Stats About Israeli And Palestinian In ME

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

What you consider legal is outside reality.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, this is interesting...

(COMMENT)

Where and when do you see a record of Annexation by the Israelis in 1948 or 1949?

Most Respectfully,
R

I never have. I don't see anything where Israel has ever legally acquired any land.

(COMMENT)

Israel, under the Declarative Theory on State Recognition, announced its intentions and it territorial boundaries. Upon external interference by the Arab League, it successfully defended that territory (Under Chapter VII) and further gain control of additional territory within the Perimeter of the Armistice Lines. While the Armistice Lines were not intended to be the actual boundaries --- the Israeli Treaties with Egypt and Jordan settled the International Boundary issues relevant to the territory covering the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

•• Article 3(1) The international boundary between Jordan and Israel is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I (a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and coordinates specified therein. Treaty with Jordan

•• Article II The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel in the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace. Treaty with Egypt
​

Position of the Government of Lebanon

"In resolution 425 (1978), the Security Council called for the “strict respect for the territorial integrity, sovereignty and political independence of Lebanon within its internationally recognized boundaries”. It also called upon Israel to “withdraw forthwith its forces from all Lebanese territory”. The Security Council also decided “in light of the request of the Government of Lebanon to establish immediately under its authority a United Nations interim force for Southern Lebanon”, one of the tasks of which would be to confirm the withdrawal of Israeli forces. As mentioned in the report of the Secretary-General of 22 May 2000 on the implementation of Security Council resolutions 425 (1978) and 426 (1978), for the purpose of confirming the Israeli withdrawal, the United Nations needed to “identify a line to be adopted conforming to the internationally recognized boundaries of Lebanon based on the best available cartographic and other documentary material”. The United Nations would then identify “physically on the ground those portions of the line necessary or relevant to confirming the withdrawal of Israeli forces”. The report of the Secretary-General also stated that the international boundary between Israel and Lebanon was established pursuant to the 1923 Agreement between France and Great Britain entitled “Boundary Line between Syria and Palestine from the Mediterranean to El Hamme”. This line was reaffirmed in the “Israeli-Lebanese General Armistice Agreement signed on 23 March 1949”. Subsequently there were several modifications mutually agreed by Israel and Lebanon. (Security Council S-2000/590 16 June 2000)

The Arab Palestinian, unlike the four adjacent Arab League Nations, never attempted to establish an agreement on the boundaries. They remain an agenda item under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine already has international borders. They don't need to negotiate anything.

So when did this nation of palestine borders get negotiated and who signed for palestine. How about a link then tinny as you bragged you ALWAYS give links

And not your usual link to the Mandate of Palestine borders

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

The LoN acted as the sovereign ruler of all the former Ottoman lands and delineated the borders. If as you claim the mandate was not a nation then palestine could not have been invented and given borders because the borders you use happen to be those of the MANDATE OF PALESTINE

Unless you want to prove me wrong with links to your evidence ?

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Well, that actually is so ambiguous as to impart no information.

Palestine already has international borders. They don't need to negotiate anything.

(COMMENT)

This is exactly why and how the Arab Palestinians promote the continuation of the conflict.

• There are some Arab Palestinians that believe the old boundaries outlined by the Allied Powers when they established the Mandate are the international boundaries for Palestine. This would encompass all of Israel.
• There are some Arab Palestinians that believe the old 1988 State of Palestine boundaries are recognized delimit Arab Palestine.
• There are some Arab Palestinians that believe the territories occupied in the 1967 war represent the delimitation.
​

As long as the representation (de jure) for the Arab Palestinians finds some logic to your position that the Palestinians "don't need to negotiate anything," the longer the status quo will remain in tact, or deteriorate further.

There are many that believe the situation, as it exists today, is not totally the fault of the Arab Palestinians. But, as long as the Arab Palestinians wallow in cultural self-pity (as the virtual victims they portray), and "the virtual absence of border controls" --- the less likely it is that we will observe any significant improvement in the Human Development of the Arab Palestinian people.

The Arab Palestinian approach focuses on expanding the conflict and using "armed struggle and jihad" --- rather than focusing on economic growth and the pursuit of greater opportunities for all. Income growth is an important means to development, rather than an end in itself.

Most Respectfully,
R

• There are some Arab Palestinians that believe the old boundaries outlined by the Allied Powers when they established the Mandate are the international boundaries for Palestine. This would encompass all of Israel.​

Indeed, and nobody has ever proved otherwise.

Apart from everyone on here that shows they clearly state they are the borders of the MANDATE OF PALESTINE hereinafter to be called palestine.

Produce your link and I will highlight this part for you

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes he's quibbling with the words to avoid the point of discussion.

Of course we all know that by "Mandate" (in this sense) the meaning was: "The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." Palestine Order in Council

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

(COMMENT)

The territory, which was defined solely by the Allied Powers> Having said that, did you answer the question?

Most Respectfully
R

The Mandate was appointed to Palestine. Palestine existed with or without the Mandate.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

What you consider legal is outside reality.

I never have. I don't see anything where Israel has ever legally acquired any land.

(COMMENT)

Israel, under the Declarative Theory on State Recognition, announced its intentions and it territorial boundaries. Upon external interference by the Arab League, it successfully defended that territory (Under Chapter VII) and further gain control of additional territory within the Perimeter of the Armistice Lines. While the Armistice Lines were not intended to be the actual boundaries --- the Israeli Treaties with Egypt and Jordan settled the International Boundary issues relevant to the territory covering the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

•• Article 3(1) The international boundary between Jordan and Israel is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I (a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and coordinates specified therein. Treaty with Jordan

•• Article II The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel in the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace. Treaty with Egypt
​

Position of the Government of Lebanon

"In resolution 425 (1978), the Security Council called for the “strict respect for the territorial integrity, sovereignty and political independence of Lebanon within its internationally recognized boundaries”. It also called upon Israel to “withdraw forthwith its forces from all Lebanese territory”. The Security Council also decided “in light of the request of the Government of Lebanon to establish immediately under its authority a United Nations interim force for Southern Lebanon”, one of the tasks of which would be to confirm the withdrawal of Israeli forces. As mentioned in the report of the Secretary-General of 22 May 2000 on the implementation of Security Council resolutions 425 (1978) and 426 (1978), for the purpose of confirming the Israeli withdrawal, the United Nations needed to “identify a line to be adopted conforming to the internationally recognized boundaries of Lebanon based on the best available cartographic and other documentary material”. The United Nations would then identify “physically on the ground those portions of the line necessary or relevant to confirming the withdrawal of Israeli forces”. The report of the Secretary-General also stated that the international boundary between Israel and Lebanon was established pursuant to the 1923 Agreement between France and Great Britain entitled “Boundary Line between Syria and Palestine from the Mediterranean to El Hamme”. This line was reaffirmed in the “Israeli-Lebanese General Armistice Agreement signed on 23 March 1949”. Subsequently there were several modifications mutually agreed by Israel and Lebanon. (Security Council S-2000/590 16 June 2000)

The Arab Palestinian, unlike the four adjacent Arab League Nations, never attempted to establish an agreement on the boundaries. They remain an agenda item under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine already has international borders. They don't need to negotiate anything.

So when did this nation of palestine borders get negotiated and who signed for palestine. How about a link then tinny as you bragged you ALWAYS give links

And not your usual link to the Mandate of Palestine borders

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

The LoN acted as the sovereign ruler of all the former Ottoman lands and delineated the borders. If as you claim the mandate was not a nation then palestine could not have been invented and given borders because the borders you use happen to be those of the MANDATE OF PALESTINE

Unless you want to prove me wrong with links to your evidence ?

I have proven you wrong many times but you keep marching on with Israel's lies like a good little boy.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes he's quibbling with the words to avoid the point of discussion.

Of course we all know that by "Mandate" (in this sense) the meaning was: "The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." Palestine Order in Council

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

(COMMENT)

The territory, which was defined solely by the Allied Powers> Having said that, did you answer the question?

Most Respectfully
R

The Mandate was appointed to Palestine. Palestine existed with or without the Mandate.

WRONG AGAIN you are deliberately confusing the MANDATE with the MANDATORY.

Go and educate yourself as to the difference

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

What you consider legal is outside reality.

(COMMENT)

Israel, under the Declarative Theory on State Recognition, announced its intentions and it territorial boundaries. Upon external interference by the Arab League, it successfully defended that territory (Under Chapter VII) and further gain control of additional territory within the Perimeter of the Armistice Lines. While the Armistice Lines were not intended to be the actual boundaries --- the Israeli Treaties with Egypt and Jordan settled the International Boundary issues relevant to the territory covering the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

•• Article 3(1) The international boundary between Jordan and Israel is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I (a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and coordinates specified therein. Treaty with Jordan

•• Article II The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel in the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace. Treaty with Egypt
​

Position of the Government of Lebanon

"In resolution 425 (1978), the Security Council called for the “strict respect for the territorial integrity, sovereignty and political independence of Lebanon within its internationally recognized boundaries”. It also called upon Israel to “withdraw forthwith its forces from all Lebanese territory”. The Security Council also decided “in light of the request of the Government of Lebanon to establish immediately under its authority a United Nations interim force for Southern Lebanon”, one of the tasks of which would be to confirm the withdrawal of Israeli forces. As mentioned in the report of the Secretary-General of 22 May 2000 on the implementation of Security Council resolutions 425 (1978) and 426 (1978), for the purpose of confirming the Israeli withdrawal, the United Nations needed to “identify a line to be adopted conforming to the internationally recognized boundaries of Lebanon based on the best available cartographic and other documentary material”. The United Nations would then identify “physically on the ground those portions of the line necessary or relevant to confirming the withdrawal of Israeli forces”. The report of the Secretary-General also stated that the international boundary between Israel and Lebanon was established pursuant to the 1923 Agreement between France and Great Britain entitled “Boundary Line between Syria and Palestine from the Mediterranean to El Hamme”. This line was reaffirmed in the “Israeli-Lebanese General Armistice Agreement signed on 23 March 1949”. Subsequently there were several modifications mutually agreed by Israel and Lebanon. (Security Council S-2000/590 16 June 2000)

The Arab Palestinian, unlike the four adjacent Arab League Nations, never attempted to establish an agreement on the boundaries. They remain an agenda item under the Permanent Status of Negotiations.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine already has international borders. They don't need to negotiate anything.

So when did this nation of palestine borders get negotiated and who signed for palestine. How about a link then tinny as you bragged you ALWAYS give links

And not your usual link to the Mandate of Palestine borders

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

The LoN acted as the sovereign ruler of all the former Ottoman lands and delineated the borders. If as you claim the mandate was not a nation then palestine could not have been invented and given borders because the borders you use happen to be those of the MANDATE OF PALESTINE

Unless you want to prove me wrong with links to your evidence ?

I have proven you wrong many times but you keep marching on with Israel's lies like a good little boy.

Only in your personal fantasy world, in the real one you could not even prove yourself wrong and you have tried vewry hard to do so.


Now about these links to your evidence ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes he's quibbling with the words to avoid the point of discussion.

Of course we all know that by "Mandate" (in this sense) the meaning was: "The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." Palestine Order in Council

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

(COMMENT)

The territory, which was defined solely by the Allied Powers> Having said that, did you answer the question?

Most Respectfully
R

I did.

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes he's quibbling with the words to avoid the point of discussion.

Of course we all know that by "Mandate" (in this sense) the meaning was: "The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." Palestine Order in Council

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

(COMMENT)

The territory, which was defined solely by the Allied Powers> Having said that, did you answer the question?

Most Respectfully
R

The Mandate was appointed to Palestine. Palestine existed with or without the Mandate.

WRONG AGAIN you are deliberately confusing the MANDATE with the MANDATORY.

Go and educate yourself as to the difference

No link?

Of course not.

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes he's quibbling with the words to avoid the point of discussion.

Of course we all know that by "Mandate" (in this sense) the meaning was: "The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." Palestine Order in Council

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

(COMMENT)

The territory, which was defined solely by the Allied Powers> Having said that, did you answer the question?

Most Respectfully
R

I did.

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

No you ducked and deflected because you know you are WRONG

Then palestine cant exist as it was created out of the LoN MANDATE

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes he's quibbling with the words to avoid the point of discussion.

Of course we all know that by "Mandate" (in this sense) the meaning was: "The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." Palestine Order in Council

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

(COMMENT)

The territory, which was defined solely by the Allied Powers> Having said that, did you answer the question?

Most Respectfully
R

The Mandate was appointed to Palestine. Palestine existed with or without the Mandate.

WRONG AGAIN you are deliberately confusing the MANDATE with the MANDATORY.

Go and educate yourself as to the difference

No link?

Of course not.

Thats right you are for ever more to be known as no link tinman. Your own posts prove this if you look as you dont even know what the MANDATE was.

The Mandate is the multilateral binding agreement which laid down the Jewish legal right to settle anywhere in the geographical area called Palestine, the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, an entitlement unaltered in international law. A legal and binding undertaking.
The mandatory was the elected nation that acted as the government of the MANDATE until such time as the inhabitants could show they were capable of ruling themselves and able to stand on their own

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes he's quibbling with the words to avoid the point of discussion.

Of course we all know that by "Mandate" (in this sense) the meaning was: "The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." Palestine Order in Council

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

(COMMENT)

The territory, which was defined solely by the Allied Powers> Having said that, did you answer the question?

Most Respectfully
R

I did.

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

No you ducked and deflected because you know you are WRONG

Then palestine cant exist as it was created out of the LoN MANDATE

Can you prove that point?

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes he's quibbling with the words to avoid the point of discussion.

Of course we all know that by "Mandate" (in this sense) the meaning was: "The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." Palestine Order in Council

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

(COMMENT)

The territory, which was defined solely by the Allied Powers> Having said that, did you answer the question?

Most Respectfully
R

I did.

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

The LoN MANDATE OF PALESTINE was a country in INTERNATIONAL LAW otherwise no nation in the former Ottoman Empire could exist.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes he's quibbling with the words to avoid the point of discussion.

Of course we all know that by "Mandate" (in this sense) the meaning was: "The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." Palestine Order in Council

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

(COMMENT)

The territory, which was defined solely by the Allied Powers> Having said that, did you answer the question?

Most Respectfully
R

The Mandate was appointed to Palestine. Palestine existed with or without the Mandate.

WRONG AGAIN you are deliberately confusing the MANDATE with the MANDATORY.

Go and educate yourself as to the difference

No link?

Of course not.

Thats right you are for ever more to be known as no link tinman. Your own posts prove this if you look as you dont even know what the MANDATE was.

The Mandate is the multilateral binding agreement which laid down the Jewish legal right to settle anywhere in the geographical area called Palestine, the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, an entitlement unaltered in international law. A legal and binding undertaking.
The mandatory was the elected nation that acted as the government of the MANDATE until such time as the inhabitants could show they were capable of ruling themselves and able to stand on their own

Are you still blabbering on with nothing to prove your point?

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes he's quibbling with the words to avoid the point of discussion.

Of course we all know that by "Mandate" (in this sense) the meaning was: "The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." Palestine Order in Council

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

(COMMENT)

The territory, which was defined solely by the Allied Powers> Having said that, did you answer the question?

Most Respectfully
R

I did.

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

No you ducked and deflected because you know you are WRONG

Then palestine cant exist as it was created out of the LoN MANDATE

Can you prove that point?

Your criteria used against you as without the MANDATE the LoN is still the sovereign ruler of the Ottoman Empire ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes he's quibbling with the words to avoid the point of discussion.

Of course we all know that by "Mandate" (in this sense) the meaning was: "The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." Palestine Order in Council

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

(COMMENT)

The territory, which was defined solely by the Allied Powers> Having said that, did you answer the question?

Most Respectfully
R

I did.

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

The LoN MANDATE OF PALESTINE was a country in INTERNATIONAL LAW otherwise no nation in the former Ottoman Empire could exist.

Where do you get this shit?

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes he's quibbling with the words to avoid the point of discussion.

Of course we all know that by "Mandate" (in this sense) the meaning was: "The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." Palestine Order in Council

(COMMENT)

The territory, which was defined solely by the Allied Powers> Having said that, did you answer the question?

Most Respectfully
R

The Mandate was appointed to Palestine. Palestine existed with or without the Mandate.

WRONG AGAIN you are deliberately confusing the MANDATE with the MANDATORY.

Go and educate yourself as to the difference

No link?

Of course not.

Thats right you are for ever more to be known as no link tinman. Your own posts prove this if you look as you dont even know what the MANDATE was.

The Mandate is the multilateral binding agreement which laid down the Jewish legal right to settle anywhere in the geographical area called Palestine, the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, an entitlement unaltered in international law. A legal and binding undertaking.
The mandatory was the elected nation that acted as the government of the MANDATE until such time as the inhabitants could show they were capable of ruling themselves and able to stand on their own

Are you still blabbering on with nothing to prove your point?

Proven many times but you will never accept any proof that destroys your POV.


Why dont you define what you see as the Mandate of Palestine

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes he's quibbling with the words to avoid the point of discussion.

Of course we all know that by "Mandate" (in this sense) the meaning was: "The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." Palestine Order in Council

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

(COMMENT)

The territory, which was defined solely by the Allied Powers> Having said that, did you answer the question?

Most Respectfully
R

I did.

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

The LoN MANDATE OF PALESTINE was a country in INTERNATIONAL LAW otherwise no nation in the former Ottoman Empire could exist.

Where do you get this shit?

From reading all about International law and how it applies to Israel. The treaty of Sevres and the treaty of Lausanne both state that the LoN were the new soveriegn owners of the former Ottoman Empire with the power to dispose of the lands as they saw fit. Look up the relevant treaties and who and what they apply to

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Mandate was appointed to Palestine. Palestine existed with or without the Mandate.

WRONG AGAIN you are deliberately confusing the MANDATE with the MANDATORY.

Go and educate yourself as to the difference

No link?

Of course not.

Thats right you are for ever more to be known as no link tinman. Your own posts prove this if you look as you dont even know what the MANDATE was.

The Mandate is the multilateral binding agreement which laid down the Jewish legal right to settle anywhere in the geographical area called Palestine, the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, an entitlement unaltered in international law. A legal and binding undertaking.
The mandatory was the elected nation that acted as the government of the MANDATE until such time as the inhabitants could show they were capable of ruling themselves and able to stand on their own

Are you still blabbering on with nothing to prove your point?

Proven many times but you will never accept any proof that destroys your POV.


Why dont you define what you see as the Mandate of Palestine

The mandate was a temporarily appointed administration to Palestine.

Palestine had to exist before the Mandate could be appointed to it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes he's quibbling with the words to avoid the point of discussion.

Of course we all know that by "Mandate" (in this sense) the meaning was: "The limits of this Order are the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies, hereinafter described as Palestine." Palestine Order in Council

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

(COMMENT)

The territory, which was defined solely by the Allied Powers> Having said that, did you answer the question?

Most Respectfully
R

I did.

The Mandate was not a country. It had no land or borders.

The LoN MANDATE OF PALESTINE was a country in INTERNATIONAL LAW otherwise no nation in the former Ottoman Empire could exist.

Where do you get this shit?

From reading all about International law and how it applies to Israel. The treaty of Sevres and the treaty of Lausanne both state that the LoN were the new soveriegn owners of the former Ottoman Empire with the power to dispose of the lands as they saw fit. Look up the relevant treaties and who and what they apply to

Passage and link?

 

[Hollie]

WRONG AGAIN you are deliberately confusing the MANDATE with the MANDATORY.

Go and educate yourself as to the difference

No link?

Of course not.

Thats right you are for ever more to be known as no link tinman. Your own posts prove this if you look as you dont even know what the MANDATE was.

The Mandate is the multilateral binding agreement which laid down the Jewish legal right to settle anywhere in the geographical area called Palestine, the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, an entitlement unaltered in international law. A legal and binding undertaking.
The mandatory was the elected nation that acted as the government of the MANDATE until such time as the inhabitants could show they were capable of ruling themselves and able to stand on their own

Are you still blabbering on with nothing to prove your point?

Proven many times but you will never accept any proof that destroys your POV.


Why dont you define what you see as the Mandate of Palestine

The mandate was a temporarily appointed administration to Palestine.

Palestine had to exist before the Mandate could be appointed to it.

Your mythical 'Pal'istan" existed as a reference to a geographical area. You seem to have some romantic notion toward 'Pal'istan" as others have toward Atlantis. Assigning myth and legend as you do represents a break from reality.