Syrian Army cleans Jubar district, a suburb of Damascus

[Bleipriester]

FSA spokesman in Aleppo said "We might not share the same beliefs as Jabhat al-Nusra, but we are fighting the same enemy."

So is ISIS fighting the same enemy but most FSA are not running with them.

What a great justification. But the FSA shares Nusra beliefs indeed. An army that maintains an "Osama Bin Laden Brigade" isn´t secular or "free".

 

[aris2chat]

FSA spokesman in Aleppo said "We might not share the same beliefs as Jabhat al-Nusra, but we are fighting the same enemy."

So is ISIS fighting the same enemy but most FSA are not running with them.

What a great justification. But the FSA shares Nusra beliefs indeed. An army that maintains an "Osama Bin Laden Brigade" isn´t secular or "free".

Neither is assad or ISIS.

SNC charter.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/files/fp_uploaded_documents/110916_SNC - National Consensus Charter.pdf

 

[Bleipriester]

Neither is assad or ISIS.

SNC charter.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/files/fp_uploaded_documents/110916_SNC - National Consensus Charter.pdf

So Assad is not "secular"? And if you would have read my thread, you would know that the SNC is a ghost coalition not even the FSA cared about. It is the western made democratic face of an Islamist war against Syria's secularity.
On your dirty campaign you keep comparing Assad with Isis. This makes you a freak, a tragic clown who realized that Islamism is what would replace Assad but cannot admit it.

 

[aris2chat]

Neither is assad or ISIS.

SNC charter.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/files/fp_uploaded_documents/110916_SNC - National Consensus Charter.pdf

So Assad is not "secular"? And if you would have read my thread, you would know that the SNC is a ghost coalition not even the FSA cared about. It is the western made democratic face of an Islamist war against Syria's secularity.
On your dirty campaign you keep comparing Assad with Isis. This makes you a freak, a tragic clown who realized that Islamism is what would replace Assad but cannot admit it.

Assad and his alwaites (shites) hold the power in Syria. They have preferential status. Christian and jewish communities have been persecuted, jailed and tortured in syria. Many have left in the last 40 years.
This is what you call secular?

 

[Bleipriester]

Assad and his alwaites (shites) hold the power in Syria. They have preferential status. Christian and jewish communities have been persecuted, jailed and tortured in syria. Many have left in the last 40 years.
This is what you call secular?

You know that your are talking nonsense.

 

[aris2chat]

Assad and his alwaites (shites) hold the power in Syria. They have preferential status. Christian and jewish communities have been persecuted, jailed and tortured in syria. Many have left in the last 40 years.
This is what you call secular?

You know that your are talking nonsense.

Assad Slaughtering Syrian Christians

not nonsense

 

[Bleipriester]

Assad Slaughtering Syrian Christians

not nonsense

Of course it is nonsense. Posting dirty propaganda articles doesn´t change it.

Read here for truth:

Syrian state TV and the country's official SANA news agency said President Bashar Assad visited the hilltop hamlet of Maaloula, inspecting the damage done in recent fighting to its monasteries and churches.

Rebels, including fighters from the al-Qaida-affiliated Nusra Front, seized Maaloula several times late last year, most recently in December. Government troops swept through the village on Monday, sending rebel fighters fleeing to nearby hills.

Maaloula is located some 40 miles (60 kilometers) northeast of Damascus and is home to a large Christian population. The army's triumph in the village was an important symbolic prize for the government in its quest to be seen as protector of religious minorities, including Syria's Christians, who have largely supported the Assad family's decades of rule.

During his visit to the village Sunday, Assad promised to defend Christians — who make up about 10 percent of Syria's prewar population of 23 million — and protect churches that he said were part of the country's cultural heritage.

"Nobody, regardless of the extent of their terror, can erase our cultural and human history," the state news agency quoted Assad as saying as he surveyed damage to the Mar Takla Greek Orthodox monastery. Despite damage to holy sites in the village, Assad told state TV that "Maloula will remain steadfast in the face of barbarism of all those who are targeting the homeland."

Assad's forces and rebels trying to overthrow him are locked in a civil war in which more than 150,000 people have been killed. Millions more have been driven from their homes during the 3-year-old conflict.

In comments to mark Easter, Patriarch John Yazigi called on the warring sides to end the practice of "intimidation, displacement, extremism and takfiri mentality," a term for Islamic extremists. Such radicals have become increasingly influential among rebels, attacking Christians— who they see as infidels — partly as punishment for their support of Assad.

Yazigi called for dialogue and reconciliation, hailing Syria as a home for Muslims and Christians alike. But he said there would be no reckoning with Islamic extremists, vowing that "we will not submit and yield to those who transgress against our people and holy places."

Syria s Assad visits recaptured Christian village - Yahoo News

 

[aris2chat]

Assad Slaughtering Syrian Christians

not nonsense

Of course it is nonsense. Posting dirty propaganda articles doesn´t change it.

Read here for truth:

Syrian state TV and the country's official SANA news agency said President Bashar Assad visited the hilltop hamlet of Maaloula, inspecting the damage done in recent fighting to its monasteries and churches.

Rebels, including fighters from the al-Qaida-affiliated Nusra Front, seized Maaloula several times late last year, most recently in December. Government troops swept through the village on Monday, sending rebel fighters fleeing to nearby hills.

Maaloula is located some 40 miles (60 kilometers) northeast of Damascus and is home to a large Christian population. The army's triumph in the village was an important symbolic prize for the government in its quest to be seen as protector of religious minorities, including Syria's Christians, who have largely supported the Assad family's decades of rule.

During his visit to the village Sunday, Assad promised to defend Christians — who make up about 10 percent of Syria's prewar population of 23 million — and protect churches that he said were part of the country's cultural heritage.

"Nobody, regardless of the extent of their terror, can erase our cultural and human history," the state news agency quoted Assad as saying as he surveyed damage to the Mar Takla Greek Orthodox monastery. Despite damage to holy sites in the village, Assad told state TV that "Maloula will remain steadfast in the face of barbarism of all those who are targeting the homeland."

Assad's forces and rebels trying to overthrow him are locked in a civil war in which more than 150,000 people have been killed. Millions more have been driven from their homes during the 3-year-old conflict.

In comments to mark Easter, Patriarch John Yazigi called on the warring sides to end the practice of "intimidation, displacement, extremism and takfiri mentality," a term for Islamic extremists. Such radicals have become increasingly influential among rebels, attacking Christians— who they see as infidels — partly as punishment for their support of Assad.

Yazigi called for dialogue and reconciliation, hailing Syria as a home for Muslims and Christians alike. But he said there would be no reckoning with Islamic extremists, vowing that "we will not submit and yield to those who transgress against our people and holy places."

Syria s Assad visits recaptured Christian village - Yahoo News

It's the same PR game, as bringing ISIS Syria to fight the FSA and now it presents and either or between the Assad regime or ISIS. Assad keeps his power and looks like the good guy..... he gets the US to bomb ISIS.

You think Arafat, hamas, hezbullah and others have not play this game before?
You think during Lebanon's civil war that groups were playing each other off the same way?
Old game, very common in the middle east. This is usually where westerners need a score card for all the players, so they can figure out who is who.

 

[Bleipriester]

It's the same PR game, as bringing ISIS Syria to fight the FSA and now it presents and either or between the Assad regime or ISIS. Assad keeps his power and looks like the good guy..... he gets the US to bomb ISIS.

You think Arafat, hamas, hezbullah and others have not play this game before?
You think during Lebanon's civil war that groups were playing each other off the same way?
Old game, very common in the middle east. This is usually where westerners need a score card for all the players, so they can figure out who is who.

The difference between empty propaganda and reports about what is really happening should be clear. The Syrian government protects the Christians and other minorities indeed.

 

[aris2chat]

>>Hafez al-Assad ruled until his death in 2000, when he was succeeded by his son, Bashar. After initial hopes of political liberalization, Bashar al-Assad continued his father's heavy-handed tactics. Tension between Syria and western countries grew following the March 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq, which prompted waves of Iraqi refugees to enter Syria.

Considered as one of the most repressive regimes in the Arab world, the Syrian regime brutally suppressed a Kurdish uprising in 2004, which began as a reaction to the abuses waged against the population of Kurds living in Syria’s Kurdish areas.. It is widely believed that the uprising was sparked by an incident at Qamilshli stadium before a football game, when Arab Baathists supported by Syrian security forces clashed with Kurdish fans......

The regime of Hafez al-Assad maintained its position by tight security control, which led to widespread human rights abuses. Generally speaking, these were applied at an individual level, and no minority was the specific target of persecution. In fact, minorities were sometimes thought of as allies of the regime against the majority population, and this led at times to privileges. Technically it was an offence to ‘incite strife among the various sects or elements of the nation' (Press Code of 1948) or to carry out ‘sectarian activities' (Law of Associations 1958).

His government continued the policy of its predecessors in using one group against another or applying pressure to any minority which demonstrated political cohesion. The regime ensured that no community in Syria had the ability to displace the Alawis. Crudely speaking, the heart of the regime lay in the overlap among four ‘circles of power': the army, the Ba'ath Party, the Alawi community, and the Assad family. Under this system, Syria fell into deepening poverty despite its oil exports.

Upon Hafez al-Assad's death in 2000, his son Bashar became president. Initial moves to ease the stifling controls of his father, including the release of hundreds of political prisoners and an expansion of civil liberties, became known as the ‘Damascus Spring'. However, the new policy of liberalization suddenly reversed in February 2001, as civil society leaders and reformist politicians were arrested and promised economic reforms were jettisoned. A state of emergency declared in 1963 allowed security services to operate nearly unchecked against regime opponents. But on 21April 2011, the Syrian government lifted the almost 50-year-old state of emergency in an attempt to placate Assad´s opponents. However, despite the abolition of the emergency law and the Higher State Security Court, security forces have escalated the use of violent and repressive measures against unarmed civilian protesters.
<<Minority Rights Group International Homepage home page

 

[SAYIT]

770 killed here, 5000 plus killed there. They are both brutes with no regard for life.

... You won´t defeat radical armed Islamists with nice words.

Proving once again that even a broken clock is right twice a day.

 

[Bleipriester]

>>Hafez al-Assad ruled until his death in 2000, when he was succeeded by his son, Bashar. After initial hopes of political liberalization, Bashar al-Assad continued his father's heavy-handed tactics. Tension between Syria and western countries grew following the March 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq, which prompted waves of Iraqi refugees to enter Syria.

Considered as one of the most repressive regimes in the Arab world, the Syrian regime brutally suppressed a Kurdish uprising in 2004, which began as a reaction to the abuses waged against the population of Kurds living in Syria’s Kurdish areas.. It is widely believed that the uprising was sparked by an incident at Qamilshli stadium before a football game, when Arab Baathists supported by Syrian security forces clashed with Kurdish fans......

The regime of Hafez al-Assad maintained its position by tight security control, which led to widespread human rights abuses. Generally speaking, these were applied at an individual level, and no minority was the specific target of persecution. In fact, minorities were sometimes thought of as allies of the regime against the majority population, and this led at times to privileges. Technically it was an offence to ‘incite strife among the various sects or elements of the nation' (Press Code of 1948) or to carry out ‘sectarian activities' (Law of Associations 1958).

His government continued the policy of its predecessors in using one group against another or applying pressure to any minority which demonstrated political cohesion. The regime ensured that no community in Syria had the ability to displace the Alawis. Crudely speaking, the heart of the regime lay in the overlap among four ‘circles of power': the army, the Ba'ath Party, the Alawi community, and the Assad family. Under this system, Syria fell into deepening poverty despite its oil exports.

Upon Hafez al-Assad's death in 2000, his son Bashar became president. Initial moves to ease the stifling controls of his father, including the release of hundreds of political prisoners and an expansion of civil liberties, became known as the ‘Damascus Spring'. However, the new policy of liberalization suddenly reversed in February 2001, as civil society leaders and reformist politicians were arrested and promised economic reforms were jettisoned. A state of emergency declared in 1963 allowed security services to operate nearly unchecked against regime opponents. But on 21April 2011, the Syrian government lifted the almost 50-year-old state of emergency in an attempt to placate Assad´s opponents. However, despite the abolition of the emergency law and the Higher State Security Court, security forces have escalated the use of violent and repressive measures against unarmed civilian protesters.
<<Minority Rights Group International Homepage home page

Syria isn't poor and Syrians aren't opressed. In fact, Syria has become a powerful nation, wealthy and well functioning while reducing national debt. Now, the uprising you are hailing has destroyed much of the country and killed many people.
But it also showed the popularity of President Assad, after terrorist elements excluded themselves from the society.

 

[aris2chat]

>>Hafez al-Assad ruled until his death in 2000, when he was succeeded by his son, Bashar. After initial hopes of political liberalization, Bashar al-Assad continued his father's heavy-handed tactics. Tension between Syria and western countries grew following the March 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq, which prompted waves of Iraqi refugees to enter Syria.

Considered as one of the most repressive regimes in the Arab world, the Syrian regime brutally suppressed a Kurdish uprising in 2004, which began as a reaction to the abuses waged against the population of Kurds living in Syria’s Kurdish areas.. It is widely believed that the uprising was sparked by an incident at Qamilshli stadium before a football game, when Arab Baathists supported by Syrian security forces clashed with Kurdish fans......

The regime of Hafez al-Assad maintained its position by tight security control, which led to widespread human rights abuses. Generally speaking, these were applied at an individual level, and no minority was the specific target of persecution. In fact, minorities were sometimes thought of as allies of the regime against the majority population, and this led at times to privileges. Technically it was an offence to ‘incite strife among the various sects or elements of the nation' (Press Code of 1948) or to carry out ‘sectarian activities' (Law of Associations 1958).

His government continued the policy of its predecessors in using one group against another or applying pressure to any minority which demonstrated political cohesion. The regime ensured that no community in Syria had the ability to displace the Alawis. Crudely speaking, the heart of the regime lay in the overlap among four ‘circles of power': the army, the Ba'ath Party, the Alawi community, and the Assad family. Under this system, Syria fell into deepening poverty despite its oil exports.

Upon Hafez al-Assad's death in 2000, his son Bashar became president. Initial moves to ease the stifling controls of his father, including the release of hundreds of political prisoners and an expansion of civil liberties, became known as the ‘Damascus Spring'. However, the new policy of liberalization suddenly reversed in February 2001, as civil society leaders and reformist politicians were arrested and promised economic reforms were jettisoned. A state of emergency declared in 1963 allowed security services to operate nearly unchecked against regime opponents. But on 21April 2011, the Syrian government lifted the almost 50-year-old state of emergency in an attempt to placate Assad´s opponents. However, despite the abolition of the emergency law and the Higher State Security Court, security forces have escalated the use of violent and repressive measures against unarmed civilian protesters.
<<Minority Rights Group International Homepage home page

Syria isn't poor and Syrians aren't opressed. In fact, Syria has become a powerful nation, wealthy and well functioning while reducing national debt. Now, the uprising you are hailing has destroyed much of the country and killed many people.
But it also showed the popularity of President Assad, after terrorist elements excluded themselves from the society.

You obviously have never lived in r near Syria or have much contact with syrians. There are lot of sites, facebook and twitters devoted to the syrian people.
Photo presented to the UN document the abuses. Lists of tortured prisoners and their statements document the abuses. I've witness abuses. List of kidnapped and incarcerated without trial or even informing family, many bodies from the prisons mass graves might well be some of the missing. The fact of chemical weapons used against the syrian people documents the abuse. His father also used chemical weapons and massacres against syrians.
Banning internet except at government locations and only for limited use. Censoring news and shutting down publishers. Beating and torture for no reason by Mukhabarat. Corruption and demand payment of bribes. The fact that Syria was under martial law for the last 50yrs.........
Syrians have been screaming, pleading, protesting and reaching out to tell their stories of what has been happening in syria. Foreign prisoners that were kidnapped and taken to syria, some have been released in part of good will amnesty on certain memorial days. Some through negotiation with the prisoners country. Others through negotiation with NGO groups from overseas. A few have even escaped. The horrors have been detailed.
Syria is trillions in debt and it will take $20 trillion or so to rebuild syria. Half the population has been displaced and millions are now refugees (more syrian are refugees than palestinians).
Infrastructure and businesses destroyed. Farming and wildlife have been decimated.
>>International Monetary Fund (IMF) projected real GDP growth at 3.9% in 2009 from close to 6% in 2008<<
>>GDP growth -28.9% (2012 est.)<<

So where is this great powerful prosperous syria? A few decades ago they were getting money from illegal drugs and weapons. They bled Lebanon into billion in dept. Bribes were required and high to get anything done and even to travel within the country. Road blocks and syrian held regions meant hours to reroute travel to get from one point to another. Lebanon could do nothing without approval of syria. Assad even picked the presidents.
Syria has been a bully to it's people and neighbors. It is bankrupt both financially and morally.
Where is this greatness of syrian?

 

[Bleipriester]

You obviously have never lived in r near Syria or have much contact with syrians. There are lot of sites, facebook and twitters devoted to the syrian people.
Photo presented to the UN document the abuses. Lists of tortured prisoners and their statements document the abuses. I've witness abuses. List of kidnapped and incarcerated without trial or even informing family, many bodies from the prisons mass graves might well be some of the missing. The fact of chemical weapons used against the syrian people documents the abuse. His father also used chemical weapons and massacres against syrians.
Banning internet except at government locations and only for limited use. Censoring news and shutting down publishers. Beating and torture for no reason by Mukhabarat. Corruption and demand payment of bribes. The fact that Syria was under martial law for the last 50yrs.........
Syrians have been screaming, pleading, protesting and reaching out to tell their stories of what has been happening in syria. Foreign prisoners that were kidnapped and taken to syria, some have been released in part of good will amnesty on certain memorial days. Some through negotiation with the prisoners country. Others through negotiation with NGO groups from overseas. A few have even escaped. The horrors have been detailed.
Syria is trillions in debt and it will take $20 trillion or so to rebuild syria. Half the population has been displaced and millions are now refugees (more syrian are refugees than palestinians).
Infrastructure and businesses destroyed. Farming and wildlife have been decimated.
>>International Monetary Fund (IMF) projected real GDP growth at 3.9% in 2009 from close to 6% in 2008<<
>>GDP growth -28.9% (2012 est.)<<

So where is this great powerful prosperous syria? A few decades ago they were getting money from illegal drugs and weapons. They bled Lebanon into billion in dept. Bribes were required and high to get anything done and even to travel within the country. Road blocks and syrian held regions meant hours to reroute travel to get from one point to another. Lebanon could do nothing without approval of syria. Assad even picked the presidents.
Syria has been a bully to it's people and neighbors. It is bankrupt both financially and morally.
Where is this greatness of syrian?

Once again, you use dirty propaganda to blame the government. Though the UN said that the government is NOT responsible for the chemical attack, you keep accusing it of the terrorist crime committed by the FSA or its allies. As for the figures, a growth of 6% is phenomenal. And that the war is not good for the economy, is clear, but how is it the fault of the gov't?
That should be enough to debunk your text as bullshit.

 

[SAYIT]

So where is this great powerful prosperous syria? A few decades ago they were getting money from illegal drugs and weapons. They bled Lebanon into billion in dept. Bribes were required and high to get anything done and even to travel within the country. Road blocks and syrian held regions meant hours to reroute travel to get from one point to another. Lebanon could do nothing without approval of syria. Assad even picked the presidents.
Syria has been a bully to it's people and neighbors. It is bankrupt both financially and morally.
Where is this greatness of syrian?

In Syria's defense, all that you describe is pretty common throughout the Arab Mideast and in many places where the gov't struggles to enforce the rule of law.

 

[aris2chat]

You obviously have never lived in r near Syria or have much contact with syrians. There are lot of sites, facebook and twitters devoted to the syrian people.
Photo presented to the UN document the abuses. Lists of tortured prisoners and their statements document the abuses. I've witness abuses. List of kidnapped and incarcerated without trial or even informing family, many bodies from the prisons mass graves might well be some of the missing. The fact of chemical weapons used against the syrian people documents the abuse. His father also used chemical weapons and massacres against syrians.
Banning internet except at government locations and only for limited use. Censoring news and shutting down publishers. Beating and torture for no reason by Mukhabarat. Corruption and demand payment of bribes. The fact that Syria was under martial law for the last 50yrs.........
Syrians have been screaming, pleading, protesting and reaching out to tell their stories of what has been happening in syria. Foreign prisoners that were kidnapped and taken to syria, some have been released in part of good will amnesty on certain memorial days. Some through negotiation with the prisoners country. Others through negotiation with NGO groups from overseas. A few have even escaped. The horrors have been detailed.
Syria is trillions in debt and it will take $20 trillion or so to rebuild syria. Half the population has been displaced and millions are now refugees (more syrian are refugees than palestinians).
Infrastructure and businesses destroyed. Farming and wildlife have been decimated.
>>International Monetary Fund (IMF) projected real GDP growth at 3.9% in 2009 from close to 6% in 2008<<
>>GDP growth -28.9% (2012 est.)<<

So where is this great powerful prosperous syria? A few decades ago they were getting money from illegal drugs and weapons. They bled Lebanon into billion in dept. Bribes were required and high to get anything done and even to travel within the country. Road blocks and syrian held regions meant hours to reroute travel to get from one point to another. Lebanon could do nothing without approval of syria. Assad even picked the presidents.
Syria has been a bully to it's people and neighbors. It is bankrupt both financially and morally.
Where is this greatness of syrian?

Once again, you use dirty propaganda to blame the government. Though the UN said that the government is NOT responsible for the chemical attack, you keep accusing it if the terrorist crime committed by the FSA or its allies. As for the figures, a growth of 6% is phenomenal. And that the war is not good for the economy, but how is it the fault of the gov't?
That should be enough to debunk your text as bullshit.

IMF is dirty propaganda? From a 6% growth to -29% at the beginning of the civil war.
The 2008 figure was during a period where globally 12%-6% was average.

BBC News - Syria chemical attack What we know

I present facts and you try to attack me. Too funny.
You are not debunking the information, just trying to insult me.
Of course the civil war is the responsibility of the government. It left the people frustrated and dissatisfied with Assad. Government forces fired on thousands of protesters, that had to that point been peaceful. Assad lost a large part of it military, including flag officers defecting to the FSA. Obviously they too disagreed with the way Assad was governing.
So many taking to the streets and eventually to arms would not be happening if syria was so well off.
So where is this greatness you think was Syria?

 

[aris2chat]

You obviously have never lived in r near Syria or have much contact with syrians. There are lot of sites, facebook and twitters devoted to the syrian people.
Photo presented to the UN document the abuses. Lists of tortured prisoners and their statements document the abuses. I've witness abuses. List of kidnapped and incarcerated without trial or even informing family, many bodies from the prisons mass graves might well be some of the missing. The fact of chemical weapons used against the syrian people documents the abuse. His father also used chemical weapons and massacres against syrians.
Banning internet except at government locations and only for limited use. Censoring news and shutting down publishers. Beating and torture for no reason by Mukhabarat. Corruption and demand payment of bribes. The fact that Syria was under martial law for the last 50yrs.........
Syrians have been screaming, pleading, protesting and reaching out to tell their stories of what has been happening in syria. Foreign prisoners that were kidnapped and taken to syria, some have been released in part of good will amnesty on certain memorial days. Some through negotiation with the prisoners country. Others through negotiation with NGO groups from overseas. A few have even escaped. The horrors have been detailed.
Syria is trillions in debt and it will take $20 trillion or so to rebuild syria. Half the population has been displaced and millions are now refugees (more syrian are refugees than palestinians).
Infrastructure and businesses destroyed. Farming and wildlife have been decimated.
>>International Monetary Fund (IMF) projected real GDP growth at 3.9% in 2009 from close to 6% in 2008<<
>>GDP growth -28.9% (2012 est.)<<

So where is this great powerful prosperous syria? A few decades ago they were getting money from illegal drugs and weapons. They bled Lebanon into billion in dept. Bribes were required and high to get anything done and even to travel within the country. Road blocks and syrian held regions meant hours to reroute travel to get from one point to another. Lebanon could do nothing without approval of syria. Assad even picked the presidents.
Syria has been a bully to it's people and neighbors. It is bankrupt both financially and morally.
Where is this greatness of syrian?

Once again, you use dirty propaganda to blame the government. Though the UN said that the government is NOT responsible for the chemical attack, you keep accusing it of the terrorist crime committed by the FSA or its allies. As for the figures, a growth of 6% is phenomenal. And that the war is not good for the economy, is clear, but how is it the fault of the gov't?
That should be enough to debunk your text as bullshit.

Bank of Syria vs IMF? Now which one is the propaganda?

per your source, inflation was 121.29 Percent in August of 2013. Average from 1958 till now it was over 10% while most industrial countries were around 3-6%.
CPI was 491.56%. Syria had to set the price of bread or the average person would not be able to afford it. Bakers have to be subsidized or they could not afford the price of flour.

This is an example of a great country? This is how you create a satisfied population? Long lines and shortages of bread? A limit of only two bags?

>>• The youth unemployment rate is 48 per cent, six times higher than the rate of unemployment among adults.
• Seventy-five per cent of unemployed young people (15-24 years old) have been without employment for more
than a year.
• Just over half (54.2 per cent) of all unemployment is found in rural areas.
• The rate of unemployment among young women is nearly four times that among young men.i In addition,
66 per cent of young men above the age of 15 are in employment, while 75 per cent of young women aged 15
or over are neither in employment nor in education.<< IFAD.org

 

[Bleipriester]

IMF is dirty propaganda? From a 6% growth to -29% at the beginning of the civil war.
The 2008 figure was during a period where globally 12%-6% was average.

BBC News - Syria chemical attack What we know

I present facts and you try to attack me. Too funny.
You are not debunking the information, just trying to insult me.
Of course the civil war is the responsibility of the government. It left the people frustrated and dissatisfied with Assad. Government forces fired on thousands of protesters, that had to that point been peaceful. Assad lost a large part of it military, including flag officers defecting to the FSA. Obviously they too disagreed with the way Assad was governing.
So many taking to the streets and eventually to arms would not be happening if syria was so well off.
So where is this greatness you think was Syria?

The protestors got everything they wanted:
- A new constitution that does not include the Baath Party's claim to rule.
- End of the state of emergency
- Limited number of terms for a president
- More freedom in the internet
- Sharia law for those who want it (cannot be enforced upon people who don't want it)

That is everything what was demanded. It was protesters who shot at other protesters and security personnel.

Chemical weapons:
UN accuses Syrian rebels of chemical weapons use - Telegraph

Gdp growth, Syria compared with Germany, US, Israel and the whole wide world:
Israel Syria World United States Germany - GDP - real growth rate - Historical Data Graphs per Year

 

[Bleipriester]

Bank of Syria vs IMF? Now which one is the propaganda?

per your source, inflation was 121.29 Percent in August of 2013. Average from 1958 till now it was over 10% while most industrial countries were around 3-6%.
CPI was 491.56%. Syria had to set the price of bread or the average person would not be able to afford it. Bakers have to be subsidized or they could not afford the price of flour.

This is an example of a great country? This is how you create a satisfied population? Long lines and shortages of bread? A limit of only two bags?

>>• The youth unemployment rate is 48 per cent, six times higher than the rate of unemployment among adults.
• Seventy-five per cent of unemployed young people (15-24 years old) have been without employment for more
than a year.
• Just over half (54.2 per cent) of all unemployment is found in rural areas.
• The rate of unemployment among young women is nearly four times that among young men.i In addition,
66 per cent of young men above the age of 15 are in employment, while 75 per cent of young women aged 15
or over are neither in employment nor in education.<< IFAD.org

Propaganda, you receive from your FSA mates and that cannot be confirmed. Furthermore, you ignore the various sanctions that are made to weaken the Syrian economy.

 

[aris2chat]

IMF is dirty propaganda? From a 6% growth to -29% at the beginning of the civil war.
The 2008 figure was during a period where globally 12%-6% was average.

BBC News - Syria chemical attack What we know

I present facts and you try to attack me. Too funny.
You are not debunking the information, just trying to insult me.
Of course the civil war is the responsibility of the government. It left the people frustrated and dissatisfied with Assad. Government forces fired on thousands of protesters, that had to that point been peaceful. Assad lost a large part of it military, including flag officers defecting to the FSA. Obviously they too disagreed with the way Assad was governing.
So many taking to the streets and eventually to arms would not be happening if syria was so well off.
So where is this greatness you think was Syria?

The protestors got everything they wanted:
- A new constitution that does not include the Baath Party's claim to rule.
- End of the state of emergency
- Limited number of terms for a president
- More freedom in the internet
- Sharia law for those who want it (cannot be enforced upon people who don't want it)

That is everything what was demanded. It was protesters who shot at other protesters and security personnel.

Chemical weapons:
UN accuses Syrian rebels of chemical weapons use - Telegraph

Gdp growth, Syria compared with Germany, US, Israel and the whole wide world:
Israel Syria World United States Germany - GDP - real growth rate - Historical Data Graphs per Year

Such a fall in GDP since 2009, more like a crash that would hit the people very hard.