Susan Rice Throws a Tantrum

[Marener]

Americans really do not understand Fascists at all.

Do you?

 

[buckeye]

Hindsight is always 20/20.

That wasn't hindsight you idiot. Add reading to your personal deficits, liar.

 

[Hollie]

Prove it.

Already did.

So, we’re to understand your conspiracy theory is that Trump ordered Biden to retreat fro Afghanistan?

Is that really your best conspiracy theory?

 

[Marener]

That wasn't hindsight you idiot. Add reading to your personal deficits, liar.

You can find evidence to support anything after the fact. The IC is comprised of dozens and dozens of branches and if one of them gets it right, you can't just say "see we should have known".

 

[Marener]

Already did.

So, we’re to understand your conspiracy theory is that Trump ordered Biden to retreat fro Afghanistan?

Is that really your best conspiracy theory?

You really don't understand much.

 

[Hollie]

What lie? This is what his mother said:
You are an abuser of women — that is the ugly truth and I have no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around, and uses women for his own power and ego. You are that man (and have been for years) and as your mother, it pains me and embarrasses me to say that, but it is the sad, sad truth.

contradicted by his mother.

Tell how many more times you’re going to spam the thread with the same cutting and pasting you know is false.

What’s the number?

 

[Hollie]

You really don't understand much.

You are still trying to blame Trump for the failures of Biden and the democrats.

Do you not understand what you post?

 

[Delldude]

Given I don't want to live in an authoritarian fascist state, I think that court proceedings should be public.

Seems pretty obvious.

Not talking about court proceedings here.

 

[Marener]

Not talking about court proceedings here.

That just makes it more fascist.

 

[Robert W]

That just makes it more fascist.

Discuss fascism to see if you have a clue!!

 

[Marener]

Discuss fascism to see if you have a clue!!

Trump sent Kilmar Abrego Garcia to a gulag to be indefinitely imprisoned without having to show any evidence in court.

Seems like a bit of a fascist thing to do.

 

[Delldude]

That just makes it more fascist.

You have no clue, do you? If there's evidence of him being involved in trafficking from an ongoing investigation.....that's grounds right there for deportation.

But none of this matters anymore, so why all the tears?

 

[buckeye]

You can find evidence to support anything after the fact. The IC is comprised of dozens and dozens of branches and if one of them gets it right, you can't just say "see we should have known".

You really are ignorant of this, aren't you?

It was all over the news at the time. Since all you read are reports out of the DNC perhaps you missed them.

Here's some examples:

From April 13, 2021

Members of Biden's Cabinet have been appealing to the president in recent months to grant the U.S.-backed mission there just a little more time to achieve some form of peaceful settlement with the Taliban and allow for an orderly American withdrawal.

Army Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, reportedly delivered an "emotional" argument during one meeting in March to consider leaving U.S. troops there beyond the May 1 deadline, one of the terms of a partially secret deal then-President Donald Trump signed with the Taliban.

However, most agree that the conditions that would preface a U.S. peace deal have not materialized, certainly not as a result of that deal signed in Doha in February 2020. Instead the Taliban has stepped up violence against U.S. forces there. It reportedly maintains ties with al-Qaida and other extremist networks despite strict prohibitions on those alliances, and, analysts say, through its de facto support from Pakistan it has positioned itself to continue grabbing territory throughout the war-torn country.

On Capitol Hill, news of the troop withdrawal broke down along familiar fault lines, sparking deep frustration from GOP defense hawks.

GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina condemned the decision as "dumber than dirt and devilishly dangerous," while Senate Armed Services Committee Ranking Member Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma called Biden's decision "outrageous."

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2021-04-13/biden-ordered-afghanistan-withdrawal-despite-objections-from-top-advisers-congress

From March, 2021:

Officials Try to Sway Biden Using Intelligence on Potential for Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan (Published 2021)

If U.S. troops leave before any deal between the Taliban and the Afghan government, the militant group will take over much of the country, an intelligence assessment predicted.

www.nytimes.com

From June 23, 2021

https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghan-government-could-collapse-six-months-after-u-s-withdrawal-new-intelligence-assessment-says-11624466743

 

[Marener]

You really are ignorant of this, aren't you?

It was all over the news at the time. Since all you read are reports out of the DNC perhaps you missed them.

Here's some examples:

From April 13, 2021

Members of Biden's Cabinet have been appealing to the president in recent months to grant the U.S.-backed mission there just a little more time to achieve some form of peaceful settlement with the Taliban and allow for an orderly American withdrawal.

Army Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, reportedly delivered an "emotional" argument during one meeting in March to consider leaving U.S. troops there beyond the May 1 deadline, one of the terms of a partially secret deal then-President Donald Trump signed with the Taliban.

However, most agree that the conditions that would preface a U.S. peace deal have not materialized, certainly not as a result of that deal signed in Doha in February 2020. Instead the Taliban has stepped up violence against U.S. forces there. It reportedly maintains ties with al-Qaida and other extremist networks despite strict prohibitions on those alliances, and, analysts say, through its de facto support from Pakistan it has positioned itself to continue grabbing territory throughout the war-torn country.

On Capitol Hill, news of the troop withdrawal broke down along familiar fault lines, sparking deep frustration from GOP defense hawks.

GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina condemned the decision as "dumber than dirt and devilishly dangerous," while Senate Armed Services Committee Ranking Member Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma called Biden's decision "outrageous."

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2021-04-13/biden-ordered-afghanistan-withdrawal-despite-objections-from-top-advisers-congress

From March, 2021:

Officials Try to Sway Biden Using Intelligence on Potential for Taliban Takeover of Afghanistan (Published 2021)

If U.S. troops leave before any deal between the Taliban and the Afghan government, the militant group will take over much of the country, an intelligence assessment predicted.

www.nytimes.com

From June 23, 2021

https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghan-government-could-collapse-six-months-after-u-s-withdrawal-new-intelligence-assessment-says-11624466743

What you're ignoring is that we didn't actually have conflict with the Taliban on the withdrawal. It was ISIS-K that attacked our troops.

If we had left it up to the military, we would have never left Afghanistan. Americans would still be dying there today.

But oddly enough, you're taking the blame off the military and placing it on Biden. Weren't you trying to blame Austin for all of this?

 

[Marener]

From June 23, 2021

KABUL—The U.S. intelligence community concluded last week that the government of Afghanistan could collapse as soon as six months after the American military withdrawal from the country is completed, according to officials with knowledge of the new assessment.

6 months!

 

[buckeye]

What you're ignoring is that we didn't actually have conflict with the Taliban on the withdrawal. It was ISIS-K that attacked our troops.

If we had left it up to the military, we would have never left Afghanistan. Americans would still be dying there today.

But oddly enough, you're taking the blame off the military and placing it on Biden. Weren't you trying to blame Austin for all of this?

As I said, you're not a good reader. You need remedial tutoring.

It doesn't matter who we had a conflict with, it was quite obvious to anyone with a brain that the Afghan govt couldn't withstand our withdrawal in the fashion Biden and his stupid admin were proposing. That you didn't know just shows how uninformed you are. Get out of DNC talking points and think.

 

[Marener]

As I said, you're not a good reader. You need remedial tutoring.

It doesn't matter who we had a conflict with, it was quite obvious to anyone with a brain that the Afghan govt couldn't withstand our withdrawal in the fashion Biden and his stupid admin were proposing. That you didn't know just shows how uninformed you are. Get out of DNC talking points and think.

Everyone knew the Afghan government would collapse. We just didn’t know how quickly. Your own link said the IC concluded it would take at least 6 months before the government collapsed.

 

[buckeye]

KABUL—The U.S. intelligence community concluded last week that the government of Afghanistan could collapse as soon as six months after the American military withdrawal from the country is completed, according to officials with knowledge of the new assessment.

6 months!

Are you under the impression that collapse at any time was going to be a good thing?

The warnings were there. You just cherry picked one of the many examples of them. At least you're now admitting that it was obvious that withdrawing the way Biden wanted to was a catastrophe in waiting.

Biden and Austin are murderers of 13 young service people with their lives in front of them. The dementia patient and his admin didn't care one single bit about them or their families.

 

[Hollie]

Trump sent Kilmar Abrego Garcia to a gulag to be indefinitely imprisoned without having to show any evidence in court.

Seems like a bit of a fascist thing to do.

You're such a fraud. Trump never sent your human trafficking, wife beatng hero to prison. Authorities in El salvador put your hero in prison.

 

[Marener]

Are you under the impression that collapse at any time was going to be a good thing?

The warnings were there. You just cherry picked one of the many examples of them.

Biden and Austin are murderers of 13 young service people with their lives in front of them. The dementia patient and his admin didn't care one single bit about them or their families.

A collapse was inevitable. Everyone knew this.

We spent 20 years trying to stand them up and couldn’t. How many more decades should have we spent? How many more lives lost? How many more billions or trillions spent?