Texas Democrats leave state to try to stop GOP voting bill

[BlueGin]

They wouldn't get "jail time" so to speak. They can be held under force long enough to make up a legislative quorum, then they would be released.

And all they would have accomplished would be an unnecessary round trip plane fight, and more global warming. Polluters.

Have they found out whose dime paid for those plane tickets- was that on their voters due to using campaign donations like with reportedly one did for these expenses?

I want to know who is selling them crack in DC?

Probably Willie Nelson

 

[BlueGin]

I just want to know who is paying for this trip? I surely hope not the Texas taxpayers.

Beto o Rourke and Willie Nelson.

 

[Esdraelon]

They left because republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat.
You know that so why are you dribbling about IDs?
Closing 24 hr booths etc. You know its undemocratic but you like the rest will do anything to stop democrats. You're a poor excuse for a patriotic American.

SPECIFY exactly how you justify your claim that "republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat."

And reducing the hours of a voting booth a voting booth from 24 hours, doesn't obstruct anybody. I have never had access to a voting booth for 24 hours, and I've been voting since 1968. Nobody needs voting access for 24 hours.

I've been voting 40 years and the hours for the polls have been 7-7, no early voting except for absentee ballots and an application with ID had to be submitted for that. THIS HR1 is the hill to die on because if they ram it through we're done.

 

[Esdraelon]

Probably Willie Nelson

Yep... in his defense though, he DOES owe a lot of back taxes

 

[Thors Provoni]

Put to death the perpetrators of this fraudulent election.

Televise their executions.

 

[Thors Provoni]

FRAUD-GATE

After WaterGate - Nixon did take office.

For a while.

But truth caught up with him.

Like it will for these perpetrators of the Voter Fraud.

Reap the whirlwind - reap it!

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Yes. Post it all again and I'll pick every piece to bits. You have nothing but hate.

I have plenty more than hate, but I do have hate for mindless, idiotic posting, that dishonestly denies truth, as you do here.

you asked, but the answer is too large for USMB to accomodate in one post, so it will have to be posted covering a series of posts >>

Arizona
An anonymous email sent to the Justice Department criminal division and Arizona legislature alleged that in Pima County, 35,000 votes were fraudulently embedded in advance of the election on behalf of each Democratic candidate at the local and federal level. The allegation coincides with a spike or "injection" of 143,000 votes noted at 8:06 p.m. on election night.

According to the email, discussed at a hearing, Pima County Democrats held a meeting on Sept. 10, 2020 in which plans were detailed to illegally inject 35,000 votes for each Democrat at the outset in statistically adjusted embeds that could be written off as human error if audited.

There was no proper validation of 1.9 million signatures on mail in ballots.

Dominion machines were connected to the internet, according to a witness at a GOP hearing, raising serious security issues.

A hearing witness states she was instructed to allow people to vote who were not registered in the state, who were not on the voter rolls, who had out of state driver's licenses, who not had been residents long enough, who had not registered in time or who said they were registered in another state. However, pro-Trump voters from other counties were sent away, she says. She also says somebody apparently brought homeless people from outside the precinct in to vote. She also says 13,000 votes, when counted, were unobserved by Republicans.

She says just what she personally observed over five hours in one day impacted approximately 2,000 votes. She also said a poll observer for Democrats from California told her he was there "to help turn this precinct blue... this is one of our problem ones." He told her they were also focusing on Maricopa County.

A Republican Party leader says she watched votes for Trump be changed to or counted for Biden once they were place in the machine. In a lawsuit, she also says in parts of Maricopa County there were not proper safeguards verifying that mail-in ballots came from registered voters. She also says Republicans were not allowed a proper view of the counting process. (More to come from Arizona hearing soon...)

Watch: Arizona hearing

State officials blame “a data error” for conflicting and fluctuating results in one county that dropped the appearance of Biden’s lead by 6,000 votes, and then posted it back again.

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California
Two men are charged with voter fraud after they allegedly submitted more than 8,000 fraudulent voter registration applications for homeless people between July and October 2020.

Pair Charged With Voter Fraud | Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office

Georgia
Allegations of "clear evidence of vote switching" from Trump to Biden, including 30,000 votes among several counties.

There were illegal votes from as many as 2,560 felons; 66,247 underage residents; 2,423 people who were not registered; 4,926 people who registered in another state after Georgia; more than 395 people who voted twice; 8,718 dead people; 2,664 who received absentee ballots outside the deadline; illegally blocked observers; failure to properly match signatures and verify identify and eligibility. That's according to a lawsuit filed on behalf of President Trump on Dec. 4.

Statistical analysis shows Biden pulling from behind in improbably consistent increments in Georgia and other states. “On Wednesday, Nov. 4, the New York Times reported President Trump was leading in Georgia by 103,997 votes. Then the Times’ continuous voting updates showed ballots arriving for Biden in multiples of 4,800 votes over and over again. In some vote dumps, the President actually lost votes.” This continued until Biden pulled ahead by almost exactly 1,000 votes, gaining 104,984 votes in multiples of 4,800.

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In Fulton County, all 900 military ballots went for Joe Biden. The 100% military vote rate for Biden seems improbably in conflict with the 2016 split, where Trump reportedly won the overall military vote 60% to 34%, according to attorney Lin Wood.

On election night, Georgia election officials suspended the vote count, citing a water leak in a master pipe. When Republican observers left, thousands of votes were counted, exclusively for Joe Biden. When people inquired, there was no work order for any leak. The only reported leak that night was a small leak in a toilet that “had nothing to do with a room with ballot counting,” according to a lawsuit filed by attorney Lin Wood. This was confirmed by a later investigation held by a state official.

Read Lin Wood Lawsuit

Election workers put masses of ballots in the wrong stacks and blocked Republican observers; there were suspiciously “pristine" “pre-printed” ballots; thousands of voters registered at specific, fraudulent addresses; 20,311 absentee or early votes were cast by people who were registered as having moved out of state; 96,000 votes were illegally counted for Biden; absentee ballot signatures were not properly matched. That’s according to attorney Sidney Powell’s lawsuit. The lawsuit also states that Dominion voting machines allowed for manual manipulation of vote tallies and alteration of settings to put ballots in a “question” pile where they can be deleted.

Read Sidney Powell Lawsuit

Attorney and registered Democrat Carlos Silva says he observed “widespread fraud” in several precincts, always benefitting Biden. At one precinct, a stack of absentee ballots had perfectly filled out black bubbles and, as poll workers went through the stack, he heard them call out Biden’s name “more than 500 times in a row.” At a second precinct, he observed similarly filled in black bubbles for Biden on absentee ballots and poll workers moved him away from his observation position. He observed absentee ballots for Trump counted for Biden; says the required signature verification process was not being followed; and thousands of the “perfect bubble” ballots were for Biden, with no state or local candidates selected. The claims are filed in a sworn declaration.

Read Declaration

Government data indicates "well over 100,000 illegal votes [in Georgia] were improperly counted, while tens of thousands of legal votes were not counted.” That’s according to the Thomas Moore Society's Amistad Project, which has filed litigation questioning more than 200,000 Georgia ballots.

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Gov. Brian Kemp illegally authorized election officials to open outer envelopes of absentee ballots three weeks before the election, which is prohibited by state law, according to a lawsuit.

A Project Veritas video claims observers heard votes for Trump being counted for Biden.

See Video

Some voters who requested a mail-in ballot but instead decided to vote in person on Election Day were denied the chance to vote in person, according to a witness. The witness also said many such voters were denied the opportunity to cast a “provisional” mail-in ballot on Election Day. Signatures on mail-in ballot envelopes weren’t verified during the recount, says a witness. Some counties didn’t recount ballots by hand, but improperly used machines. One observer said he saw a batch of ballots that was suspiciously “pristine,” almost all for Biden, and “there was a difference in the texture of the paper.”

At a Milton, Georgia, precinct, poll workers were asked to sign a chain of custody letter a day and a half before the voting machines arrived, according to a witness. She also said the machines were not sealed or locked as required, and the serial numbers didn’t match.

One observer described many batches of ballots in which every vote was for Biden, and says he saw that the watermark on some ballots differed from the rest.

Read More

Read Declaration

More than 1,000 early/absentee votes were cast by people whose registered addresses are at post offices, UPS, and FedEx; willfully disguising the box numbers as ‘Apt,’ ‘Unit,’ etc. in violation of state election law. That’s according to Matt Braynard, former data and strategy director for President Trump’s 2016 campaign. (A sample of 15 such address entries in a Nov. 24 tweet):

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The hand recount was not legitimate because pro-Trump observers were not allowed proper access, according to multiple observers. Some votes for Trump were placed into piles for Biden. Some ballots from the “No Vote” and “Jorgensen” candidate trays were moved to the “Biden” tray, according to one witness.

A recount monitor flagged a 9,626-vote error in the hand recount in DeKalb County, according to the chairman of the Georgia Republican Party in a declaration. One batch had 10,707 votes for Biden and 13 for Trump. But the true count was 1,081 for Biden and 13 for Trump. Two official counters had signed off on the miscounted batch.

Read Affidavit

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A post-election audit and recount discovered memory cards with thousands of uncounted ballots, most of them for Trump, two weeks after the election: 508 in Walton County, 2,600 in Floyd County and 2,755 in Fayette County. The discovery cut Biden’s lead in the state by more than 1,400 votes.

Read More

Has any of this been authenticated?

 

[Colin norris]

Why is this even an issue. Considering what they did was illegal, Texas should simply change the law here concerning how many legislators need to be present in order to vote on a bill.

As this is not the first time iirc, they have had the chance to correct this seemingly mismatch in the law.

Due to the current misbehaving sabatoge of the Texas legislature, they should do away with the quorum rule entirely. It can no longer survive. If Democrats leave, go ahead and vote without them, and without quorum.

I would actually prefer it goes the other way as I stand behind the same concept as the filibuster - the minority should be able to halt the process when they feel strongly about a measure. However, the law in TX actually requires the legislators to attend or be arrested meaning that the quorum rule seems to be nonsensical. Why is there a law that requires legislators to be present and a rule that does not allow business to proceed if they are not? The laws are contradictory.

The need to get rid of one of those laws. If it is the quorum rule then so be it.

That's interesting.
There's too many alleged and could haves In it to be bullet proof evidence.
It probably is to you but not the SC.

Again, present it all to who ever you want, nothing will change. Joes the president. Get over it.

 

[two_iron]

I'm good with each one of those shit-eating rodents doing 30 days in their local county jail, if they have the nuts to return here.

Let's see how dedicated they are to this scam.

Look at the stupid in those soulless eyes. It looks like mental illness fucked a farm animal.... literally, the consummate Dim.

 

[miketx]

I'm good with each one of those shit-eating rodents doing 30 days in their local county jail, if they have the nuts to return here.

Let's see how dedicated they are to this scam.

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Look at the stupid in those soulless eyes. It looks like mental illness fucked a farm animal.... literally, the consummate Dim.

Nothing will happen to them.

 

[FA_Q2]

They left because republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat.
You know that so why are you dribbling about IDs?
Closing 24 hr booths etc. You know its undemocratic but you like the rest will do anything to stop democrats. You're a poor excuse for a patriotic American.

SPECIFY exactly how you justify your claim that "republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat."

And reducing the hours of a voting booth a voting booth from 24 hours, doesn't obstruct anybody. I have never had access to a voting booth for 24 hours, and I've been voting since 1968. Nobody needs voting access for 24 hours.

I've been voting 40 years and the hours for the polls have been 7-7, no early voting except for absentee ballots and an application with ID had to be submitted for that. THIS HR1 is the hill to die on because if they ram it through we're done.

More utter idiocy from you.

What makes you think I ever said Biden did not win? Where have I ever supported the idea the election was stolen.

You are such a partisan idiot that you cannot even converse with a person as all you can see is the moronic character that you conjure in your head instead.

 

[FA_Q2]

They left because republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat.
You know that so why are you dribbling about IDs?
Closing 24 hr booths etc. You know its undemocratic but you like the rest will do anything to stop democrats. You're a poor excuse for a patriotic American.

SPECIFY exactly how you justify your claim that "republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat."

And reducing the hours of a voting booth a voting booth from 24 hours, doesn't obstruct anybody. I have never had access to a voting booth for 24 hours, and I've been voting since 1968. Nobody needs voting access for 24 hours.

I've been voting 40 years and the hours for the polls have been 7-7, no early voting except for absentee ballots and an application with ID had to be submitted for that. THIS HR1 is the hill to die on because if they ram it through we're done.

'Were done' is noting more than sky is falling bullshit.

You will still have your voting rights, still be able to vote and do so rather easily.

 

[candycorn]

I saw Greg Abbott on TV tonight saying that when they return to Texas, they will be arrested.

Nothing like jailing fellow elected politicians from the other party. LOL

Fellow elected politicians who are refusing to do their job and throwing a temper tantrum to keep the elections safe from fraud.

I guess they learned from the US Senate when they refused to have hearings on a SCOTUS nominee for over a year.

 

[miketx]

They left because republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat.
You know that so why are you dribbling about IDs?
Closing 24 hr booths etc. You know its undemocratic but you like the rest will do anything to stop democrats. You're a poor excuse for a patriotic American.

SPECIFY exactly how you justify your claim that "republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat."

And reducing the hours of a voting booth a voting booth from 24 hours, doesn't obstruct anybody. I have never had access to a voting booth for 24 hours, and I've been voting since 1968. Nobody needs voting access for 24 hours.

I've been voting 40 years and the hours for the polls have been 7-7, no early voting except for absentee ballots and an application with ID had to be submitted for that. THIS HR1 is the hill to die on because if they ram it through we're done.

'Were done' is noting more than sky is falling bullshit.

You will still have your voting rights, still be able to vote and do so rather easily.

Troll commie.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Did anybody say the court battles were over ? If they did, it sure wasn't me.

Then take the evidence to court or stfu. I believe thats what i said. So do that.

 

[FA_Q2]

They left because republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat.
You know that so why are you dribbling about IDs?
Closing 24 hr booths etc. You know its undemocratic but you like the rest will do anything to stop democrats. You're a poor excuse for a patriotic American.

SPECIFY exactly how you justify your claim that "republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat."

And reducing the hours of a voting booth a voting booth from 24 hours, doesn't obstruct anybody. I have never had access to a voting booth for 24 hours, and I've been voting since 1968. Nobody needs voting access for 24 hours.

I've been voting 40 years and the hours for the polls have been 7-7, no early voting except for absentee ballots and an application with ID had to be submitted for that. THIS HR1 is the hill to die on because if they ram it through we're done.

'Were done' is noting more than sky is falling bullshit.

You will still have your voting rights, still be able to vote and do so rather easily.

Troll commie.

?

 

[beagle9]

They left because republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat.
You know that so why are you dribbling about IDs?
Closing 24 hr booths etc. You know its undemocratic but you like the rest will do anything to stop democrats. You're a poor excuse for a patriotic American.

SPECIFY exactly how you justify your claim that "republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat."

And reducing the hours of a voting booth a voting booth from 24 hours, doesn't obstruct anybody. I have never had access to a voting booth for 24 hours, and I've been voting since 1968. Nobody needs voting access for 24 hours.

I've been voting 40 years and the hours for the polls have been 7-7, no early voting except for absentee ballots and an application with ID had to be submitted for that. THIS HR1 is the hill to die on because if they ram it through we're done.

'Were done' is noting more than sky is falling bullshit.

You will still have your voting rights, still be able to vote and do so rather easily.

"Easily" as in to commit fraud, scam or con the process if need be maybe ?

After what just happened in this last election, uhhh it is that you all are taking the stance that black folks are the target of new election integrity rules by republican's ? Otherwise you all are arguing that the new enforceable rules are being created with the intent on stopping the black or brown vote ? Really ?? You all think that black folks can't get or have an ID to vote ? Really ? LOL.

You all have revealed your "bluff hand" by going there, and not only that, but have insulted black Americans by insinuating that they are so dumb that they can't provide an ID or social security number when voting.

Biden and his vice Obama really stepped into it this time. LOL.

 

[FA_Q2]

They left because republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat.
You know that so why are you dribbling about IDs?
Closing 24 hr booths etc. You know its undemocratic but you like the rest will do anything to stop democrats. You're a poor excuse for a patriotic American.

SPECIFY exactly how you justify your claim that "republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat."

And reducing the hours of a voting booth a voting booth from 24 hours, doesn't obstruct anybody. I have never had access to a voting booth for 24 hours, and I've been voting since 1968. Nobody needs voting access for 24 hours.

I've been voting 40 years and the hours for the polls have been 7-7, no early voting except for absentee ballots and an application with ID had to be submitted for that. THIS HR1 is the hill to die on because if they ram it through we're done.

'Were done' is noting more than sky is falling bullshit.

You will still have your voting rights, still be able to vote and do so rather easily.

"Easily" as in to commit fraud, scam or con the process if need be maybe ?

After what just happened in this last election, uhhh it is that you all are taking the stance that black folks are the target of new election integrity rules by republican's ? Otherwise you all are arguing that the new enforceable rules are being created with the intent on stopping the black or brown vote ? Really ?? You all think that black folks can't get or have an ID to vote ? Really ? LOL.

You all have revealed your "bluff hand" by going there, and not only that, but have insulted black Americans by insinuating that they are so dumb that they can't provide an ID or social security number when voting.

Biden and his vice Obama really stepped into it this time. LOL.

WTF are you talking about?

You seem to think I have takes a stance on this issue that I have not. I don't have any specific problems with TX proposed voting changes.

 

[FA_Q2]

They left because republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat.
You know that so why are you dribbling about IDs?
Closing 24 hr booths etc. You know its undemocratic but you like the rest will do anything to stop democrats. You're a poor excuse for a patriotic American.

SPECIFY exactly how you justify your claim that "republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat."

And reducing the hours of a voting booth a voting booth from 24 hours, doesn't obstruct anybody. I have never had access to a voting booth for 24 hours, and I've been voting since 1968. Nobody needs voting access for 24 hours.

I've been voting 40 years and the hours for the polls have been 7-7, no early voting except for absentee ballots and an application with ID had to be submitted for that. THIS HR1 is the hill to die on because if they ram it through we're done.

More utter idiocy from you.

What makes you think I ever said Biden did not win? Where have I ever supported the idea the election was stolen.

You are such a partisan idiot that you cannot even converse with a person as all you can see is the moronic character that you conjure in your head instead.

^ quoted the wrong post here. This was directed at Colin's baseless assumptions in this post:

Why is this even an issue. Considering what they did was illegal, Texas should simply change the law here concerning how many legislators need to be present in order to vote on a bill.

As this is not the first time iirc, they have had the chance to correct this seemingly mismatch in the law.

Due to the current misbehaving sabatoge of the Texas legislature, they should do away with the quorum rule entirely. It can no longer survive. If Democrats leave, go ahead and vote without them, and without quorum.

I would actually prefer it goes the other way as I stand behind the same concept as the filibuster - the minority should be able to halt the process when they feel strongly about a measure. However, the law in TX actually requires the legislators to attend or be arrested meaning that the quorum rule seems to be nonsensical. Why is there a law that requires legislators to be present and a rule that does not allow business to proceed if they are not? The laws are contradictory.

The need to get rid of one of those laws. If it is the quorum rule then so be it.

That's interesting.
There's too many alleged and could haves In it to be bullet proof evidence.
It probably is to you but not the SC.

Again, present it all to who ever you want, nothing will change. Joes the president. Get over it.

 

[Colin norris]

They left because republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat.
You know that so why are you dribbling about IDs?
Closing 24 hr booths etc. You know its undemocratic but you like the rest will do anything to stop democrats. You're a poor excuse for a patriotic American.

SPECIFY exactly how you justify your claim that "republicans want to pass bills that deliberaly obstruct people who they perceive vote Democrat."

And reducing the hours of a voting booth a voting booth from 24 hours, doesn't obstruct anybody. I have never had access to a voting booth for 24 hours, and I've been voting since 1968. Nobody needs voting access for 24 hours.

I've been voting 40 years and the hours for the polls have been 7-7, no early voting except for absentee ballots and an application with ID had to be submitted for that. THIS HR1 is the hill to die on because if they ram it through we're done.

More utter idiocy from you.

What makes you think I ever said Biden did not win? Where have I ever supported the idea the election was stolen.

You are such a partisan idiot that you cannot even converse with a person as all you can see is the moronic character that you conjure in your head instead.

^ quoted the wrong post here. This was directed at Colin's baseless assumptions in this post:

Why is this even an issue. Considering what they did was illegal, Texas should simply change the law here concerning how many legislators need to be present in order to vote on a bill.

As this is not the first time iirc, they have had the chance to correct this seemingly mismatch in the law.

Due to the current misbehaving sabatoge of the Texas legislature, they should do away with the quorum rule entirely. It can no longer survive. If Democrats leave, go ahead and vote without them, and without quorum.

I would actually prefer it goes the other way as I stand behind the same concept as the filibuster - the minority should be able to halt the process when they feel strongly about a measure. However, the law in TX actually requires the legislators to attend or be arrested meaning that the quorum rule seems to be nonsensical. Why is there a law that requires legislators to be present and a rule that does not allow business to proceed if they are not? The laws are contradictory.

The need to get rid of one of those laws. If it is the quorum rule then so be it.

That's interesting.
There's too many alleged and could haves In it to be bullet proof evidence.
It probably is to you but not the SC.

Again, present it all to who ever you want, nothing will change. Joes the president. Get over it.

No. Its your posts which are baseless assumptions because none have been proven to be so.
You guys just don't get it. You post anything that gives you a buzz, you get challenged them the shit pours out of you like lava.
Joe is the president. Get over it.