The 2020 Election: An Objective Look. Was it Rigged or was it Fair?

[WelfareQueen]

I have looked very, very closely at the 2020 election. No conspiracy bullshit, just as objectively as possible. This is what I found. You be the judge. And, if you disagree with any of the findings, give factual reasons why.


1. 155,507,476 total votes were cast in 2020. 140,609,765 total votes were cast in 2024. Almost 15,000,000 less votes were cast in 2024. Where did the 15,000,000 votes go? Any reasonable explanations?


2. California cast 7,500,000 million less votes in 2024 versus 2020. Can anyone explain this? And this drop off includes a former California Senator and Attorney General on the ballot.


3. The election can be stolen based on a handful on counties in key swing states. For instance, 70% of the population of Arizona lives in Maricopa County. In 2020 Maricopa County cast 2,036,439 votes. Trump lost. In 2024 Maricopa County cast 1,344,556 votes. Trump won. Maricopa County saw a 36% drop off in votes cast. Any reasonable explanations?


4. The massive drop off in votes from 2020 happened almost exclusively in Blue states. New York had a million less votes cast in 2024 from 8.5 million to 7.5 million. How is this possible? Washington State had 4,000,000 votes cast in 2020. Ony 2.5 million were cast in 2024. This is obviously impossible to have a 40% drop off in votes in a rapidly growing state.


5. Key swing states such as Georgia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Wisconsin were among the very few states that saw vote totals stay the same in 2024 or go up slightly versus 2020. Why? My guess is the Trump Organization had a huge ground game in those states very closely monitoring to insure no cheating. Even so, known attempts were made to cheat in Pennsylvania as an example.



So, these are the facts I am aware of. I would really like to know your thoughts. What caused these massive changes in voting from 2020 to 2024? Please discuss.


Foxfyre

PoliticalChic

Mac1958

rightwinger

 

[rightwinger]

155,507,476 total votes were cast in 2020. 140,609,765 total votes were cast in 2024. Almost 15,000,000 less votes were cast in 2024. Where did the 15,000,000 votes go? Any reasonable explanations?

Oh……oh……me…….me

Because of COVID, 2020 had unprecedented Mail in voting
More people voted because it was so convenient

Trump told followers not to vote by mail, so most mail ins were Democrats

 

[dblack]

I have looked very, very closely at the 2020 election. No conspiracy bullshit, just as objectively as possible. This is what I found. You be the judge. And, if you disagree with any of the findings, give factual reasons why.


1. 155,507,476 total votes were cast in 2020. 140,609,765 total votes were cast in 2024. Almost 15,000,000 less votes were cast in 2024. Where did the 15,000,000 votes go? Any reasonable explanations?

Biden/Harris was such as shitshow that lots of Dems didn't vote.

2. California cast 7,500,000 million less votes in 2024 versus 2020. Can anyone explain this? And this drop off includes a former California Senator and Attorney General on the ballot.

See above

3. The election can be stolen based on a handful on counties in key swing states. For instance, 70% of the population of Arizona lives in Maricopa County. In 2020 Maricopa County cast 2,036,439 votes. Trump lost. In 2024 Maricopa County cast 1,344,556 votes. Trump won. Maricopa County saw a 36% drop off in votes cast. Any reasonable explanations?

Trump lost. Dems blew it. Then Trump won.

4. The massive drop off in votes from 2020 happened almost exclusively in Blue states.

See above.

 

[Rawley]

Oh……oh……me…….me

Because of COVID, 2020 had unprecedented Mail in voting
More people voted because it was so convenient

Trump told followers not to vote by mail, so most mail ins were Democrats

???? All the states that had mail-in voting in 2020 had mail-in voting in 2024.

 

[Oddball]

I have looked very, very closely at the 2020 election. No conspiracy bullshit, just as objectively as possible. This is what I found. You be the judge. And, if you disagree with any of the findings, give factual reasons why.


1. 155,507,476 total votes were cast in 2020. 140,609,765 total votes were cast in 2024. Almost 15,000,000 less votes were cast in 2024. Where did the 15,000,000 votes go? Any reasonable explanations?


2. California cast 7,500,000 million less votes in 2024 versus 2020. Can anyone explain this? And this drop off includes a former California Senator and Attorney General on the ballot.


3. The election can be stolen based on a handful on counties in key swing states. For instance, 70% of the population of Arizona lives in Maricopa County. In 2020 Maricopa County cast 2,036,439 votes. Trump lost. In 2024 Maricopa County cast 1,344,556 votes. Trump won. Maricopa County saw a 36% drop off in votes cast. Any reasonable explanations?


4. The massive drop off in votes from 2020 happened almost exclusively in Blue states. New York had a million less votes cast in 2024 from 8.5 million to 7.5 million. How is this possible? Washington State had 4,000,000 votes cast in 2020. Ony 2.5 million were cast in 2024. This is obviously impossible to have a 40% drop off in votes in a rapidly growing state.


5. Key swing states such as Georgia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Wisconsin were among the very few states that saw vote totals stay the same in 2024 or go up slightly versus 2020. Why? My guess is the Trump Organization had a huge ground game in those states very closely monitoring to insure no cheating. Even so, known attempts were made to cheat in Pennsylvania as an example.



So, these are the facts I am aware of. I would really like to know your thoughts. What caused these massive changes in voting from 2020 to 2024? Please discuss.


Foxfyre

PoliticalChic

Mac1958

rightwinger

Rigged.

The active suppression/lying about the Hunter laptop has been credibly estimated to have given Xiden 15% more of the vote than he would have received, had the criminal acts contained therein become common knowledge.

Nevermind all the obvious jiggery-pokery that occurred with mail-in cheating, stopped counting that resumed after ballot drops in the dead of night, machines connected to the internet, statistically impossible vote spikes, and all that...If that 15% didn't vote for Pedo Peter, none of that would've worked.

 

[OldFlame]

Oh……oh……me…….me

Because of COVID, 2020 had unprecedented Mail in voting
More people voted because it was so convenient

Trump told followers not to vote by mail, so most mail ins were Democrats

That doesn't answer the question of why the amount of voters dropped so significantly. They could have just as easily mailed in their votes in 2024 just like they did in 2020.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Oh……oh……me…….me

2020 had unprecedented Mail in voting
More people voted because it was so convenien

Okay. But in many states, particularly Blue States, there was no voter signature verification, or signature verification was ignored. Also, Pennsylvania, among other states, continued accepting mail in ballots after election day in defiance of State and Federal Law. Why?

Florida does mail in balloting. All mail in ballots are signature verified and counted upon receiving. The ballot must be dated and filled out correctly or it is automatically rejected. In 2020, these simple steps in many States were not done, or simply ignored. Why?

 

[rightwinger]

Okay. But in many states, particularly Blue States, there was no voter signature verification, or signature verification was ignored. Also, Pennsylvania, among other states, continued accepting mail in ballots after election day in defiance of State and Federal Law. Why?

Florida does mail in balloting. All mail in ballots are signature verified and counted upon receiving. The ballot must be dated and filled out correctly or it is automatically rejected. In 2020, these simple steps in many States were not done, or simply ignored. Why?

Oh….oh….me….me

Blue states relied heavily on democrats Mail in with Republicans voting in person

Try as they might….MAGA was unable to verify Trumps claims of voter fraud. Didn’t happen
Mail in ballots are traced to registered voters and must be signed and dated to be accepted
All states certified their results as fair and accurate
Pennsylvania and many other states accepted mail in ballots after the close of the election as long as they were postmarked by Election Day

 

[Foxfyre]

I have looked very, very closely at the 2020 election. No conspiracy bullshit, just as objectively as possible. This is what I found. You be the judge. And, if you disagree with any of the findings, give factual reasons why.


1. 155,507,476 total votes were cast in 2020. 140,609,765 total votes were cast in 2024. Almost 15,000,000 less votes were cast in 2024. Where did the 15,000,000 votes go? Any reasonable explanations?


2. California cast 7,500,000 million less votes in 2024 versus 2020. Can anyone explain this? And this drop off includes a former California Senator and Attorney General on the ballot.


3. The election can be stolen based on a handful on counties in key swing states. For instance, 70% of the population of Arizona lives in Maricopa County. In 2020 Maricopa County cast 2,036,439 votes. Trump lost. In 2024 Maricopa County cast 1,344,556 votes. Trump won. Maricopa County saw a 36% drop off in votes cast. Any reasonable explanations?


4. The massive drop off in votes from 2020 happened almost exclusively in Blue states. New York had a million less votes cast in 2024 from 8.5 million to 7.5 million. How is this possible? Washington State had 4,000,000 votes cast in 2020. Ony 2.5 million were cast in 2024. This is obviously impossible to have a 40% drop off in votes in a rapidly growing state.

5. Key swing states such as Georgia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Wisconsin were among the very few states that saw vote totals stay the same in 2024 or go up slightly versus 2020. Why? My guess is the Trump Organization had a huge ground game in those states very closely monitoring to insure no cheating. Even so, known attempts were made to cheat in Pennsylvania as an example.



So, these are the facts I am aware of. I would really like to know your thoughts. What caused these massive changes in voting from 2020 to 2024? Please discuss.


Foxfyre

PoliticalChic

Mac1958

rightwinger

Of course 2020, with COVID as the excuse, was the year of the mail in ballots. And most of us still believe that there was massive effort to cheat in that election. Voting by mail offers the greatest opportunities to cheat especially where some places intentionally turn a blind eye to the cheating.

While there is larger turnout/participation rate in states with mail in ballots where massive cheating is not suspected, the ratios between 2020 and 2024 are interesting too.

Colorado for instance has all mail in ballots. Participation rate was 87% in 2020 but just 79% in 2024. Kamala got roughly 1 million votes less than Biden did. Trump's totals were roughly the same in 2020 and 2024.

The Democrats will tell you there was a huge effort to get out the vote in 2020. I know from experience working with state and national GOP elections there is a huge effort to get out the vote in every election.

But admittedly the deep state operatives have become ever more bold year by year as they have taken control of our institutions and government and don't work as hard to hide it in recent years.

But verification becomes extremely difficult once the evidence has been compromised or destroyed.

I think we'll probably never know the whole truth of 2020. I honestly don't know whether the cheating was sufficient to make a final difference in that election. But the fact that I have no confidence the election was on the up and up and that my numbers are legion in that is sufficient reason to enact nationwide election reform so that we the people can be confident that our elections are as honest, fair and accurate as they can be.

 

[Independent thinker]

I have looked very, very closely at the 2020 election. No conspiracy bullshit, just as objectively as possible. This is what I found. You be the judge. And, if you disagree with any of the findings, give factual reasons why.


1. 155,507,476 total votes were cast in 2020. 140,609,765 total votes were cast in 2024. Almost 15,000,000 less votes were cast in 2024. Where did the 15,000,000 votes go? Any reasonable explanations?


2. California cast 7,500,000 million less votes in 2024 versus 2020. Can anyone explain this? And this drop off includes a former California Senator and Attorney General on the ballot.


3. The election can be stolen based on a handful on counties in key swing states. For instance, 70% of the population of Arizona lives in Maricopa County. In 2020 Maricopa County cast 2,036,439 votes. Trump lost. In 2024 Maricopa County cast 1,344,556 votes. Trump won. Maricopa County saw a 36% drop off in votes cast. Any reasonable explanations?


4. The massive drop off in votes from 2020 happened almost exclusively in Blue states. New York had a million less votes cast in 2024 from 8.5 million to 7.5 million. How is this possible? Washington State had 4,000,000 votes cast in 2020. Ony 2.5 million were cast in 2024. This is obviously impossible to have a 40% drop off in votes in a rapidly growing state.


5. Key swing states such as Georgia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Wisconsin were among the very few states that saw vote totals stay the same in 2024 or go up slightly versus 2020. Why? My guess is the Trump Organization had a huge ground game in those states very closely monitoring to insure no cheating. Even so, known attempts were made to cheat in Pennsylvania as an example.



So, these are the facts I am aware of. I would really like to know your thoughts. What caused these massive changes in voting from 2020 to 2024? Please discuss.


Foxfyre

PoliticalChic

Mac1958

rightwinger

I prefer to look at it a different way. Trump is far, far more effective now than he would have been if he had been re-elected in 2020. I say don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Instead of dwelling on a past that wouldn't have been as good as it is now, let's look forward to Trump burying democrats for years to come (even more than just 4 years). Democrats made their own bed, now let them lie in it. They actually re-elected Trump in 2024 with all of their weaponization nonsense, plummeting the democrat party into a current 20% approval rating. Life doesn't get much better than that. Sit back and enjoy it!

 

[Contumacious]

I have looked very, very closely at the 2020 election. No conspiracy bullshit, just as objectively as possible. This is what I found. You be the judge. And, if you disagree with any of the findings, give factual reasons why.


1. 155,507,476 total votes were cast in 2020. 140,609,765 total votes were cast in 2024. Almost 15,000,000 less votes were cast in 2024. Where did the 15,000,000 votes go? Any reasonable explanations?


2. California cast 7,500,000 million less votes in 2024 versus 2020. Can anyone explain this? And this drop off includes a former California Senator and Attorney General on the ballot.


3. The election can be stolen based on a handful on counties in key swing states. For instance, 70% of the population of Arizona lives in Maricopa County. In 2020 Maricopa County cast 2,036,439 votes. Trump lost. In 2024 Maricopa County cast 1,344,556 votes. Trump won. Maricopa County saw a 36% drop off in votes cast. Any reasonable explanations?


4. The massive drop off in votes from 2020 happened almost exclusively in Blue states. New York had a million less votes cast in 2024 from 8.5 million to 7.5 million. How is this possible? Washington State had 4,000,000 votes cast in 2020. Ony 2.5 million were cast in 2024. This is obviously impossible to have a 40% drop off in votes in a rapidly growing state.


5. Key swing states such as Georgia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Wisconsin were among the very few states that saw vote totals stay the same in 2024 or go up slightly versus 2020. Why? My guess is the Trump Organization had a huge ground game in those states very closely monitoring to insure no cheating. Even so, known attempts were made to cheat in Pennsylvania as an example.



So, these are the facts I am aware of. I would really like to know your thoughts. What caused these massive changes in voting from 2020 to 2024? Please discuss.


Foxfyre

PoliticalChic

Mac1958

rightwinger

RIGGED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[WelfareQueen]

Oh….oh….me….me

Blue states relied heavily on democrats Mail in with Republicans voting in person

Try as they might….MAGA was unable to verify Trumps claims of voter fraud. Didn’t happen
Mail in ballots are traced to registered voters and must be signed and dated to be accepted
All states certified their results as fair and accurate
Pennsylvania and many other states accepted mail in ballots after the close of the election as long as they were postmarked by Election Day

No. Many states including Pennsylvania did not verify signatures on mail in ballots in 2020. Pennsylvania also was admonished for counting mail in votes dated after election day in defiance of State Law.

These States did not require signature verification in 2020. Pennsylvania was one and so was Georgia. North Carolina and Wisconsin does not require signature verification and is ripe for cheating.

• Alabama (required two witnesses or a notary signature instead).
• Alaska (required a witness or notary signature instead).
• Connecticut.
• Delaware.
• Georgia.
• Maryland.
• Minnesota (required a witness or notary signature instead).
• Mississippi (required the ballot to be notarized instead).
• Missouri (required the ballot to be notarized instead).
• Nebraska.
• New Mexico.
• North Carolina (required two witnesses or a notary signature instead).
• Oklahoma (required the ballot to be notarized instead).
• Pennsylvania.
• South Carolina (required a witness signature instead).
• Vermont.
• Virginia.
• Wisconsin (required a witness signature instead).
• Wyoming.

Table 14: How States Verify Voted Absentee/Mail Ballots

Summarizes methods states use to verify absentee/mail ballots, such as signature verification and having the absentee/mail ballot witnessed or notarized.

www.ncsl.org

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Oh……oh……me…….me

Because of COVID, 2020 had unprecedented Mail in voting
More people voted because it was so convenient

Trump told followers not to vote by mail, so most mail ins were Democrats

You misspelled fraudulent ballots again!

 

[rightwinger]

Of course 2020, with COVID as the excuse, was the year of the mail in ballots. And most of us still believe that there was massive effort to cheat in that election. Voting by mail offers the greatest opportunities to cheat especially where some places intentionally turn a blind eye to the cheating.

Maybe you can explain how cheating is done on mail in ballots.
Each ballot is traced by barcode to a registered voter. There is no way to introduce fake ballots into the process. If massive mail in ballots are intercepted and filled out, there would be massive cases of people claiming they didn’t receive their ballot or attempts at double voting.
It didn’t happen

 

[rightwinger]

No. Many states including Pennsylvania did not verify signatures on mail in ballots in 2020. Pennsylvania also was admonished for counting mail in votes dated after election day in defiance of State Law.

These States did not require signature verification in 2020. Pennsylvania was one and so was Georgia. North Carolina and Wisconsin does not require signature verification and is ripe for cheating.

• Alabama (required two witnesses or a notary signature instead).
• Alaska (required a witness or notary signature instead).
• Connecticut.
• Delaware.
• Georgia.
• Maryland.
• Minnesota (required a witness or notary signature instead).
• Mississippi (required the ballot to be notarized instead).
• Missouri (required the ballot to be notarized instead).
• Nebraska.
• New Mexico.
• North Carolina (required two witnesses or a notary signature instead).
• Oklahoma (required the ballot to be notarized instead).
• Pennsylvania.
• South Carolina (required a witness signature instead).
• Vermont.
• Virginia.
• Wisconsin (required a witness signature instead).
• Wyoming.

Table 14: How States Verify Voted Absentee/Mail Ballots

Summarizes methods states use to verify absentee/mail ballots, such as signature verification and having the absentee/mail ballot witnessed or notarized.

www.ncsl.org

Those ballots still must have a signature. Faking a signature will get you serious jail time.
It is easy to identify because people will complain they didn’t get a ballot and will vote in person. If you show up to vote in person and it is found someone had voted in your name, a criminal investigation ensues.

Didn’t happen…..there was no fraud

 

[Contumacious]

Maybe you can explain how cheating is done on mail in ballots.
Each ballot is traced by barcode to a registered voter. There is no way to introduce fake ballots into the process. If massive mail in ballots are intercepted and filled out, there would be massive cases of people claiming they didn’t receive their ballot or attempts at double voting.
It didn’t happen

Four Stolen Elections: The Vulnerabilities of Absentee and Mail-In Ballots​

Four Stolen Elections: The Vulnerabilities of Absentee and Mail-In Ballots

No one disputes the need for absentee or mail-in ballots for people who cannot make it to their neighborhood polling places on Election Day, such as because they are sick, physically disabled, or serving the country abroad, or because they cannot make it to the polls for some other legitimate...

www.heritage.org

 

[rightwinger]

You misspelled fraudulent ballots again!

OK Skipper

Show some that were actually found
You can’t identify a single fraudulent ballot

 

[WelfareQueen]

Maybe you can explain how cheating is done on mail in ballots.
Each ballot is traced by barcode to a registered voter. There is no way to introduce fake ballots into the process. If massive mail in ballots are intercepted and filled out, there would be massive cases of people claiming they didn’t receive their ballot or attempts at double voting.
It didn’t happen

Maybe you can explain how cheating is done on mail in ballots.
Each ballot is traced by barcode to a registered voter. There is no way to introduce fake ballots into the process. If massive mail in ballots are intercepted and filled out, there would be massive cases of people claiming they didn’t receive their ballot or attempts at double voting.
It didn’t happen

No. Many states do not use a barcode on ballots, and many states do not have a shared statewide data base to show if a ballot is cast in a different city or county. The opportunities for cheating are rife.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Those ballots still must have a signature. Faking a signature will get you serious jail time.
It is easy to identify because people will complain they didn’t get a ballot and will vote in person. If you show up to vote in person and it is found someone had voted in your name, a criminal investigation ensues.

Didn’t happen…..there was no fraud

Who's signature? If the signature is not verified (and in many states they are not) it is very, very easy to cheat.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Four Stolen Elections: The Vulnerabilities of Absentee and Mail-In Ballots​

Four Stolen Elections: The Vulnerabilities of Absentee and Mail-In Ballots

No one disputes the need for absentee or mail-in ballots for people who cannot make it to their neighborhood polling places on Election Day, such as because they are sick, physically disabled, or serving the country abroad, or because they cannot make it to the polls for some other legitimate...

www.heritage.org

Great information. Key quote:


Mail-in ballots are susceptible to being stolen, altered, forged, and forced. In fact, a 1998 report by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement concluded that the “lack of ‘in-person, at-the-polls’ accountability makes absentee ballots the ‘tool of choice’ for those inclined to commit voter fraud.”