Stormy Daniels cleared Trump from crimes

[WorldWatcher]

Nope. I was asking you what you meant when you claimed Trump was on trial "For trying to hide Cohen’s crime."

Cohen committed felonious campaign finance crimes. He was charged and convicted.

FPOTUS#45 used the Trump Organization to launder the repayments to Cohen after the election.

WW

 

[Lesh]

Nope. I was asking you what you meant when you claimed Trump was on trial "For trying to hide Cohen’s crime."

One of Cohen's crimes was campaign finance violations.

He did this at the behest of Trump and Trump tried to hide it

 

[WorldWatcher]

One of Cohen's crimes was campaign finance violations.

He did this at the behest of Trump and Trump tried to hide it

Actually two of Cohens convictions were involved campaign finance, IIRC.

WW

 

[Rawley]

Cohen committed felonious campaign finance crimes. He was charged and convicted.

FPOTUS#45 used the Trump Organization to launder the repayments to Cohen after the election.

WW

You keep dancing, how did Trump know Cohen had committed a crime when he signed the checks to his lawyer?

 

[Rawley]

One of Cohen's crimes was campaign finance violations.

He did this at the behest of Trump and Trump tried to hide it

Perhaps you won't dance, how did Trump know Cohen had committed a crime when he signed the checks to his lawyer?

 

[jc456]

LOL

Your ignorance is noted and laughed as as always.

So none

 

[Rawley]

Crickets

 

[Lesh]

Perhaps you won't dance, how did Trump know Cohen had committed a crime when he signed the checks to his lawyer?

It’s been shown in court that he did

 

[para bellum]

If FPOTUS#45 was going to use an "advice of counsel" defense, then that motion would have had to have been made before trial began as that would have been a question of law (for the Judge) and not a question of fact (for the jury).

The defense chose not to invoke an 'advice of counsel' defense for several reasons, but Trump still enjoys some of the benefits.

The poster's question illustrates this: "Did Cohen warn Trump that it was illegal?"

The jury already knows that Cohen was actively involved from the very start, and that it was Cohen and Weisselberg who setup the payment schedule and amounts.

The defense doesn't have to ask Cohen if he gave Trump advice that the payoffs were legal, and Trump doesn't have to say he asked. Cohen was the architect of the plan, and the jury already knows this.

Most people expect that an attorney will warn his client if he is about to do something illegal, so there is an implicit "advice of counsel" built into the case that the jury will just assume.

 

[Rawley]

It’s been shown in court that he did

Do tell. Who testified that Trump knew Cohen had committed a crime?

 

[Rawley]

The defense chose not to invoke an 'advice of counsel' defense for several reasons, but Trump still enjoys some of the benefits.

The poster's question illustrates this: "Did Cohen warn Trump that it was illegal?"

The jury already knows that Cohen was actively involved from the very start, and that it was Cohen and Weisselberg who setup the payment schedule and amounts.

The defense doesn't have to ask Cohen if he gave Trump advice that the payoffs were legal, and Trump doesn't have to say he asked. Cohen was the architect of the plan, and the jury already knows this.

Most people expect that an attorney will warn his client if he is about to do something illegal, so there is an implicit "advice of counsel" built into the case that the jury will just assume.

They keep dancing around the "intent" element of the statute.

 

[Lesh]

Do tell. Who testified that Trump knew Cohen had committed a crime?

It’s on TAPE

 

[Lesh]

The defense chose not to invoke an 'advice of counsel' defense for several reasons, but Trump still enjoys some of the benefits.

The poster's question illustrates this: "Did Cohen warn Trump that it was illegal?"

The jury already knows that Cohen was actively involved from the very start, and that it was Cohen and Weisselberg who setup the payment schedule and amounts.

The defense doesn't have to ask Cohen if he gave Trump advice that the payoffs were legal, and Trump doesn't have to say he asked. Cohen was the architect of the plan, and the jury already knows this.

Most people expect that an attorney will warn his client if he is about to do something illegal, so there is an implicit "advice of counsel" built into the case that the jury will just assume.

Advice of counsel ain’t gonna fly

Fail

 

[Rawley]

It’s on TAPE

Trump admitted he knew Cohen was committing a crime? Cohen admitted he was committing a crime? What tape are you talking about? Are you following the same trial?

 

[para bellum]

They keep dancing around the "intent" element of the statute.

If I have their logic right, the intent to defraud was Trump paying Cohen $420,000 for a $130,000 NDA and calling it legal expenses. They did that to conceal Cohen's campaign finance violations?

 

[para bellum]

Advice of counsel ain’t gonna fly

Fail

Reading comprehension? They aren't using it.

 

[konradv]

Trump did not interfere. He had to do as he did as the candidate.

He HAD TO lie, falsify documents and cheat on his wife? I can remember a day when that would sink a candidacy. I guess for present day MAGA, ethics are for the other guy!

 

[Lesh]

Trump admitted he knew Cohen was committing a crime? Cohen admitted he was committing a crime? What tape are you talking about? Are you following the same trial?

He admitted the particulars which are a crime

 

[Rawley]

If I have their logic right, the intent to defraud was Trump paying Cohen $420,000 for a $130,000 NDA and calling it legal expenses. They did that to conceal Cohen's campaign finance violations?

Seems that sums it up.

I smell a Directed Verdict

 

[jc456]

Yeah, about having his lawyer pay women to not talk about having affairs with him. He knew it was wrong as evidenced by him denying it when he was asked about it.

Is that a crime? If so, why isn’t the slickster in jail