Tahrir Square Rape celebration

[waltky]

What a pig...

Journalist Nir Rosen quits after 'insensitive and offensive' Lara Logan tweets
February 17, 2011 * Journalist posted shameful tweets * Called beaten reporter "war monger" * Takes to Twitter to apologise

A JOURNALIST who tweeted derogatory comments about CBS reporter Lara Logan as the news of her assault in Egypt was breaking has been shamed into resigning. "Jesus Christ, at a moment when she is going to become a martyr and glorified we should at least remember her role as a major war monger," Nir Rosen wrote on Twitter. He later added, "Look, she was probably groped like thousands of other women."

Logan has now returned home, after being discharged from an unnamed hospital on Tuesday afternoon (local time). The Daily Beast reports she is in "remarkably good spirits" as she recuperates at her home with her husband and children, after the horrific attack. CBS has said the reporter was in Cairo on Friday when she, her team and their security "were surrounded by a dangerous element amidst the celebration". Logan suffered "a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating", CBS said. She was saved by a group of women and an estimated 20 Egyptian soldiers, the network said.

Rosen resigned from his fellowship at New York University's Centre on Law and Security. He also took to Twitter to apologise. "As someone who's devoted his career to defending victims and supporting justice, I'm very ashamed for my insensitive and offensive comments," he wrote. Reached by email on Wednesday, Rosen did not immediately respond to questions about his Twitter posts.

As a fellow at the Centre on Law and Security, he had a salary and a work space. The centre's executive director, Karen J Greenberg, said today that she had accepted Rosen's resignation. "Nir Rosen is always provocative, but he crossed the line with his comments about Lara Logan," Ms Greenberg said. "I am deeply distressed by what he wrote about Ms Logan and strongly denounce his comments. They were cruel and insensitive and completely unacceptable."

Read more: Journalist Nir Rosen quits after 'insensitive and offensive' Lara Logan tweets | News.com.au

See also:

Egyptian women's issues highlighted by Logan case
Feb 16,`11 -- For a moment, it seemed Egypt wasn't just throwing off its political shackles. Women long suffering from the scourge of sexual harassment reported Cairo's Tahrir Square, command central of the uprising, had become a safe zone free of the groping and leering common in their country.

Now the reported attack on a senior U.S. television correspondent during the final night of the 18-day revolt has shown that the threat of violence against women in Egypt remains very real. CBS has said its chief foreign correspondent, Lara Logan, went through a "brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating" by a frenzied mob in the square during Friday's celebrations of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's ouster. The Associated Press does not name victims of sexual assault unless the victim agrees to be identified.

Logan was released from a U.S. hospital and was recovering Wednesday in her Washington-area home, as her story raised issues often left unaddressed in the Middle East. On Wednesday, a White House official speaking on the condition of anonymity said President Barack Obama spoke with Logan on the telephone without disclosing details of the conversation.

An Egyptian security official said he was unaware of any investigation into the attack on Logan. He noted that police were pulled off the streets on Jan. 28, three days after the outbreak of the protests, and haven't returned, with the exception of traffic police. The American network has said Logan, her team and their security "were surrounded by a dangerous element amidst the celebration." During the uprising, anti-government protesters in Tahrir Square had been largely peaceful, except when coming under attack by police or pro-Mubarak gangs trying to break up the large crowds. The pro-government forces also beat and harassed dozens of foreigners, including reporters and photographers.

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[Intense]

Merged.

 

[Zander]

Islam does nothing to protect women in the case of rape - instead it blames the woman for being alone.

Are you joking? Did you read them? The third fatwa is the only one which mentions being alone and even it affirms that there is no punishment for the victim and lists the punishments for rapists. You are delusional.

Come out of the 7th century.

Educate yourself.

You believe that a diety named ALLAH is going to reward you in the afterlife and you have the nerve to call me delusional. Really, that is simply too rich.

Here in the real world - Islam's record on Women's rights speaks for itself. It is atrocious.

 

[Kalam]

You believe that a diety named ALLAH is going to reward you in the afterlife and you have the nerve to call me delusional. Really, that is simply too rich.

Is this supposed to make me angry? What a diaphanous attempt to draw attention away from your attempt to misrepresent the information I posted.

Here in the real world - Islam's record on Women's rights speaks for itself. It is atrocious.

And here you imply that every crime committed in a region can be ascribed to the dominant religion there. Brilliant.

 

[Zander]

You believe that a diety named ALLAH is going to reward you in the afterlife and you have the nerve to call me delusional. Really, that is simply too rich.

Is this supposed to make me angry? What a diaphanous attempt to draw attention away from your attempt to misrepresent the information I posted.

Here in the real world - Islam's record on Women's rights speaks for itself. It is atrocious.

And here you imply that every crime committed in a region can be ascribed to the dominant religion there. Brilliant.

I did not imply anything - it was Muslims who committed the violent act against this woman. That is beyond dispute. Does that mean all Muslims are violent? Of course not. But to pretend that Islam treats women fairly is an insult to any intelligent person. Islam views women as little more than chattel.

As for your "facts" - Islam has literally millions of interpretations and a fatwah is not a LAW - it is an opinion. Bin Laden has issued 3 "fatwahs" for Muslims to take up arms against the United States. Is that the LAW now??

Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of Islam knows that there are completely different rules and Fatwah's (opinions) depending upon the country, the region, the particular sect etc... SO your "fatwahs" are not proof - they are opinion. That leaves us with relying upon what the sharia courts (sic) actually do and the words of the Qur'an and other "holy" books.

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (2:282) - Establishes that a woman's testimony is worth only half that of a man's in court (there is no "he said/she said" gridlock in Islam).

Qur'an (24:4) - "And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses (to adultery), flog them..."

Qur'an (24:13) - "Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah."

Qur'an (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..." There is no such thing as rape in marriage, as a man is permitted unrestricted sexual access to his wives.

From the Hadith:

Bukhari (5:59:462) - The background for the Qur'anic requirement of four witnesses to adultery. Muhammad's favorite wife, Aisha, was accused of cheating [on her polygamous husband]. Three witnesses corroborated the event, but Muhammad did not want to believe it, and so established the arbitrary rule that four witnesses are required.

The sad reality is that Rape is virtually impossible to prove under Islamic law (Sharia) - even in more moderate countries. If the man claims that the act was consensual sex, there is very little that the woman can do to refute this. Islam places the burden of avoiding sexual encounters of any sort on the woman.

Feel free to "sell crazy" somewhere else.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,


1. Zander you are correct in everything, and Islam is worthless dung, meant for the dung pile.
2. Actually dung is better than Islam, at least its useful to fertilize the crops.
3. Islam has no use, none.
4. This reporter should not of been raped, and didn't deserve this, and the people of Egypt are *ALL* to blame, and when things really get bad there this summer, let them remember this act, during the end of their old leader, and the standing up of a new one in the future, same as the old boss, you wait and see.
5. And when the people of Egypt, all start to starve this summer, fuck em!


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[waltky]

Zander:

... anything in the Quran or Hadith `bout hypocracy?

Granny'd like to send it to dat Amerdinerjab fella.

 

[probus]

let's see u guys make something out of what u are being handed because of American largesse and intervention-- u guys were like a ripe egg ready to be fertilized-- Regards, probus

 

[52ndStreet]

(CBSNews) On Friday February 11, the day Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak stepped down, CBS correspondent Lara Logan was covering the jubilation in Tahrir Square for a 60 MINUTES story when she and her team and their security were surrounded by a dangerous element amidst the celebration. It was amob of more than 200 people whipped into frenzy.
In the crush of the mob, she was separated from her crew. She wassurrounded and suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault andbeating before being saved by a group of women and an estimated 20Egyptian soldiers. She reconnected with the CBS team, returned to herhotel and returned to the United States on the first flight the nextmorning. She is currently in the hospital recovering.

There will be no further comment from CBS News and Correspondent Loganand her family respectfully request privacy at this time.

CBS News' Lara Logan Assaulted During Egypt Protests - 60 Minutes - CBS News

Who are you Fitnah to take over my post !?
52nd Street.
Why don't you think of your own news items to post?.!!

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Check yourself before you wreck yourself.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/3324751-post1.html

 

[hjmick]

A very good opinion piece in the Boston Herald today:

CBS complicit in news coverup
By Michael Graham
Thursday, February 17, 2011

Dateline — Egypt:

“[60 Minutes] correspondent Lara Logan was repeatedly sexually assaulted by thugs yelling, ‘Jew! Jew!’ as she covered the chaotic fall of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in Cairo’s main square Friday.”

Powerful reporting on an important story. Two problems: It didn’t run until yesterday, and CBS didn’t run it. The quote is from the New York Post. And it was The Wall Street Journal that reported “the separation and assault lasted roughly 20 to 30 minutes.”

But CBS? They sat on their own story. For five days, as reporters reveled amid giddy celebrations in Tahrir Square, and as President Obama praised President Obama’s handling of the Egyptian crisis, CBS reported nothing...

How is that not news?

Some women journalists, like WGBH’s Callie Crossley, complain that CBS should never have reported the story, that Logan should be treated like a rape victim in the United States. But I’m with liberal columnist Richard Cohen of The Washington Post:

“The sexual assault of a woman in the middle of a public square is a story... particularly because the crowd in Tahrir Square was almost invariably characterized as friendly and out for nothing but democracy,” Cohen wrote.

Watching the same complicit media we all saw, Cohen notes most journalists covered the mobs “as if they were reporting from Times Square on New Year’s Eve, stopping only at putting on a party hat.”

Even CBS’s own statement said Logan was “covering the jubilation” and was attacked “amidst the celebration.”

Having 200 “good guys” gang assault a female reporter while screaming “Jew! Jew!” doesn’t fit the narrative. Is that why CBS sat on the story?

Or is it the cultural issue? A rape in a bar is a sex crime. But a pack of political protesters who rape a “Jew” in public is a story about culture...

Larimore wonders if “Logan’s attack [is] an anomaly, or is it to be expected from men raised in a culture that treats women as lesser citizens?”

I would point her to the 2008 broadcast on the Al-Aribiya network of a female (!) lawyer arguing that it’s OK for Muslim men to sexually assault Israeli women, because the Jews have “raped the land...”

There are stories like this — and Logan’s — every week, all with the same cultural denominator.

For the record, Logan isn’t Jewish. And because she’s not Muslim, there’s no possibility she’ll face the lash.

But Lara Logan is a story. Why did CBS work so hard not to tell it?

CBS complicit in news coverup - BostonHerald.com

 

[LibocalypseNow]

And they shouted Jew!!! Jew!!! Gee what a shocker there.

 

[High_Gravity]

What if an Arab woman was raped in a protest in downtown Detroit? there would be Muslims rioting demanding the heads of the people responsible.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Arabs are the most irrationally violent people on this Planet. They only bring death & misery everywhere they go in the World.

 

[vixi]

Arabs are the most irrationally violent people on this Planet. They only bring death & misery everywhere they go in the World.

not according to the BOOK OF BABBLES ( Bible )

 

[Ropey]

Arabs are the most irrationally violent people on this Planet. They only bring death & misery everywhere they go in the World.

not according to the BOOK OF BABBLES ( Bible )

Quoted for posterity.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,

What if an Arab woman was raped in a protest in downtown Detroit? there would be Muslims rioting demanding the heads of the people responsible.

1. You mean like 200 Christians raping that Miss Universe chick, the arab muslim, out in the New York City Times Square, infront of the whole world, with cameras rolling, while Christian man after Christian man, filled her with their seed, wham, wham wham,..two hundred times over?


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[High_Gravity]

Sorry bout that,

What if an Arab woman was raped in a protest in downtown Detroit? there would be Muslims rioting demanding the heads of the people responsible.

1. You mean like 200 Christians raping that Miss Universe chick, the arab muslim, out in the New York City Time Square, infront of the whole world, with cameras rolling, while Christian man after Christian man, filled her with their seed, wham, wham wham,..two hundred times over?


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Did that actually happen?

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,

Sorry bout that,

What if an Arab woman was raped in a protest in downtown Detroit? there would be Muslims rioting demanding the heads of the people responsible.

1. You mean like 200 Christians raping that Miss Universe chick, the arab muslim, out in the New York City Time Square, infront of the whole world, with cameras rolling, while Christian man after Christian man, filled her with their seed, wham, wham wham,..two hundred times over?


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Did that actually happen?

1. No of course not.
2. Just drawing a comparison for all to see.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[logical4u]

I don't feel sorry for her. In no way did she deserve to have this happen to her, but what do you expect to when you go around calling for sharia law thru democracy. If anything, you can anticipate this to be the norm until the liberals are ready to call a terrorist a terrorist.

Eh?

Who's calling for sharia law through Democracy?

The muslim 'hood.