against the strongest fortresses with a foreign god, which he shall acknowledge, and advance its glory; and he shall cause them to rule over many, and divide the land for gain.
The Northern King’s Conquests
40“At the time of the end the king of the South shall attack him; and the king of the North shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter the countries, overwhelm them, and pass through. 41He shall also enter the Glorious Land, and many countries shall be overthrown; but these shall escape from his hand: Edom, Moab, and the prominent people of Ammon. 42He shall stretch out his hand against the countries, and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43He shall have power over the treasures of gold and silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt; also the Libyans and Ethiopians shall follow at his heels. 44But news from the east and the north shall trouble him; therefore he shall go out with great fury to destroy and annihilate many. 45And he shall plant the tents of his palace between the seas and the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and no one will help him.
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If most Messianic Jews and Christian writers are deceived into thinking that it is the same person who builds the Jews a Jewish temple, as the person who goes into that Temple and Proclaims that he is God with us again, then this serious error by so many Christian thinkers will obviously create many unnecessary problems as the fulfillment of Zechariah chapter fourteen gets closer and closer.

This article from Jewish Rabbis from back in 2016 can help us to understand that there is a huge difference between building a Jewish temple for the Jewish people, vs, an individual going into that temple to say that they are God here with humanity again.

BIN EXCLUSIVE: Sanhedrin Asks Putin and Trump to Build Third Temple in Jerusalem​

ADAM ELIYAHU BERKOWITZ​

BIBLICAL NEWS​

NOVEMBER 10, 2016​

3 MIN READ​

The Nascent Sanhedrin is calling on Russian President Vladmir Putin and US president-elect Donald Trump to join forces and fulfill their Biblically-mandated roles by rebuilding the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem.

Rabbi Hillel Weiss, spokesman for the Sanhedrin, contacted Breaking Israel News to announce that the election of Trump, who has promised to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, coupled with Putin’s expressed desire for the Temple to be rebuilt, prompted the Jewish court to send a letter offering the two the opportunity to act as modern-day Cyrus figures: non-Jewish kings who recognize the importance of Israel and the Temple.

Cyrus the Great, King of Persia in the sixth century BCE, announced in the first year of his reign that he was prompted by God to make a decree that the Temple in Jerusalem should be rebuilt.

Thus saith Koresh king of Paras: All the kingdoms of the earth hath Hashem, the God of heaven, given me; and He hath charged me to build Him a house in Yerushalayim, which is in Yehuda. Ezra 1:2

Cyrus sent the Jews under his rule back to Israel with a considerable sum of money with which to rebuild the Temple. The Sanhedrin plans to call on the two world leaders to take up this ancient Biblical decree and support the Jewish people in their holy mission.

Rabbi Weiss explained that the US elections have made the eternal Jewish dream a very real possibility.

“We are poised to rebuild the Temple. The political conditions today, in which the two most important national leaders in the world support the Jewish right to Jerusalem as their spiritual inheritance, is historically unprecedented,” Rabbi Weiss told Breaking Israel News.


The Sanhedrin’s letter notes that Trump’s upset victory was due to his support of Jerusalem, and reminds Trump of his campaign promise to move the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, effectively recognizing the city as the capital of Israel. The Jerusalem Embassy Act, passed in Congress in 1995, initiated the moving of the embassy, but has been vetoed since every American president since. The Sanhedrin calls on Trump to withhold the veto after he takes office.

The Sanhedrin also recalled Putin’s connection to the Temple in its letter. During his third official trip to Jerusalem in 2012, Putin paid a late-night visit to the Kotel (Western Wall). When he arrived at the holy site, the Russian leader stood in silence for several minutes, offering up a personal prayer, after which he read Psalms from a Russian-Hebrew prayer book.

An Israeli bystander called out in Russian, “Welcome, President Putin.” Putin approached the man, who explained the importance of the Temple Mount and the Jewish Temple. Chadrei Charedim, an Orthodox Hebrew news site, reported that Putin responded, “That’s exactly the reason I came here – to pray for the Temple to be built again.”

Putin at the Western Wall​

BIN EXCLUSIVE: Sanhedrin Asks Putin and Trump to Build Third Temple in Jerusalem

The Nascent Sanhedrin is calling on Russian President Vladmir Putin and US president-elect Donald Trump to join forces and fulfill their Biblically-mandated roles by rebuilding the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem.

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There is a school of thought that perhaps the final "Cyrus" is also Moshiach ben Yosef, but that is not necessarily how things will work out either. They could also be two separate leaders.

Moshiach ben Yosef (Messiah son of Joseph) is a figure in Jewish eschatology, often described as a warrior messiah from the tribe of Ephraim who precedes Moshiach ben David. He is expected to fight in the final war of Gog and Magog, gather the exiles, and prepare the world for the final redemption.
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Key Aspects of Moshiach ben Yosef:

• Role and Purpose: Unlike the kingly, peaceful role of Moshiach ben David, Moshiach ben Yosef focuses on the practical, physical, and spiritual preparation for the Messianic era, including fighting the enemies of Israel.
• The Suffering Warrior: Traditionally, it is believed that Moshiach ben Yosef will die in the battle against Armilus (an apocalyptic enemy) to pave the way for Moshiach ben David.
• Theories on Death: While some classical sources mention his death, the Arizal (Rabbi Isaac Luria) taught that one should pray for him not to die, and the Vilna Gaon later suggested that he will not die but instead endure intense suffering and 999 tests.
• Connection to Joseph: Similar to the biblical Joseph, who was a leader and provider for his brothers before revealing himself, this Messiah figure operates in the physical realm of history, serving as a "type" or prototype of the final redeemer.
• Four Stages: According to YouTube video, the era involves the ingathering of exiles, a period of hardships, the revelation of Moshiach ben Yosef, and finally, the war against evil.
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Note: The concept of Moshiach ben Yosef is primarily developed in rabbinic literature, such as the Talmud (Succah 52a) and Midrash, rather than being explicitly mentioned in the Tanakh.

Messiah ben Joseph - Wikipedia

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