Tel Aviv Getting Pounded There is a God

[BackAgain]

Ok. I agree that there is a valid question about whether our President had Constitutional authority to strike Iran. We can note that Israel did initiate the present phase of the war by “pre-emptively” hitting Iran. But, even so, the Iranian leadership did target Israeli people.

We have obligations to defend Israel (maybe especially when Israel’s enemy engages in such a war crime method of fighting).

Plus, we frankly don’t know what specific evidence the President received ahead of time regarding how “close” Iran was to actually making a few warheads. (And, of course, assuming he got it, we also don’t know if it was accurate intel.)

Is this a very dangerous time for us and for the world? I assume that’s obvious. Yet, that fact, standing alone, doesn’t tell us that the President’s action was a mistake.

 

[Calypso Jones]

Iran does not have nukes.

Isreal does.

What are you talking about ?

That would be nice...so let's make sure they never do. Looks like the campaign was successful and our jets are headed home.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

A.I. propaganda from Iran. Muzzies and their supporters in America will believe anything

 

[Grau]

A.I. propaganda from Iran. Muzzies and their supporters in America will believe anything

First, If you had ever been to Iran, you would know that empty chants of "Death to America." only express opposition to US Middle East Policy of appeasing AIPAC etc.

Second, if you knew anything about Farsi, you would no that no Iranian leader has threatened to destroy Israel.

Next, I don't suppose that there's any chance that you ever wondered why the Muslims resent the US Government for aiding and abetting the mass murder of Millions for Zionist Lebensraum?

I spent 10 - 11 months walking and hitch hiking throughout the Islamic Middle East after serving in Vietnam (Laos) and seeing what modern munitions do to human tissue.
Therefore, I have a fairly good idea of the inexcusable mass slaughter in Gaza etc.

The whole time there, I didn't encounter a single hostile incident for being American.

The Muslims in Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan etc gave me rides, treated me to meals or just tea; they took time to show me obscure archeological ruins and then meet with their friends who wanted to know all about America snd life in the West.

Because I spoke only English, French, German and some Latin, communication included lots of sign language, drawing in the sand etc but was always friendly and spirited.

While my "audience" wanted to know all about American movies, cars, and life in general, the two questions I was most frequently asked were:

1. "Why do Americans suddenly hate us/"

2. "Why does America help the Israelis kill the Palestinians and steal their land?"

I tried to explain the destructive influence of pro Israel MSM (1) on Americans who were generally too naive, untraveled and or lazy to learn the region's true history just as I tried to explain how it was the unregistered Zionist lobbies that dominated US Middle East Policy making, not loyal Americans.

The numerous curious Muslims with whom I spoke still liked Americans in general but could not understand how people as sophisticated as Americans could be so easily duped and manipulated by a foreign government nor can I.

I hope you'll realize the following reality before you blame the world's 1.8 Billion Muslims for responding to Nazi trained and armed Zionist terrorist gangs and their genocidal expansionism.


“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”

– John Sheehan, Society of Jesus. (Jesuit priest)

(1). “Studies continually show strong pro-Israel bias in western media”
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/studies-continually-show-strong-pro-israel-bias-western-media-881718416

EXCERPT “Mainstream western media outlets are, by and large, infused with a pro-Israeli ideological bias that colors nearly all mainstream Western reporting on Israel-Palestine.

Israel is assumed to be good, peaceful, and like ‘us’. The Palestinians, meanwhile, are backwards, violent, and foreign. These are the assumptions that most western news outlets start with..." CONTINUED



(2). “Zionism and the Third Reich”
https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.htm

EXCERPT “In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag, Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. /19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS. /20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs. /21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destrucltion, the SS quickly helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. /22” CONTINUED

 

[buttercup]

Sorry it has taken me so long today to respond and add the additional info to my original post... This is what i read last night in Acts 13:16-41 and then specifically the 16th verse compared with the 26th verse. 16th verse Paul addresses those in the synagogue as "Men of Israel and you God fearing Gentiles, listen to me." Then he gives them a quick history lesson ...God chose our ancestors all the way to Jesus' return after his death, resurrection and ascencion.
THEN, he says, " Brothers-you sons of Abraham and also you God fearing Gentiles...this message of salvation has been sent to us.

There are many, even some christians who criticize all Jews for the troubles of the World, broad brush strokes. In his word it is indicated that God knows who his chosen are even to the End. It seems to me that these two salutations showcase a difference.

These two salutations for me, pinpoint the difference. God knows which are his Chosen among Jews (and gentiles for that matter) and which are not and He always has. 'Men of Israel' whom he addresses first in the synagogue indicates he is talking to everyone including the unchosen...or those that perhaps chose not to believe in the Messiah... in his introduction and short history lesson. THen in 26, he more specifically addresses God fearing Gentiles and Sons of Abraham. THAT SALVATION is reserved for those. The ones on the outside can be received but they have to make that choice. Paul is addressing in 26 those that have made the choice.

Thanks for sharing that. I might be misunderstanding what you're saying... Both the God fearing Gentiles and the "Sons of Abraham" had to make that choice... but it almost sounded like you were saying that only the former has to. I don't want to put words in your mouth though.

In any event... from reading some of your other posts, I can see we disagree on this topic overall. My position on the topic of Israel has changed over the years. I used to hold the same view as you, The Irish Ram, Carl in Michigan and some other Christians here. But a few years ago my view on the modern state of Israel started changing, and especially in the last year or so, as I've been digging deeper into scripture, I've realized that my theology was wrong. But I don't want to take this thread off topic. Like I said, I want to study more and be more prepared before I start a thread on the thing I alluded to yesterday. I think the end times events are going to surprise and shock a lot of Christians, since many mainstream Christians hold that Scofield-influenced theology, which I firmly believe is deeply wrong. But it's OK if we disagree. I think the important thing is that all sincere Christians are open to continually learning and seeking wisdom and revelation.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Thanks for sharing that. I might be misunderstanding what you're saying... Both the God fearing Gentiles and the "Sons of Abraham" had to make that choice... but it almost sounded like you were saying that only the former has to. I don't want to put words in your mouth though.

In any event... from reading some of your other posts, I can see we disagree on this topic overall. My position on the topic of Israel has changed over the years. I used to hold the same view as you, The Irish Ram, Carl in Michigan and some other Christians here. But a few years ago my view on the modern state of Israel started changing, and especially in the last year or so, as I've been digging deeper into scripture, I've realized that my theology was wrong. But I don't want to take this thread off topic. Like I said, I want to study more and be more prepared before I start a thread on the thing I alluded to yesterday. I think the end times events are going to surprise and shock a lot of Christians, since many mainstream Christians hold that Scofield-influenced theology, which I firmly believe is deeply wrong. But it's OK if we disagree. I think the important thing is that all sincere Christians are open to continually learning and seeking wisdom and revelation.

You're going the way of Candice Owens. That isn't a good thing. Conspiracies will do that as you stray down the rabbit hole and stray from the trunk

I hope you find your way back

 

[José]

I'm gonna try to simplify this whole issue and educate the thousands of zionist little babies I had with the female members of the US Message Board over the years:

JGalt, jwoodie, toomuchtime, shockedcanadian, The Duke, Carl in Michigan, Kondor3, Toro, LuckyDuck, Rambunctious, BackAgain, Old Man Clanton, Slow Horses, JohnB, Concerned American, Meathead, Mac-7, wamose, Braalian, sparky, etc, etc...

Practically the whole Board.

It's a tough job but as they say:

A daddy's gotta do what a daddy's gotta do.

 

[José]

I'll make the explanation as short as possible:

First:

Neither Israel nor Iran are democratic states.

Israel is a jewish racial dictatorship and Iran is a religious dictatorship.

Second:

It's true that religious dictatorships are even more oppressive than the secular ones because they interfere with the personal lives of their citizens.

Even taking this fact into consideration, one can't even begin to compare the iranian theocratic dictatorship with a jewish supremacist state in terms of pure evil, moral depravity.

Get back to me the day Iran starts treating millions of Iranian Azeris as 'foreigners' in their own homeland—herding them into ethnic enclaves and enforcing a shoot-to-kill policy against any Azeri who attempts to escape the racial corral.

The day Iran implement this policy I'll have no problem saying the iranian dictatorship is as abominable as the jewish racial dictatorship.

Third:

You don't have to be a Jeffersonian democracy to support the right side in any conflict.

Iran is a theocratic dictatorship that happens to support the right side in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict:

The side of the native population confined to ethnic enclaves like cattle and subjected to an 85-year-old shoot-to-kill policy imposed by a racial dictatorship.

The most famous example in History of a dictatorship supporting the right side in a conflict is the Soviet Union under Stalin:

A totalitarian state fighting a german expansionist, racial dictatorship.

Lastly:

It is in the best interest of mankind that the number of countries possessing nuclear weapons be as low as possible.

On the issue of iranian nukes, the national interest of the jewish racial dictatorship and the best interest of mankind are perfectly aligned.

Denying this fact is absolute insanity.

 

[José]

What are the chances that any of my zionist little babies on the US message board actually learned something from what I said?

Practically zero.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Iran is a theocratic dictatorship that happens to support the right side in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

One of MANY things you're absolutely wrong about

 

[Carl in Michigan]

What are the chances that any of my zionist little babies on the US message board actually learned something from what I said?

Practically zero.

You might want to consider that YOU are in the wrong side, advocating for tyranny

 

[Carl in Michigan]

First:

Neither Israel nor Iran are democratic states

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Israel is a jewish racial dictatorship and Iran is a religious dictatorship

 

[José]

First:

Neither Israel nor Iran are democratic states

JOSÉ

Originally posted by my zionist little baby Carl in Michigan
AI overview
Yes, Israel is generally considered a parliamentary democracy.

As you can all see above, my little Zionist babies from the US Message Board are a never-ending source of headaches for their daddy.

I blame it on my Zionist wives — Shusha, ShahdagMountains, Coyote, Lisa, SassyIrishLass, PoliticalChic, Evilcat Breath, Foxfyre, Sixties Fan, and the rest. While I was off working, they stayed home indoctrinating our little babies — Carl in Michigan, westwall, Whitehall, Dogmaphobe, White 6, Roudy, Polishprince, mudwhistle, Don't Taz Me Bro, martybegan, 1sreluc, justoffal, odanny, Konradv, hmjick, MarathonMike, el midgetron, Meister, and others — with the principles of Israeli Zionism.

Anyway, I chalk this latest trouble caused by my baby Carl in Michigan up to the burdens of fatherhood.

 

[José]

Can a state that treats two million natives as foreigners in their own homeland and confines them to racial enclaves under a shoot-to-kill policy still be considered democratic?

AI:

That’s a powerful and provocative question — and one that strikes at the heart of what it means for a state to call itself democratic — and whether democratic structures can truly exist alongside systemic exclusion and violence.

Historically, there have been cases where governments maintained democratic institutions (like elections and courts) while simultaneously enforcing deeply undemocratic practices against certain populations.

In such contexts, many scholars argue that democracy becomes hollow — functioning in name but not in practice. A state that denies equal rights, freedom of movement, and safety to a segment of its population based on ethnicity or origin is, by most democratic standards, failing to uphold the core principles of equality, representation, and human dignity.

So while a state may retain the form of democracy, its substance is deeply compromised when entire communities are treated as outsiders in their own land.

 

[Shusha]

Can a state that treats two million natives as foreigners in their own homeland and confines them to racial enclaves under a shoot-to-kill policy still be considered democratic?

False input will yield a false response. In order to correct the input, you would need to define what is meant by "two million natives"; refine the meaning of "treat like foreigners"; identify the so-called "racial enclaves"; and provide a reference to the "policy".

 

[gipper]

False input will yield a false response. In order to correct the input, you would need to define what is meant by "two million natives"; refine the meaning of "treat like foreigners"; identify the so-called "racial enclaves"; and provide a reference to the "policy".

Lol. Your mind is so completely unaware of reality, truth is unknown to you.

You’re supporting a fanatical regime committing genocide. You call Palestinians subhumans yet you are inhuman. You’ve lost your humanity.

 

[Zebra]

Can you slaughter helpless babies in Gaza forever and say It's Your fault because your daddy won't give up? God will not be mocked. By anyone.

how was that in WW 2.?