'Taxing the Rich'

[daveman]

That's not what we do. We take money from people like me to pay YOUR salary.

...which I earned. (I retired as of March first.) It's funny how leftist morons such as yourself conflate military members with welfare recipients. And by "funny", I mean "stupid and pathetic".

I know it really pisses you off that the United States even has a military, but you're just going to have to put on your big boy pants and get over it.

No, I'm pointing out that most of our tax money goes to people who WORK for the government (directly or indirectly).

Very little of it goes to people who don't work, or, as you put it, who didn't earn it.

So you are simply mathematically wrong by a mile. That's all I was pointing out.

And of course, you're counting welfare recipients as "indirectly working for the government".

 

[NYcarbineer]

Actually no. If the capital gains rate were the same as earned income, we could cut the top tax bracket rate significantly, at least to 30%, maybe more.




When you're ready to talk about policy specifics instead of regurgitating cheap right wing bumper sticker slogans let me know.

Don't invest anything valuable in that expectation.

What's your DU username?

Davemans_My_Bitch

 

[daveman]

...which I earned. (I retired as of March first.) It's funny how leftist morons such as yourself conflate military members with welfare recipients. And by "funny", I mean "stupid and pathetic".

I know it really pisses you off that the United States even has a military, but you're just going to have to put on your big boy pants and get over it.

NYCuminhisrear loves to piss on the military. It's his favorite hobby.

I was veteran when you were still learning how to suck cock, fatso.

Whew! I thought I was going to miss my daily dose of leftist homophobia. Thanks for hookin' me up, Carby!

 

[NYcarbineer]

...which I earned. (I retired as of March first.) It's funny how leftist morons such as yourself conflate military members with welfare recipients. And by "funny", I mean "stupid and pathetic".

I know it really pisses you off that the United States even has a military, but you're just going to have to put on your big boy pants and get over it.

No, I'm pointing out that most of our tax money goes to people who WORK for the government (directly or indirectly).

Very little of it goes to people who don't work, or, as you put it, who didn't earn it.

So you are simply mathematically wrong by a mile. That's all I was pointing out.

And of course, you're counting welfare recipients as "indirectly working for the government".

No, you can count them in your column. How much federal money goes to welfare, compared to how much goes into defense?

 

[elvis]

NYCuminhisrear loves to piss on the military. It's his favorite hobby.

I was veteran when you were still learning how to suck cock, fatso.

Whew! I thought I was going to miss my daily dose of leftist homophobia. Thanks for hookin' me up, Carby!

Remember this?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-flame-zone/141478-hey-nycuminhisrear.html

 

[daveman]

Don't invest anything valuable in that expectation.

What's your DU username?

Davemans_My_Bitch

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Still a lying sack of crap, I see. Some things never change.

 

[Cecilie1200]

First of all, your claim is false, moreover it is spurious. Americans have greater purchasing power now than they did in the 90's, which is powerful considering the massive decline in 2008-09.

I never said otherwise. All I said was that the reason the rich pay more in taxes now is because they make more money.

10% is 10% sparky, I think you can grasp this.

I'm sorry, but I pay my taxes in dollars, not %'s. If I pay $2000 in taxes and you pay $1000 - I have paid an unequal amount compared to you, and hence, according to you, unconstitutional.

You DO know there's no correlation between font size and intelligence of content, right? No matter how big your letters are, your words are still going to be full of shit.

 

[daveman]

No, I'm pointing out that most of our tax money goes to people who WORK for the government (directly or indirectly).

Very little of it goes to people who don't work, or, as you put it, who didn't earn it.

So you are simply mathematically wrong by a mile. That's all I was pointing out.

And of course, you're counting welfare recipients as "indirectly working for the government".

No, you can count them in your column. How much federal money goes to welfare, compared to how much goes into defense?

And now you're bitching (impotently, as always) about defense spending.

Don't worry, kid. There are still men and women with the courage to protect you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It takes all of our personal income taxes just to pay for the military and the interest on the debt.

 

[Cecilie1200]

For most industries, the receipts allowed while still meeting the criteria are in the millions.

Income tax isn't levied on gross receipts, its levied on net profits
The average small business owner makes around 250k in net PROFIT, not receipts.

Wow, that has exactly ****-all to do with either the topic OR what I said. Amazing how you can so firmly and definitively contradict points no one is making about discussions no one is having.

Now perhaps you can actually address my post?

 

[daveman]

I was veteran when you were still learning how to suck cock, fatso.

Whew! I thought I was going to miss my daily dose of leftist homophobia. Thanks for hookin' me up, Carby!

Remember this?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-flame-zone/141478-hey-nycuminhisrear.html

Yeah. What a sack of shit he is.

 

[daveman]

It takes all of our personal income taxes just to pay for the military and the interest on the debt.

Then quit supporting politicians who spend more money than we take in, you damn moron.

You don't like the debt? All you're doing is making it go up.

 

[Bern80]

It'll never be enough, will it? Obama wants to raise the marginal tax rate up to about 40%, so revenue goes up about 70 bilion/yr, if that. Well whoop-de-fuckin'-do, out of a 1.6 trillion deficit this year now we're down to 1.53 trillion, boy that really helped. And he wants to raise the Medicare tax rate and the ceiling for Social Security, and who knows what else. You want this, raise taxes on the rich to pay for it. You want that, raise taxes on the rich to pay for it. Do you not know that if we took every frickin' dime they made this year it still wouldn't cover the deficit?

What would this country be like if we raised taxes back to 90%? You really think thise rich people are just going to quietly pay it? You don't think they'll park it offshore by any means, legal or otherwise? Where the blue blazes **** do you think you're going to get entrepeneurs, innovators, and new investors if the tax rate is so high that it literally ain't worth it to do business here? Do you not realize we live in a global economy, and if foreign investors can't make enough money here cuz of the fuckin' tax rates that you dumb bozos want to raise that they'll go elsewhere? And American investors with wealth will do the same. You really want to be a bigger Greece? Well if we followed your path that's where we'd end up.

I really am starting to think this boils down to more of a financial illiteracy problem than anything. And the lefties, at least of this board, seem to be chronically financially illiterate. There has to be some fundamental disconnect between what people are taxed and what government does that they just don't get. They have no concept of living within one's means.

WE HAVE A 14 TRILLION DOLLAR DEBT. Politics aside, that means we are spending far, far, far more than we are taking in. Even if we someone all got on the same page and agreed that everything government is doing now is everything it should be doing, we still have to be financially responsible enough as a government and a country to fund these things in a financially sound manner. We aren't doing that now. We are borrowing and borrowing a lot. We are so far in debt the interest alone on the debt as increasing faster than we can pay it down. We aren't even touching the debet at this point. So something has to give. Either government has to spend less, and a lot less, which will take a fundamental redifinitino of the roll of government in society, OR we have to tax everyone more..... a LOT more.

There you go, right on the button: " OR we have to tax everyone more..... a LOT more ", not just the rich people, but everybody. There is no politician today that I know of who will advocate raising taxes on EVERYBODY. Ain't going to happen even if somebody did propose it. So the lefties scream and holler about the rich people and the income inequality, " look at those greedy bastards, let's make them pay for everything! ". But it ain't going to be enough, nowhere near enough but they try to distract and confuse the public with this class warfare rhetoric instead of working with the GOP in a constructive manner to address the REAL problem, which is too ******* much spending.

Like I said, the left is comprised of financial retards. This isn't really a political problem, it's a math problem and a lot of people on this board have flunked the class.

 

[midcan5]

Why do conservatives and libertarians cry for the rich, do you really think they need your tears? Or your assist? The well to do should pay their fair share, they do fine and since they benefit most from the society that supports them and from the consumers, each of us, who are the primary support of a robust economy, they too should pay, not hide behind you wingnuts and your inane analogies which ignore reality.

We don't cry for them. We simply abhore the likes of people like you that think you are entitled to their money simply because they have more of it.

Then why are they always on your mind and in your thoughts? Some sort of brain washing? Why not consider the poor or out of work too? Seems crying fits well when you constantly have to defend what is indefensible and immoral in a fair and just world.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

For most industries, the receipts allowed while still meeting the criteria are in the millions.

Income tax isn't levied on gross receipts, its levied on net profits
The average small business owner makes around 250k in net PROFIT, not receipts.

Wow, that has exactly ****-all to do with either the topic OR what I said. Amazing how you can so firmly and definitively contradict points no one is making about discussions no one is having.

Now perhaps you can actually address my post?

I already did dumbass!!

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

First of all, your claim is false, moreover it is spurious. Americans have greater purchasing power now than they did in the 90's, which is powerful considering the massive decline in 2008-09.

I never said otherwise. All I said was that the reason the rich pay more in taxes now is because they make more money.

10% is 10% sparky, I think you can grasp this.

I'm sorry, but I pay my taxes in dollars, not %'s. If I pay $2000 in taxes and you pay $1000 - I have paid an unequal amount compared to you, and hence, according to you, unconstitutional.

You DO know there's no correlation between font size and intelligence of content, right? No matter how big your letters are, your words are still going to be full of shit.

And you'll still be a dirty whore

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Rather hypocritical of you, isn't it? You want to tax the doctor and businessman who make a million a year AND the investor far more than Republicans want

Actually no. If the capital gains rate were the same as earned income, we could cut the top tax bracket rate significantly, at least to 30%, maybe more.

...except you wouldn't. Hey, they can afford it, right?

If you continue insist on determining my opinions for me rather than allowing me to form them myself, there will be no point in conversing with you.

Tell me: After you've run out of other people's money to be generous with, what are you going to spend?

When you're ready to talk about policy specifics instead of regurgitating cheap right wing bumper sticker slogans let me know.

That particularly amusing, coming from you, Mr. Tax The Rich. [/QUOTE]
Its your slogan, not mine.

 

[daveman]

I never said otherwise. All I said was that the reason the rich pay more in taxes now is because they make more money.




I'm sorry, but I pay my taxes in dollars, not %'s. If I pay $2000 in taxes and you pay $1000 - I have paid an unequal amount compared to you, and hence, according to you, unconstitutional.

You DO know there's no correlation between font size and intelligence of content, right? No matter how big your letters are, your words are still going to be full of shit.

And you'll still be a dirty whore

How can you tell when a leftist is getting his ass kicked in a discussion?

He busts out the misogyny or homophobia.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm sorry, but I pay my taxes in dollars, not %'s.

The IRS charges you based on a percentage.

If I pay $2000 in taxes and you pay $1000 - I have paid an unequal amount compared to you, and hence, according to you, unconstitutional.

What a childish and idiotic attempt.

What if gas stations charged $4 a gallon for white cars, $6 a gallon for black cars and $8 a gallon for red cars? Would that be okay? After all, the guy in the SUV with a 30 gallon tank pays more than the gal with the Civic and a 12 gallon tank.

 

[daveman]

Actually no. If the capital gains rate were the same as earned income, we could cut the top tax bracket rate significantly, at least to 30%, maybe more.

...except you wouldn't. Hey, they can afford it, right?

If you continue insist on determining my opinions for me rather than allowing me to form them myself, there will be no point in conversing with you.

Take a guess at how heartbroken I'd be.

That particularly amusing, coming from you, Mr. Tax The Rich.

Its your slogan, not mine.

Actually, no, it's the slogan of leftists who feel all self-righteous for being generous with other people's money.