Some Of The Biggest Lies Being Spread About The Jan. 6 Insurrection

[bripat9643]

You are very confused person. The committee collects the information. The justice department and their courts decide whether to prosecute or not.

Legal evidence is presented in a court of law, not some Congressional committee, you fucking moron.

The courts are the only body that can convict someone of crimes. These people have already had their day in court.

No they haven't. It was a plea bargain, which means no trial.

 

[mudwhistle]

Can you explain why a huge mob from the Trump MAGA cult would not be a weapon in sheer numbers of stupid Trump voters that could easily overwhelm Capitol Police without firing shot?

Hiw many of the 30,000 would have followed Trump into the Capitol and how long could they disrupt the proceeding with Trump in there with them.

You're talking about a hypothetical that didn't happen and everyone knows it didn't happen.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

You're talking about a hypothetical that didn't happen and everyone knows it didn't happen.

You are a liar. Trump made at least three attempts to stay in power after losing the election in a landslide victory for Biden.

He tried to have state officials “find votes” HE Tried the Eastman fake Republican electors coup plot involving his vice president Mike Pence. And after those two attempts failed to materialize he demanded his Secret Service take him to the Capitol so he himself could lead a partially armed mob to destroy and disrupt the peaceful transfer of power to the rightful president following the 2020 election. Thats real Trump Bozo.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

No.....he had sworn statements from a bunch of witnesses.

Yeah, in the 1,000's but not ONE willing to testify, under oath?
Seems like if they were so adamant, at least ONE person would step up.

Why didn't they?

Because lying under oath puts you in jail.
A signed affidavit rarely does.

 

[sealybobo]

And he put that in a sworn affidavit

None of the sworn affidavits found any wrong doing. And none of their claims were lies. They were just things they didn't like. Like, "the vote counter kept telling me to back up and wouldn't let me see every vote". Then you find out they weren't supposed to be allowed behind the booth to also be counting the votes. They were just there to observe.

Or, "a black woman was rude to me and wouldn't let me in". Turns out, there were already enough poll watchers back there.

Point is, none of them said anything that was a lie that could be found to be a lie. They truly believed what they saw was wrong but the fact is, they were wrong. They wanted to see wrong doing so badly they saw it where it wasn't happening.

Evidence? Hearsay? Voter fraud claims in affidavits, explained

While no hard evidence has been discovered to support widespread voter fraud claims in the 2020 election, plenty of people have signed their name to sworn testimony.

www.clickondetroit.com

Over 7,000 affidavits delivered to Michigan lawmakers claim election fraud

(The Center Square) – Hundreds of people concerned about the integrity of the Nov. 2020 election gathered outside the Michigan Capitol Thursday to protest and deliver roughly 7,000 affidavits claiming

www.thecentersquare.com

This affidavit strategy was just that. A strategy. Another reason to not count or certify the vote. If there were 7000 affidavits then there must have been election fraud right? WRONG!

Affidavits Alleging Voter Fraud Accuse Poll Workers of Wearing Black Lives Matter Clothing​

234 pages of affidavits released by the Trump campaign—which they say show evidence of voter fraud—include complaints that Democrat counting volunteers wore Black Lives Matter clothing and were "verbally aggressive" and one claim that it was "odd" members of the military voted for Joe Biden

 

[sealybobo]

Signed and sworn statements from more than 100 people included in a new lawsuit filed in a Michigan federal court by the campaign of President Donald Trump allege misconduct in the processing and counting of ballots in Detroit.

They are part of a broader, national legal strategy Trump and his campaign are employing as they try to discredit and dispute the results of the presidential election, won by Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

While poll challengers say they that were denied access to portions of the vote counting, that their challenges were not taken seriously or that several different types of ballot processing errors occurred, the allegations do not show proof of widespread fraud or egregious misconduct.

Just another strategy to stop the vote. If the riot didn't work, maybe this would.

Scandalous.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

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i. “In Defense of Mike Pence, as He Declares His Candidacy for 2024” 230726 {post•156}. HikerGuy83 Jul’23 230716: the idea that Januay 6th could have actually achieved some alternative outcome has never been convincingly made. hkrgy 230716 Sidomp00156


ii. Proof-of-citizenship voting bill push could threaten government shutdown 240909 {post•138}. daveman Sep’24 Spocvbs: Pence would have been correct to not certify until the allegations of cheating were investigated. dvmn 240909 Spocvb00138


iii. Proof-of-citizenship voting bill push could threaten government shutdown 240908 {post•130}. daveman Sep’24 Spocvb: That one illegal vote disenfranchises a United State's citizen's vote. You're okay with that? Why? dvmn 240908 Spocvb00130


iv. Some Of The Biggest Lies Being Spread About The Jan. 6 Insurrection 220525 {post•1359}. NotfooledbyW May’22 Vsotbl: The harm inflicted is not equal. The Trump voters are not harmed by disenfranchisement because their vote ultimately wins after having actually lost.

The harm of disenfranchisement falls on the Biden voters because their candidate won but never gets to represent them and their interest because Mike Pence decided to throw out their votes.

Most Trump voters being white makes this a white coup against the multicultural Democratic Party where 90 percent of all black voters choose to be represented,

When DJT attempted to harm that many black Americans by canceling their votes to make his white base happy as he said on Jan6 it would have becoime reality that millions of white Trump voters are happy that Trump could do harm to millions of black Americans with his fake electors scheme, …. it is racist nfbw 220525 Vsotbl01359

v. Trump and Evangelical religion pro's and con's. Should Religion even be involved in the election? 240831 {post•265 to 256} daveman Aug’24 Staerp: I am a Christian. dvmn 240831 Staerp00265


vi. Some Of The Biggest Lies Being Spread About The Jan. 6 Insurrection 240910 {post•1507}

NotfooledbyW Sep’24 Vsotbl: In paragraph ii. Saint_Daveman expresses his support for the purified white party coup over the multi-color party that won the 2020 presidential election. I have explained in paragraph iv. How Donald Trump’s plan for Mike Pence to recognize the fake electors from several eights that was a racist coup attempt.

It appears the white party is setting up more obstruction if the outcome is close or if the party loses again.

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[NotfooledbyW]

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i. Trump Has A First Amendment Right To Say The Election Was Stolen. 220714 {post•97}. HandleTheTruth Jul’22 Vthafa: What Trump doesn't have a right to do is start an insurrection. hndlthtrth 220714 Vthafa00097


ii. Trump Has A First Amendment Right To Say The Election Was Stolen. 220726 {post•265 to 97}. daveman Jul’22 said: Good thing he didn't. dvmn 220716 S00265.


iii. Proof-of-citizenship voting bill push could threaten government shutdown 240909 {post•138}. daveman Sep’24 Spocvb: Pence would have been correct to not certify until the allegations of cheating were investigated. dvmn 240909 Spocvb00138


iv. Some Of The Biggest Lies Being Spread About The Jan. 6 Insurrection 240910 {post•1508}

NotfooledbyW Sep’24 Vsotbj: What I am seeing in the not too distant future based upon Saint_Daveman’s paragraph ii is that Kamala Harris will be our next president no matter what the voters decide. You see if she loses all she has to do is exercise her first amendment right to say the election was. She may come to “think “the states of Florida, Ohio, and Texas The machines to swutch votes from her to Don Trump. According to Saint daveman since Kamala will preside over the counting of the electoral votes on January 6, 2025 She would be correct not to certify the winner of Florida, Ohio, and Texas until all the allegations are cheating have been investigated.

These investigations could take over a year, which means that Donald Trump will not be inaugurated January 20, 2025.

Of course, MAGA will not stand for it. They will all be locked and loaded and ready to start shooting any Democrat they see in the streets, not really knowing who voted for home except they can assume that black and brown people voted for Kamala

So they start shooting them.

In the meantime, Joe Biden becomes unfit to serve so MAGA chaos caused by what Kamala Harris thinks becomes the norm So Kamala takes over as a continuation of the Biden ministration to deal with the MAGA violence, Martial law is enforced. Trump’s trials begin.

It’s all in the deep state plans.

And Saint_Daveman posts Kamala was correct to not certify until the allegations of cheating were investigated


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[Hollie]

The events from last Jan. 6 in Washington unfolded on live television but they've since been up for debate.

Millions of Americans watched the events in Washington last Jan. 6 unfold on live television. Police officers testified to the violence and mayhem. Criminal proceedings in open court detailed what happened.

Yet the hoaxes, conspiracy theories and attempts to rewrite history persist, muddying the public’s understanding of what actually occurred during the most sustained attack on the seat of American democracy since the War of 1812.

By excusing former President Donald Trump of responsibility, minimizing the mob’s violence and casting the rioters as martyrs, falsehoods about the insurrection aim to deflect blame for Jan. 6 while sustaining Trump’s unfounded claims about the free and fair election in 2020 that he lost.

Spread by politicians, broadcast by cable news pundits and amplified by social media, the falsehoods are a stark reminder of how many Americans may no longer trust their own institutions or their own eyes.

Several different conspiracy theories have emerged in the year since the insurrection, according to an analysis of online content by media intelligence firm Zignal Labs on behalf of The Associated Press. Unfounded claims that the rioters were members of antifa went viral first, only to be overtaken by a baseless claim blaming FBI operatives. Other theories say the rioters were peaceful and were framed for crimes that never happened.

Claim: The Rioters Weren’t Trump Supporters​

In fact, many of those who came to the Capitol on Jan. 6 have said — proudly, publicly, repeatedly — that they did so to help the then-president.

Claim: The Rioters Weren’t Violent​

Dozens of police officers were severely injured. One Capitol Police officer who was attacked and assaulted with bear spray suffered a stroke and died a day later of natural causes.

Claim: Trump Did Not Encourage The Rioters​

Trump may now want to minimize his involvement, but he spent months sounding a steadydrumbeat of conspiracy theory and grievance, urging his followers to fight to somehow return him to power.

Claim: Ashli Babbitt Was Killed By An Officer Working For Democrats​

Babbitt died after being shot in the shoulder by a lieutenant in the Capitol Police force as she and others pressed to enter the Speaker’s Lobby outside the House chamber.
Trump falsely claimed the officer was the head of security “for a certain high official, a Democrat,” and was being shielded from accountability. He also misstated where Babbitt was shot.

Claim: The Jan. 6 Suspects Are Political Prisoners And Are Being Mistreated​

No, they are not, despite some assertions from members of Congress.

While it’s true some of the suspects have complained about their time in jail, it’s wrong to argue they’re being held as political prisoners. Authorities have said the suspects in custody are being given the same access to food and medical care as any other inmate.

One of the most notorious rioters, Jacob Chansley, known as the QAnon Shaman, was given organic food in his jail cell after he complained about the food options.

Much more at the link below...

Some Of The Biggest Lies Being Spread About The Jan. 6 Insurrection

The events from last Jan. 6 in Washington unfolded on live television but they've since been up for debate.

www.huffpost.com

We all know what really happened on January 6 - so why do some people keep lying about it and spreading false conspiracy theories?

Claim: there was some "insurrrection. Biggest lie of all.

 

[Stann]

Claim: there was some "insurrrection. Biggest lie of all.

Fortunately it was a failed insurrection. That's why those involved weren't charged with insurrection. It was another trump failure.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Claim: there was some "insurrrection. Biggest lie of all.

What do you call Don Trump‘s attempt to stay in power several ways but certainly we know he tried to use fake certificates of electors if he could get Mike Pence to recognize them as real

 

[Hollie]

Fortunately it was a failed insurrection. That's why those involved weren't charged with insurrection. It was another trump failure.

Your "insurrection" was attempted by a guy wearing a hat with horns. Your "insurrection" was accompanied by police escorting people around. That is your failure. Odd there was no one charged with " insurrection".

 

[Stann]

Your "insurrection" was attempted by a guy wearing a hat with horns. Your "insurrection" was accompanied by police escorting people around. That is your failure. Odd there was no one charged with " insurrection".

If that's all you witnessed you are a very poor observer or willfully being dishonest or both.

 

[Stann]

Your "insurrection" was attempted by a guy wearing a hat with horns. Your "insurrection" was accompanied by police escorting people around. That is your failure. Odd there was no one charged with " insurrection".

Again they could only be charged with a insurrection if it was successful. The spearhead conspirators ( militia leaders ) were charged with seditious conspiracy ( aka: attempting an insurrection ).

 

[Hollie]

Again they could only be charged with a insurrection if it was successful. The spearhead conspirators ( militia leaders ) were charged with seditious conspiracy ( aka: attempting an insurrection ).

Nonsense. A crime doesn't have to be "successful" to lead to charges. There were no charges of "insurrection" because there was no such crime.

 

[Stann]

Nonsense. A crime doesn't have to be "successful" to lead to charges. There were no charges of "insurrection" because there was no such crime.

I can't help you , you choose to be stupid.

 

[Hollie]

I can't help you , you choose to be stupid.

A pathetic sidestep and skedaddle.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Your "insurrection" was attempted by a guy wearing a hat with horns. Your "insurrection" was accompanied by police escorting people around

Are you observing the world through a Biblical worldview?

 

[Hollie]

Are you observing the world through a Biblical worldview?

A reality based worldview.

 

[Stann]

A pathetic sidestep and skedaddle.

You truly are pathetic.