Supreme Court Strikes Down Louisiana Abortion Restrictions

[pknopp]

And as usual the WH goes with the inane, ridiculous “states’ rights/unelected judges” sophistry:

“Instead of valuing fundamental democratic principles, unelected Justices have intruded on the sovereign prerogatives of State governments by imposing their own policy preference in favor of abortion to override legitimate abortion safety regulations.”

White House calls Supreme Court decision on abortion 'unfortunate'

Lame.

Unfortunate? Trump didn't call Roberts a poopy head?

 

[Olde Europe]

Got a grim sense of humor? Read Alito's dissent. He maintains, the abortion providers suing on behalf of their patients lack standing. The case should be remanded to the district court, which should add a woman seeking an abortion, but unable to get one because of the Louisiana fetus fetishists' burdensome law all but eradicated abortion providers in the State. Then they can have a real case, which will ultimately be decided once the plaintiff's to-be-aborted fetus goes to school (so will heaven knows how many others). Of course, once the case reaches the Supremes, the damage to abortion providers is done, and the real purpose of the Louisiana law is fulfilled. Oops. But then, the four-(sorry excuse for a)man, fetus-fetishist goon squad would decide every other case reaching them the same way, because, you know, "stare decisis".

The most worrisome is Roberts's concurrence, as it is partly an excuse for his concurrence, partly a roadmap for smarter legislators how to get him to wave through legislative burdens on a women's right to choose sufficiently dissimilar to the laws in Texas and Louisiana. Or so my impression. All in all, a good day, with a very dark cloud hanging over it.

Alito is wrong. Just arguing the legal aspect, a law that would put you out of business most certainly should give you legal status. But again, the solution is easy. As you note, have a woman file.

Really, pknopp, the "solution is easy"? Did you pay any attention? At all?

For a woman to have a (perhaps) viable claim, the following conditions must be met:

- She realizes she's pregnant, and decides to terminate.

- The number of abortion providers in Louisiana must have collapsed due to the Louisiana law, as predicted.

- She must be able to demonstrate she has the means to go to court, but not the means to travel the distances she needs to travel to get an abortion. Only then, according to Alito (as joined by the other mouth-breathers on the Court), the law is an undue burden on her exercise of her constitutional right.

- Of course, that woman will never get a court ruling before the window on her abortion closes, and even if she got that ruling, she still doesn't have a clinic in her proximity.

The effect is exactly what the retards in the Louisiana legislature intended, make access to abortion all but impossible for women in Louisiana, and the poor among them in particular.

What about the above made you think, the "solution is easy"?

Act 620 became law in mid-June 2014. Now we have a Supreme Court ruling on it, in 2020 - six years later. So, what's the point of a pregnant woman suing against that act in order to be allowed to exercise her constitutional rights in the retarded fever swamps of Louisiana? Only a mindless, retarded bobblehead would side with that cynical, brutal fraud of an easy "solution". As usual with the Goobers, the brutality meted out to Those people is the entire point.

 

[pknopp]

Got a grim sense of humor? Read Alito's dissent. He maintains, the abortion providers suing on behalf of their patients lack standing. The case should be remanded to the district court, which should add a woman seeking an abortion, but unable to get one because of the Louisiana fetus fetishists' burdensome law all but eradicated abortion providers in the State. Then they can have a real case, which will ultimately be decided once the plaintiff's to-be-aborted fetus goes to school (so will heaven knows how many others). Of course, once the case reaches the Supremes, the damage to abortion providers is done, and the real purpose of the Louisiana law is fulfilled. Oops. But then, the four-(sorry excuse for a)man, fetus-fetishist goon squad would decide every other case reaching them the same way, because, you know, "stare decisis".

The most worrisome is Roberts's concurrence, as it is partly an excuse for his concurrence, partly a roadmap for smarter legislators how to get him to wave through legislative burdens on a women's right to choose sufficiently dissimilar to the laws in Texas and Louisiana. Or so my impression. All in all, a good day, with a very dark cloud hanging over it.

Alito is wrong. Just arguing the legal aspect, a law that would put you out of business most certainly should give you legal status. But again, the solution is easy. As you note, have a woman file.

Really, pknopp, the "solution is easy"? Did you pay any attention? At all?

For a woman to have a (perhaps) viable claim, the following conditions must be met:

- She realizes she's pregnant, and decides to terminate.

- The number of abortion providers in Louisiana must have collapsed due to the Louisiana law, as predicted.

- She must be able to demonstrate she has the means to go to court, but not the means to travel the distances she needs to travel to get an abortion. Only then, according to Alito (as joined by the other mouth-breathers on the Court), the law is an undue burden on her exercise of her constitutional right.

- Of course, that woman will never get a court ruling before the window on her abortion closes, and even if she got that ruling, she still doesn't have a clinic in her proximity.

The effect is exactly what the retards in the Louisiana legislature intended, make access to abortion all but impossible for women in Louisiana, and the poor among them in particular.

What about the above made you think, the "solution is easy"?

Act 620 became law in mid-June 2014. Now we have a Supreme Court ruling on it, in 2020 - six years later. So, what's the point of a pregnant woman suing against that act in order to be allowed to exercise her constitutional rights in the retarded fever swamps of Louisiana? Only a mindless, retarded bobblehead would side with that cynical, brutal fraud of an easy "solution". As usual with the Goobers, the brutality meted out to Those people is the entire point.

You are going to have to do that sooner or later. BTW, I disagree with Alito. Injunctions would be filed stopping anything from going into place also. The only people winning over all of this is the lawyers. Nothing major is going to change with abortion........or guns.......or immigration.........

 

[Anathema]

The American people....all of them. The majority of whom support a woman's right to choose. When a justice takes the oath..he/she should leave the doctrinaire conservative/liberal paradigm behind and rule on the law.

Given the recent rulings....the Justices agree!

The American people as a whole couldn’t spell MORAL if you spotted them the M, O, & R. Right and Wrong are not malleable concepts. Anyone who can leave their values behind in ANY situation never had any to begin with.

Given the recent rulings the entire court needs to be hit in the head with a baseball bat.

 

[Olde Europe]

You are going to have to do that sooner or later. BTW, I disagree with Alito. Injunctions would be filed stopping anything from going into place also. The only people winning over all of this is the lawyers. Nothing major is going to change with abortion........or guns.......or immigration.........

Heavens.

For Alito's "solution" to come to pass, the number of providers in Louisiana needs to collapse - hence the burden on her. For that to happen, Act 620 needed to go into effect. In reality, it won't of course, because the law has been condemned as unconstitutional, but we've been discussing Alito's "easy solution". At that time this "solution" is possible, the damage to reproductive health in Louisiana would have been done.

Putting a pregnant woman through a trial from the district court right up to the Supreme Court, with not a lick of a chance of getting a result in time, is so ghoulish as to merit special mention on some list of world-class ghoulish, and it should give any thinking person pause. But you insist it must be done. Most assuredly, it must not.

As to your contention that nothing major is going to change, you can bet your last dime that Louisiana lawmakers are busy right now, crafting another legal atrocity in their quest to "protect women's health." Very busy, indeed, and Roberts will likely look for any conceivable way to get past precedent once that atrocity reaches his court.

 

[SaxxyBlues]

Where we are today:

Where the right is leading us:

 

[pknopp]

You are going to have to do that sooner or later. BTW, I disagree with Alito. Injunctions would be filed stopping anything from going into place also. The only people winning over all of this is the lawyers. Nothing major is going to change with abortion........or guns.......or immigration.........

Heavens.

For Alito's "solution" to come to pass, the number of providers in Louisiana needs to collapse - hence the burden on her. For that to happen, Act 620 needed to go into effect. In reality, it won't of course, because the law has been condemned as unconstitutional, but we've been discussing Alito's "easy solution". At that time this "solution" is possible, the damage to reproductive health in Louisiana would have been done.

Putting a pregnant woman through a trial from the district court right up to the Supreme Court, with not a lick of a chance of getting a result in time, is so ghoulish as to merit special mention on some list of world-class ghoulish, and it should give any thinking person pause. But you insist it must be done. Most assuredly, it must not.

As to your contention that nothing major is going to change, you can bet your last dime that Louisiana lawmakers are busy right now, crafting another legal atrocity in their quest to "protect women's health." Very busy, indeed, and Roberts will likely look for any conceivable way to get past precedent once that atrocity reaches his court.

"Ghoulish". It's exactly how RvW came about.

 

[gulfman]

The liberals may put his face on jars of Gerbers baby food.