The 12 repubs in districts Biden won who caved to MAGA pressure

[struth]

3.8% UE, incredible strong consumer spending, and more than 8mm good jobs asking for applicants: we can conclude struth is either devious or confused or both.

Sorry the numbers don’t lie, a record number of americans say they are worse off…and the fact these voters voted for republicans speaks for itself

 

[JustAGuy1]

The Left needs to figure it out. Not everyone lives in a binary space like Pubs and Dems do. We simply want representation, if you run as a Conservative and you win as a Conservative you NEED govern as one. If you don't that's when you'll get voted out.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Sorry the numbers don’t lie, a record number of americans say they are worse off…and the fact these voters voted for republicans speaks for itself

No, they don't. The numbers are truthful: Americans are doing better than in 2020.

The vote so strongly they lost the Senate and barely took the House in a red tsunami year. Next year is going to be horrible for you.

 

[Redfish]

These 12 Republicans in Biden districts have now voted for Jim Jordan twice

Twelve House Republicans representing districts won by President Joe Biden in 2020 voted to make Rep. Jim Jordan the speaker of the House on Tuesday. On Wednesday, they had a second chance. They knew that their votes would not be decisive—Jordan would...

www.dailykos.com

They caved to MAGA pressure and threats. They will be voted out in 2024. The MAGA repubs cannot government. They have shown as much. What an embarrassment...

no one in MAG

These 12 Republicans in Biden districts have now voted for Jim Jordan twice

Twelve House Republicans representing districts won by President Joe Biden in 2020 voted to make Rep. Jim Jordan the speaker of the House on Tuesday. On Wednesday, they had a second chance. They knew that their votes would not be decisive—Jordan would...

www.dailykos.com

They caved to MAGA pressure and threats. They will be voted out in 2024. The MAGA repubs cannot government. They have shown as much. What an embarrassment...

there was no "MAGA pressure" these republicans put their personal views above the party, which is how the constitution is supposed to work, dems vote like lemmings in a block and would follow their masters over a cliff if asked. they are slaves to the left wing masters.

 

[Redfish]

No, they don't. The numbers are truthful: Americans are doing better than in 2020.

The vote so strongly they lost the Senate and barely took the House in a red tsunami year. Next year is going to be horrible for you.

how are people doing better? is $4 gas better? is high inflation better? no one is better off but the Bidens because they are being paid off by China, Russia, and Ukraine.

 

[Aldo Raine]

how are people doing better? is $4 gas better? is high inflation better? no one is better off but the Bidens because they are being paid off by China, Russia, and Ukraine.

$3.29/gallon 1 mile from home at the BP a mile away.

 

[struth]

No, they don't. The numbers are truthful: Americans are doing better than in 2020.

The vote so strongly they lost the Senate and barely took the House in a red tsunami year. Next year is going to be horrible for you.

Record numbers of people are worse off, a recipe for political discontent​

Record numbers of people are worse off, a recipe for political discontent: POLL

There is record dissatisfaction with Biden and Trump ahead of the 2024 election, according to a new poll.

abcnews.go.com

The facts don't lie....Americans are worse off since Xiden took office.


Not sure what you mean about losing the Senate...the GOP didn't have the Senate to lose, they did gain sets in the Senate in the midterms, and the Dems now don't have a majority because some reasonable dems left the party....

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The lost seats in the Senate in the mid terms, and the took the House with a five seat majority instead of the thirty they should have had. The Dems with the Indies rule the Senate.

 

[struth]

The lost seats in the Senate in the mid terms, and the took the House with a five seat majority instead of the thirty they should have had. The Dems with the Indies rule the Senate.

hahah the Dems lost seats....Senators have fled the party since Xiden took office

Dems across the country defecting to GOP: 'Democratic Party has become unrecognizable'​

Dems across the country defecting to GOP: 'Democratic Party has become unrecognizable'

Five Democratic state lawmakers have defected and joined the Republican Party so far in 2023, continuing a trend that has seen 83 lawmakers make that switch since 1994.

www.foxnews.com

Yes, and they TOOK the House...winning the national popular vote I might add.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

hahah the Dems lost seats....Senators have fled the party since Xiden took office

Dems across the country defecting to GOP: 'Democratic Party has become unrecognizable'​

Dems across the country defecting to GOP: 'Democratic Party has become unrecognizable'

Five Democratic state lawmakers have defected and joined the Republican Party so far in 2023, continuing a trend that has seen 83 lawmakers make that switch since 1994.

www.foxnews.com

Yes, and they TOOK the House...winning the national popular vote I might add.

The blue rules the Senate and the red can't even govern themselves. You foolish MAGA. You got the opportunity and blew it big time.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It would be far better if we just abolished political parties altogether and made every candidate run on their own merit. Ninety percent of the house could never win an election if they didn't have a population that was brainwashed into thinking that they had to vote for anyone with a certain letter next to their name.

You can't. It's in human nature to want to simplify things. Right now, people could vote for people not in political parties, they can't even vote for people in third parties.

Let's work with human nature and go full party, Proportional Representation, vote for the party you like best.

 

[Leviticus]

You can't. It's in human nature to want to simplify things. Right now, people could vote for people not in political parties, they can't even vote for people in third parties.

Let's work with human nature and go full party, Proportional Representation, vote for the party you like best.

People can't vote for third parties or independents. Because the system has been rigged so that the major parties are the only ones that can win elections. It would be far better if we adopted a ranked choice voting system that would minimize the ability of parties to control elections.

 

[GMCGeneral]

You can't. It's in human nature to want to simplify things. Right now, people could vote for people not in political parties, they can't even vote for people in third parties.

Let's work with human nature and go full party, Proportional Representation, vote for the party you like best.

That's only a recipe to guarantee far Left ONE PARTY rule forever.

 

[GMCGeneral]

People can't vote for third parties or independents. Because the system has been rigged so that the major parties are the only ones that can win elections. It would be far better if we adopted a ranked choice voting system that would minimize the ability of parties to control elections.

Another way to guaran-fucking-tee Democrat entrenchment. Do you really want that, Komrade?

 

[frigidweirdo]

People can't vote for third parties or independents. Because the system has been rigged so that the major parties are the only ones that can win elections. It would be far better if we adopted a ranked choice voting system that would minimize the ability of parties to control elections.

The system hasn't been "rigged" per se. It's just that that is the system. FPTP leads to two political parties.

In the UK it's Tories v. Labour for example. They do have more than two political parties, mostly because there are regional parties and the make up of the regions often doesn't matter. Scotland has 59 seats, Wales has 40 and Northern Ireland 18

Potentially they can have an impact, Wales and Scotland have plenty of Labour or Tory voting constituencies, NI doesn't and at times the DUP will have to support the Tories to stay in power.

But there hasn't been a non-Labour/Tory PM since Labour became a power in the 1920s....

Proportional Representation is a much better system, ranked choice would probably just lead to the main two parties winning all the time.

For example, Germany votes PR and FPTP at the same time.

PR decides the make up. But the difference can be as much as 10% of people voting differently between PR (for the smaller parties) and FPTP (for the main two parties).

Ireland uses Single Transferable Vote, or ranked choice voting. It does have nine political parties, though only four of them got over 10 seats. However each constituency is between three and five seats... rather than one which is what I think you'd want. For example Carlow-Kilkenny (first alphabetically) has five seats, and the FF gained two seats, and three other parties gained one seat. The guy with 10.3% didn't get elected, but someone with 6.7% did. Because I think it somehow takes into account political party AND candidate. So the party with the most votes may get the most seats.

But the FG with 20.6% of the vote get the same number of seats as the Greens with 5.3%

Not exactly fair.

The Australian also uses this

In the House they use instant run off, which is similar and the main two parties gained 56% of the vote between them.

In the Senate with STV they got about 50% of the vote.
But then the Liberal coalition got 34% of the vote but 42% of the seats
The Labour Party got 30% of the votes and 34% of the seats

So they're getting more than they'd get with PR.

 

[YoursTruly]

The MAGA house is a shithole.

The GOP needs to dump Trump. He's making fools out of them. When someone finally steps up and calls out the BS in the GOP and all those dem-lites, what do they do? Nominate and try to seat another dem-lite.

Republicans wouldn't know a conservative (or support one), if they saved them $1,000 on their taxes. Guys like Chip Roy, an actual conservative, get thrown under the bus by all the liberal Republicans.

They're mess.

 

[YoursTruly]

Holy crap people. This ain't about the democrats. Talking about how democrats are bad in a GOP thread is retarded and childish.

If we're going to fix the party, then we should focus on what's wrong with it.
The democrats can fix their own crap. They've got plenty. But who cares? They're just democrats.