TEXAS: Divide and Conquer

[popefumanchu]

Read today in the WSJ opinion page that Texas can divide into up to five states and it already has congressional approval (approved upon annexation).

So, come on, Texas! Let's get four more Republican states set up. Take one for the team!

 

[pegwinn]

Read today in the WSJ opinion page that Texas can divide into up to five states and it already has congressional approval (approved upon annexation).

So, come on, Texas! Let's get four more Republican states set up. Take one for the team!

Is Myth. Texas cannot divide. To cut up perfection would be wrong anyway.

 

[Avatar4321]

Read today in the WSJ opinion page that Texas can divide into up to five states and it already has congressional approval (approved upon annexation).

So, come on, Texas! Let's get four more Republican states set up. Take one for the team!

How would dividing Texas into four states help Republicans at all? The electorial votes and the representation would be the same because the population hasnt changed. Whats the point.

 

[Avatar4321]

I would also point out some parts of texas are Democrat. If we have one state we just need to carry one state to carry the same ammount of votes as it would if we had four states in its place. With four states there is more of a chance that the votes could be different. I like Texas as it is anyway.

 

[popefumanchu]

Four more states would add eight more electoral college votes (2 senators per state).

 

[Avatar4321]

Four more states would add eight more electoral college votes (2 senators per state).

Ah i suppose that would be true. I dont think that will sway this election much anyway. but 6 new senators might be nice in the senate to get some stuff passed.

 

[popefumanchu]

See... now you're seeing the possibilities

 

[Avatar4321]

See... now you're seeing the possibilities

Still dont necessarily think its a good idea. Maybe we should split Cali.

 

[freeandfun1]

Texas CAN split. It was part of the agreement for annexation. Just as was the agreement that the Federal government owns NO land in Texas (even Ft. Hood is leased). I've also heard that the Treaty of Hidalgo that ended the US-Mexican War had a clause that allowed for Texas to determine their own fate and therefore, Texas can stay in the Union or secede at their desire. But I have not been able to confirm this yet. If I do, I will past a link.

I've always heard that the reason Texas never split up, was that nobody wanted to give up the Alamo.

Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas to the United States - Approved March 1, 1845

2nd. And be it further resolved, That the foregoing consent of Congress is given upon the following conditions, to wit: First, said state to be formed, subject to the adjustment by this government of all questions of boundary that may arise with other government, --and the Constitution thereof, with the proper evidence of its adoption by the people of said Republic of Texas, shall be transmitted to the President of the United States, to be laid before Congress for its final action on, or before the first day of January, one thousand eight hundred and forty-six. Second, said state when admitted into the Union, after ceding to the United States all public edifices, fortifications, barracks, ports and harbors, navy and navy yards, docks, magazines and armaments, and all other means pertaining to the public defense, belonging to the said Republic of Texas, shall retain funds, debts, taxes and dues of every kind which may belong to, or be due and owing to the said Republic; and shall also retain all the vacant and unappropriated lands lying within its limits, to be applied to the payment of the debts and liabilities of said Republic of Texas, and the residue of said lands, after discharging said debts and liabilities, to be disposed of as said State may direct; but in no event are said debts and liabilities to become a charge upon the Government of the United States. Third -- New States of convenient size not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas and having sufficient population, may, hereafter by the consent of said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the Federal Constitution; and such states as may be formed out of the territory lying south of thirty-six degrees thirty minutes north latitude, commonly known as the Missouri Compromise Line, shall be admitted into the Union, with or without slavery, as the people of each State, asking admission shall desire; and in such State or States as shall be formed out of said territory, north of said Missouri compromise Line, slavery, or involuntary servitude (except for crime) shall be prohibited."

Texas PLUS four other states of equal size. That would be 10 senators plus the same number of congressmen as now of course.