Teaching masturbation in schools

[chanel]

Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders

Comments Regarding the Teaching of Masturbation in Schools

United Nation Conference on AIDS

December 1, 1994

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I think you already know that I'm a very strong advocate of a comprehensive health education program if you will, starting at a very early age. I feel that it should be age appropriate, it should be complete, and we need to teach our children the things that they need to know. And we know that many of our parents have difficulty teaching certain things. And for that reason, to make sure all of our children are informed, I've always felt that we should make it a part of our school. I feel it's the only institution we have where all of the children go. And at present in our schools, it's very incomplete, and only 5 percent of schools have a comprehensive program.

As per your specific question in regard to masturbation, I think that is something that is a part of human sexuality and it's a part of something that perhaps should be taught. But we've not even taught our children the very basics. And I feel that we have tried ignorance for a very long time, and it's time we tried education.Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders
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WASHINGTON, September 23, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Pro-family advocates Tuesday celebrated the news that Planned Parenthood Columbia-Willamette took down the videos on the lewd TakeCareDownThere.com web site that was first launched in July.

The video site, which Planned Parenthood marketed as "sex education," included skits of two teenage boys engaged in oral sex, girls and boys examining each other's reproductive organs, and couples talking about participating in orgies and masturbation, among others. Pornographic Planned Parenthood Videos Taken Off Site after Protests

Planned Parenthood pushes the limit on sex ed. "Comprehensive" includes masturbation as well as oral sex. Not appropriate for kids in my opinion.

 

[dilloduck]

I think as opposed to teaching how to do in schools it certainly could be "destigmatized" and brought "out of the closet" as it were. Everyone does it yet we treat it as something that only sick, sex deprived perverts engage in. I don't think we've progessed very far from the "going blind" and "hairy palms" myths. Do people feel so guilty about masturbating that they must mock others that do ?

 

[Liability]

I think as opposed to teaching how to do in schools it certainly could be "destigmatized" and brought "out of the closet" as it were. Everyone does it yet we treat it as something that only sick, sex deprived perverts engage in. I don't think we've progessed very far from the "going blind" and "hairy palms" myths. Do people feel so guilty about masturbating that they must mock others that do ?

Did you get that palm brush yert?

How do you damage your sex life? Applause! TAI.

 

[Sarah G]

One thing I have noticed in this thread is that many of those who are whining about the no link thing, are also those who coin the phrase "if it's on the internet it must be true" ... This is a sad testament to one problem with America right now, people no longer live their lives in reality.

She not only has to provide a link for this one, it has to be credible.. This is quite a charge to just offhandedly comment about.

You do realize there is no link for about 95% of real life, and only about 25% of all published materials are online now. Consider this thread an experiment, one which demonstrated that people no longer care about anything unless it's "online" ... the dumbing down of America is complete I guess. This is why our country is failing, also why people no longer think for themselves or utilize logic anymore, they just look for links.

Ridiculous. It can be proven whether teaching masterbation to school kids is up for a vote in South Dakota with a link.

 

[Ravi]

If KK reads something on a message board she believes it, as long as it fits in with her confirmation bias.

 

[jillian]

You do realize there is no link for about 95% of real life, and only about 25% of all published materials are online now. Consider this thread an experiment, one which demonstrated that people no longer care about anything unless it's "online" ... the dumbing down of America is complete I guess. This is why our country is failing, also why people no longer think for themselves or utilize logic anymore, they just look for links.

She was the one who said it was from a newspaper article. Either there IS such an article or there isn't.

if there isn't, then she's a liar...

and all she had to say was the subject interested her rather than pretending there is some type of vote going on and we can't access the articles because you have to pay for them. (which isn't true as both ravi and i learned).

 

[dilloduck]

I think as opposed to teaching how to do in schools it certainly could be "destigmatized" and brought "out of the closet" as it were. Everyone does it yet we treat it as something that only sick, sex deprived perverts engage in. I don't think we've progessed very far from the "going blind" and "hairy palms" myths. Do people feel so guilty about masturbating that they must mock others that do ?

Did you get that palm brush yert?

How do you damage your sex life? Applause! TAI.

My eyes have gone bad---I can't find it.

 

[KittenKoder]

She not only has to provide a link for this one, it has to be credible.. This is quite a charge to just offhandedly comment about.

You do realize there is no link for about 95% of real life, and only about 25% of all published materials are online now. Consider this thread an experiment, one which demonstrated that people no longer care about anything unless it's "online" ... the dumbing down of America is complete I guess. This is why our country is failing, also why people no longer think for themselves or utilize logic anymore, they just look for links.

Ridiculous. It can be proven whether teaching masterbation to school kids is up for a vote in South Dakota with a link.

Chanel just posted links proving at the least the strong possibility. The problem you are missing, as I said, only 20% of published material can be found online. One big reason this number stays almost constant is because many media sources will not post the stories online until they milk it, even our local TV stations will not post a news story online until an average of 24 hours after the first time it airs, but everyone is so stuck online and not living real life that people actually believe the news links on here are "breaking news" when in reality, most are long since aired or published.

 

[xotoxi]

I wish that I had been taught masturbation in school.

It's a really difficult skill to pick up...and I never felt that I mastured it.

 

[Sarah G]

You do realize there is no link for about 95% of real life, and only about 25% of all published materials are online now. Consider this thread an experiment, one which demonstrated that people no longer care about anything unless it's "online" ... the dumbing down of America is complete I guess. This is why our country is failing, also why people no longer think for themselves or utilize logic anymore, they just look for links.

Ridiculous. It can be proven whether teaching masterbation to school kids is up for a vote in South Dakota with a link.

Chanel just posted links proving at the least the strong possibility. The problem you are missing, as I said, only 20% of published material can be found online. One big reason this number stays almost constant is because many media sources will not post the stories online until they milk it, even our local TV stations will not post a news story online until an average of 24 hours after the first time it airs, but everyone is so stuck online and not living real life that people actually believe the news links on here are "breaking news" when in reality, most are long since aired or published.

There is a problem but I am not the one missing it. Posters have to be able to decide whether or not to believe some anonymous claim on a message board. If you make a statement and provide a link which gives your reasons for believing what you posted, it gives the reader a chance to at least decide whether the source is credible to them.

If you make a statement and leave it at that some people, like me in this case, will decide that you are full of shit and say so. You can say no I'm not but so what.

 

[Liability]

I wish that I had been taught masturbation in school.

It's a really difficult skill to pick up...and I never felt that I mastured it.

Really? Maybe I misunderstood. I've heard tons of people say that you are a world class jerk off.
















j/k

 

[chanel]

I think as opposed to teaching how to do in schools it certainly could be "destigmatized" and brought "out of the closet" as it were. Everyone does it yet we treat it as something that only sick, sex deprived perverts engage in. I don't think we've progessed very far from the "going blind" and "hairy palms" myths. Do people feel so guilty about masturbating that they must mock others that do ?

True but isn't there a happy medium between "taboo" and private? We don't have to be ashamed of getting a period or taking a crap, but we also don't have to discuss it with strangers in a classroom or in our job. There's so little discretion anymore esp.amongst young people.

 

[manifold]

A show of hands please.

How many here have concluded the the claim in the OP is complete and total bullshit?

*raises hand*

 

[manifold]

And why was my Pelosi thread deleted yet this one is allowed to remain?

It's not like this one is ANY more credible.

 

[KittenKoder]

Ridiculous. It can be proven whether teaching masterbation to school kids is up for a vote in South Dakota with a link.

Chanel just posted links proving at the least the strong possibility. The problem you are missing, as I said, only 20% of published material can be found online. One big reason this number stays almost constant is because many media sources will not post the stories online until they milk it, even our local TV stations will not post a news story online until an average of 24 hours after the first time it airs, but everyone is so stuck online and not living real life that people actually believe the news links on here are "breaking news" when in reality, most are long since aired or published.

There is a problem but I am not the one missing it. Posters have to be able to decide whether or not to believe some anonymous claim on a message board. If you make a statement and provide a link which gives your reasons for believing what you posted, it gives the reader a chance to at least decide whether the source is credible to them.

If you make a statement and leave it at that some people, like me in this case, will decide that you are full of shit and say so. You can say no I'm not but so what.

However, almost everything posted anywhere is as reliable as it. That's another problem. People think that their favorite resources are more honest or reliable, but in reality they are not. Even main stream media has proven to be full of a lot of bull. Thus is why message boards and chats are so important to the internet, it allows for the collection of many resources to come together and discuss it, eventually a grain of truth comes out. But even then, too many people rely on the internet for everything, when most of it just like Wicrapedia ... any nutjob with a keyboard can post stuff as "fact", but you have to go into real life to find out if it actually is.

 

[vincubus]

up until the 1850s, most of american kids were taught at home (homeschooled) and also most of america was agrarain, and so there were plenty of opportunities to discuss sex ed when farm animals would get pregnant or be seen "rutting" and because both mom and dad were often around.

the job of educating our yoiung has been taken over by the various municipalities ( i use the term "educating" loosely). now, since it is almost the absolute that two parent income is a must, there is little time for mom and dad to spend with their "git". because of neo-calvanism, we are loath to tell our kids aboiut sex between two ppl, never mind masturbation, which is often seen as even more dirty and sinful than sexual congress. i dont blame school districts for covering the sexual aspects of humans, although i am somewhat surprised that planned parenthood is involved, since its founder was a proponent of eugenics, wanting blacks, chinese and the irish to be sterilized to extinction.

and as has been said, when it comes to sex, many parents are neglectful, not telling their kids, and then punishing their kids when they do become pregnant. we cannot have it both ways.

 

[Sarah G]

I wish that I had been taught masturbation in school.

It's a really difficult skill to pick up...and I never felt that I mastured it.

Really? Maybe I misunderstood. I've heard tons of people say that you are a world class jerk off.
















j/k

Hey, XO has worked very hard for that title..

 

[Sarah G]

And why was my Pelosi thread deleted yet this one is allowed to remain?

It's not like this one is ANY more credible.

Mani, that beastiality thread was much worse than this one.

 

[vincubus]

A show of hands please.

How many here have concluded the the claim in the OP is complete and total bullshit?

*raises hand*

i remember reading about masturbation being taught in schools as a potential. i just dont remember where. of couirse i understand how you would call BS, since i am not john makolvich

 

[manifold]

And why was my Pelosi thread deleted yet this one is allowed to remain?

It's not like this one is ANY more credible.

Mani, that beastiality thread was much worse than this one.

I disagree. At least that one was obviously satirical. This one is a total lie, but crafted to sound believable. IMO that's worse.