Tears of Jihad, 270 million murdered

[Jos]

slaverty was a world wide trade, look at what the Christian Spanards did to Central American Natives. Nobody is innocent. The tribes of Africa also captured and sold slaves to the Islamic traders. But what is disingenious is your attempt to say this was done by and institution of jihad

Hey I didn't bring it up, take it up with that Iranian Jew hating Hezbollah piece of Shiite called Jos who first brought it up in this thresd so perhaps you and a few others are being disingenuous or should I say hypocritical in attacking me for pointing out the truth?

And Muslims and Islam were as guilty if not guiltiest of slavery compared to others. You heard the story about people in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks, right?

Muslims accuse others of things they are most guilty of. Terror, apartheid, persecution, oppression, corruption, nazi ideology, etc. what else is new? It's called Turnspeak". Look it up.

You started the thread

 

[GHook93]

All were guilty of participating in the slavery trade.

Muslims captured the slaves and took them to the ships.

Christians transported them across the ocean.

Jews organized the auctions and sold them.

Muslims captured and sold them and the slave traders brought them to the New World. The Christians and Jews had no part of it!

 

[eots]

Arab slave trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Arab slave trade was the practice of slavery in the Arab world, mainly in Western Asia, North Africa, East Africa, and certain parts of Europe (such as Iberia and southern Italy) during their period of domination by Arab leaders. The trade was focused on the slave markets of the Middle East, North Africa and the Horn of Africa. People traded were not limited to a certain race, ethnicity, or religion, and included Arabs and Berbers, especially during the trade's early days.
During the 8th and 9th centuries of the Islamic Caliphate, most of the slaves were Slavic Eastern Europeans (called Saqaliba). However, slaves were drawn from a wide variety of regions and included Mediterranean peoples, Persians, Turkic peoples, peoples from the Caucasus mountain regions (such as Georgia, Armenia and Circassia) and parts of Central Asia and Scandinavia, English, Dutch and Irish, Berbers from North Africa, and various other peoples of varied origins as well as those of African origins.

Historians estimate that between 10 and 18 million Africans were enslaved by Arab slave traders and taken across the Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and Sahara desert between 650 and 1900.[2][3][4][5] It should be noted that the term Arab when used in historical documents often represented a cultural term rather than a "racial" term, and many of the "Arab" slave traders such as Tippu Tip and others were indistinguishable from the "Africans" whom they enslaved and sold. Due to the nature of the Arab slave trade it is also impossible to be precise about actual numbers.[6][7][8][9] Many male African slaves were castrated under the belief that the blacks had an uncontrollable sexual drive. Additionally, approximately 11 million African slaves were taken to the Americas however approximately 28 million African slaves were taken during the Arab slave trade. Likewise, more than 2 million Africans died on the ship before reaching the destinations in the Arab world, therefore the slave traders would obtain the same amount of Africans in order to make up for the loss.

20th Century
From approximately 650 until around the 1960s, the Arab slave trade continued in one form or another. Historical accounts and references to slave-owning nobility in Arabia, Yemen and elsewhere are frequent into the early 1920s.[34] In 1953, sheikhs from Qatar attending the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II included slaves in their retinues, and they did so again on another visit five years later.[35]

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[Jos]

Like their Christian and Muslim neighbors, Jews owned slaves and participated in the slave trade. In the middle ages, Jews were minimally involved in slave trade.[1] During the 1490s, trade with the New World began to open up. At the same time, the monarchies of Spain and Portugal expelled all of their Jewish subjects. As a result, Jews began participating in all sorts of trade on the Atlantic, including the slave trade.

Jews and the slave trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sunni Man]

Muslims captured and sold them and the slave traders brought them to the New World. The Christians and Jews had no part of it!

So what religion were the plantation owners in America who bought and worked the slaves? Buddhists??

 

[Roudy]

Muslims killed 80 million Hindus to conquer India

Will Durant, the famous historian summed it up like this:
"The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within."

Koenraad Elst , the german historian writes in "Negation in India"

The Muslim conquests, down to the 16th century, were for the Hindus a pure struggle of life and death. Entire cities were burnt down and the populations massacred, with hundreds of thousands killed in every campaign, and similar numbers deported as slaves. Every new invader made (often literally) his hills of Hindus skulls. Thus, the conquest of Afghanistan in the year 1000 was followed by the annihilation of the Hindu population; the region is still called the Hindu Kush, i.e. Hindu slaughter. The Bahmani sultans (1347-1480) in central India made it a rule to kill 100,000 captives in a single day, and many more on other occasions. The conquest of the Vijayanagar empire in 1564 left the capital plus large areas of Karnataka depopulated. And so on.

As a contribution to research on the quantity of the Islamic crimes against humanity, we may mention that the Indian (subcontinent) population decreased by 80 million between 1000 (conquest of Afghanistan) and 1525 (end of Delhi Sultanate)..

But the Indian Pagans were far too numerous and never fully surrendered. What some call the Muslim period in Indian history, was in reality a continuous war of occupiers against resisters, in which the Muslim rulers were finally defeated in the 18th century. Against these rebellious Pagans the Muslim rulers preferred to avoid total confrontation, and to accept the compromise which the (in India dominant) Hanifite school of Islamic law made possible. Alone among the four Islamic law schools, the school of Hanifa gave Muslim rulers the right not to offer the Pagans the sole choice between death and conversion, but to allow them toleration as zimmis (protected ones) living under 20 humiliating conditions, and to collect the jizya (toleration tax) from them. Normally the zimmi status was only open to Jews and Christians (and even that concession was condemned by jurists of the Hanbalite school like lbn Taymiya), which explains why these communities have survived in Muslim countries while most other religions have not. On these conditions some of the higher Hindu castes could be found willing to collaborate, so that a more or less stable polity could be set up. Even then, the collaboration of the Rajputs with the Moghul rulers, or of the Kayasthas with the Nawab dynasty, one became a smooth arrangement when enlightened rulers like Akbar (whom orthodox Muslims consider an apostate) cancelled these humiliating conditions and the jizya tax.

 

[Roudy]

Bill Warner interview, Feb 2007: "First, let's see how ignorant we are about the history of political Islam. How many Christians can tell you how Turkey or Egypt became Islamic? What happened to the Seven Churches of Asia mentioned in Paul's letters? Find a Jew who can tell you the Jewish history of dhimmitude (second class citizens who serve Islam). What European knows that white women were the highest priced slaves in Mecca? Everyone knows how many Jews Hitler killed, but find an unbeliever who can tell you how many died in jihad over the last 1400 years."
He claims that Islam is the greatest killer of all time, worse than Christianity, fascism or communism:
"Jihad destroyed a Christian Middle East and a Christian North Africa. Soon it was the fate of the Persian Zoroastrian and the Hindu to be the victims of jihad. The history of political Islam is the destruction of Christianity in the Middle East, Egypt, Turkey and North Africa. Half of Christianity was lost. Before Islam, North Africa was the southern part of Europe (part of the Roman Empire). Around 60 million Christians were slaughtered during the jihadic conquest. Half of the glorious Hindu civilization was annihilated and 80 million Hindus killed. The first Western Buddhists were the Greeks descended from Alexander the Great's army in what is now Afghanistan. Jihad destroyed all of Buddhism along the silk route. About 10 million Buddhists died. The conquest of Buddhism is the practical result of pacifism. Zoroastrianism was eliminated from Persia. The Jews became permanent dhimmis throughout Islam. In Africa over 120 million Christians and animists have died over the last 1400 years of jihad. Approximately 270 million nonbelievers died over the last 1400 years for the glory of political Islam. These are the Tears of Jihad which are not taught in any school."

 

[Roudy]

slaverty was a world wide trade, look at what the Christian Spanards did to Central American Natives. Nobody is innocent. The tribes of Africa also captured and sold slaves to the Islamic traders. But what is disingenious is your attempt to say this was done by and institution of jihad

Hey I didn't bring it up, take it up with that Iranian Jew hating Hezbollah piece of Shiite called Jos who first brought it up in this thresd so perhaps you and a few others are being disingenuous or should I say hypocritical in attacking me for pointing out the truth?

And Muslims and Islam were as guilty if not guiltiest of slavery compared to others. You heard the story about people in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks, right?

Muslims accuse others of things they are most guilty of. Terror, apartheid, persecution, oppression, corruption, nazi ideology, etc. what else is new? It's called Turnspeak". Look it up.

You started the thread

Was the thread about slavery, oh Hezbollah pig boy official BJ giver to the Mullahs? Suck suck suck. Suck that Kir.

 

[Roudy]

Muslims captured and sold them and the slave traders brought them to the New World. The Christians and Jews had no part of it!

So what religion were the plantation owners in America who bought and worked the slaves? Buddhists??

Islamic slave trade predates US by about 1200 years. Duh.

Slavery in the Arab WorldMurray Gordon

New Amsterdam Books, New York, NY 1989

In his fact-filled work on the history of the Muslim Arab slave trade in Africa, Murray Gordon notes that this trade pre-dated the European Christian African slave trade by a thousand years and continued for more than a century after the Europeans had abolished the practice. Gordon estimates the number of slaves “harvested” from Black Africa over the period of the Muslim Arab slave trade at 11 million – roughly equal to the number taken by European Christians for their colonies in the New World.

“Despite the long history of slavery in the Arab World and in other Muslim lands, little has been written about this tragedy,” writes Gordon in his introduction. “Except for the few abolitionists, mainly in England, who railed against Arab slavery and put pressure upon Western governments to end the traffic in slaves, the issue has all but been ignored in the West.”

‘Conspiracy of Silence’ on Arab Slave Trade
Gordon decries a “conspiracy of silence. . .[that] has blocked out all light on this sensitive subject.” Among scholars in the Arab world, the author points out, “No moral opprobrium has clung to slavery since it was sanctioned by the Koran and enjoyed an undisputed place in Arab society.”


Racism Toward Black Africans
Some of Gordon’s research disputes the oft-repeated charge that racism did not play a part in Islamic slave society. While it is true that the Muslims of the Middle East took slaves of all colors and ethnicities, they considered white slaves more valuable than black ones and developed racist attitudes toward the darker skinned people.

Even the famous Arab philosopher Ibn Khaldun, expressed racist attitudes toward black Africans: “The only people who accept slavery are the Negroes, owing to their low degree of humanity and their proximity to the animal stage,” Khaldun wrote. Another Arab writer, of the 14th Century, asked: “Is there anything more vile than black slaves, of less good and more evil than they?”

 

[Roudy]

The Injustices that happened in the past we cannot change, we can only change what is happening now and influence the future, hopefully a future without Zionism

How about we start with you asshole Muslimes at least owning up to your past and current injustices?

 

[Sunni Man]

How about we start with you Muslimes at least owning up to your past and current injustices?

Exactly what do you want them to do?

 

[Roudy]

How about we start with you Muslimes at least owning up to your past and current injustices?

Exactly what do you want them to do?

In your case a good start would be stop the Holocaust denying.

 

[Hossfly]

While slavery was practiced by many, Muslims practically invented its trade.

That is a very silly statement.

The Greeks, Romans, and even the Jews, had an active slave trade as part of their economy.

Well over a thousand years before there ever was a religion called Islam or people known as Muslims.

Here's a little background on Islam and slave trading

Muslim Black slavery – Islam slave history of Black Africa | FaithFreedom.org

jt2

 

[Roudy]

While slavery was practiced by many, Muslims practically invented its trade.

That is a very silly statement.

The Greeks, Romans, and even the Jews, had an active slave trade as part of their economy.

Well over a thousand years before there ever was a religion called Islam or people known as Muslims.

Here's a little background on Islam and slave trading

Muslim Black slavery – Islam slave history of Black Africa | FaithFreedom.org

jt2

Very interesting:

Slavery

You do not know the history of slavery if you do not know about Islam and slavery. Slavery is a very important and is part of a highly developed doctrine in Islam. It has a 1400 year old history which is still alive today in Africa. Mohammed was a slaver who dealt in every aspect of slavery. It is impossible to study the history of Mohammed and the beginnings of Islam and not become involved in the role of slavery. The politically correct version of slavery is that it only happened when white men showed up in wooden ships off the coast of Africa, went into the bush, captured slaves and brought them back to sell in America. That is the generally accepted history of slavery in America.

That does contain an element of truth but it's not remotely the story of world slavery, or even how slave trading worked in the Americas. To study slavery from the standpoint of the world, you must study Islam because Islam has enslaved all others - the African, the European, the Asian - they have enslaved everybody. Francis Bok, a Christian, appeared at a university to give a talk. It was very interesting because he was an actual freed African slave. He and his sister had gone to the market to sell beans and while they were in the market place, Muslim Jihadis showed up. They captured his sister and him along with others and set out on a forced march. Every night his sister was raped by the members of the troop. When they finally got to the jihadis' camp, they were put on the block and sold as slaves. Once Francis was sold, he was taken to the new master's home. He was placed in the center of the family and every member of the family took a small stick and began to beat him with it. Then they informed him that he no longer had any name. From this day forward there was no more Francis Bok. There was only Abd - A-B-D - black slave.

Now this is interesting. Abd is an Arabic word but it's only one of about forty different words that Islam has for a slave. That's very interesting because in the English language we simply have one word - slave. Now ask yourself a question. Why would the Arabic language have so many words for slave? Abd means black slave and an African. Think about that for a moment. Abd means both black slave and African. There is an entire history in those two meanings.

There's a word for white slave--mamluk. There's a word for a Hindu slave. Perhaps you're beginning to gain some idea that over a long period of time Arabs have had a lot to do with the slave trade because you don't change a language over night. It takes a long time to accumulate 40 words for a slave.

 

[Sunni Man]

How about we start with you Muslimes at least owning up to your past and current injustices?

Exactly what do you want them to do?

In your case a good start would be stop the Holocaust denying.

Sorry, but I just can't seem to buy into the Holohoax fantasy story.

 

[Roudy]

Exactly what do you want them to do?

In your case a good start would be stop the Holocaust denying.

Sorry, but I just can't seem to buy into the Holohoax fantasy story.

You asked what Muslims can do, and I gave you one example. That's like a baby step for anybody who wants to be considered sane. Its not my problem you insist on being a moron. Maybe you should reconsider your conversion to Islam? It seems like you have no idea of the shit you entered into. Don't worry, here in the US they won't kill you for converting out of Islam, as is the usual case in Muslim countries.

 

[Hossfly]

While slavery was practiced by many, Muslims practically invented its trade.

That is a very silly statement.

The Greeks, Romans, and even the Jews, had an active slave trade as part of their economy.

Well over a thousand years before there ever was a religion called Islam or people known as Muslims.

Here's a little background on Islam and slave trading

Muslim Black slavery – Islam slave history of Black Africa | FaithFreedom.org

jt2

And here's some more input about Muslim-African slavery and a host of other facets of the 'peaceful' religion.

An African Asks Some Disturbing Questions of Islam


jt2

 

[Roudy]

That is a very silly statement.

The Greeks, Romans, and even the Jews, had an active slave trade as part of their economy.

Well over a thousand years before there ever was a religion called Islam or people known as Muslims.

Here's a little background on Islam and slave trading

Muslim Black slavery – Islam slave history of Black Africa | FaithFreedom.org

jt2

And here's some more input about Muslim-African slavery and a host of other facets of the 'peaceful' religion.

An African Asks Some Disturbing Questions of Islam


jt2

Where ever there is Islam, there is murder, mayhem, terror, oppression, corruption, theivery, persecution, and hate.

 

[koshergrl]

Stand by for left wing extremist justifications...

We deserve to be killed cuz of *THE CRUSADES* and *THE INQUISITION*.

None of them really know what those things are, or what the head count was, or anything else...but they do know that if it weren't for (insert dramatic musical score here) *THE CRUSADES* and *THE INQUISITION* Islam would be our friend.

 

[Sunni Man]

In your case a good start would be stop the Holocaust denying.

Sorry, but I just can't seem to buy into the Holohoax fantasy story.

You asked what Muslims can do, and I gave you one example. That's like a baby step for anybody who wants to be considered sane.

So in your opinion, if we accept the Holocaust myth as a fact; then everything will be great?

Would we also be required to believe in the Loch Ness Monster and Big Foot??