Some Americans simply LACK perspective...

[SAYIT]

If you really want to learn the history of that area.....look up the McMahon Agreement.....and the Balfour Declaration. Both these "accords" show the calumny of the Brits, and the British crown being bought out by the Zionist Rothchilds....

No they don't.

You just fabricated more lies to cover your earlier ones but since you are at it, please post a link to your "British crown being bought out by the Zionist Rothchilds" BS.
I'd like to know where you Nazi types get your "facts."

 

[peach174]

In the midst of the usual back-n-forth of the insults that go on in this forum, sometimes I marvel at the lack of perspective (aka education) that exists among Americans. There should NEVER be an acceptance of terrorist acts against one another, but to completely neglect the perspective that brings forth such horrible acts should also be acknowledged. For example:

a. You'll read that on 9-11, it was Muslims that attacked us....TRUE and unacceptable; but did SOME Muslims just wake up one day and decided to attack us......or is there a deeper and long-festering reason for such abject animosity?

b. We also read that in the half-century plus struggle between Israel and Palestinians, the blame for such bloodshed is due to Palestinians NOT being entitled to a sovereign Palestine because prior to the European Jews' exodus to that land, there was NO Palestine. Think for a moment on the ridiculous premise and the lack of perspective.

c. Finally, we also read of Iranians as those "evil people" that took over our embassy in '79, fund terrorism and now want a nuclear arsenal to kill Jews and Americans. Has no one ever heard of our coup d'etat on Mossadegh, the dreaded Savaak, the Shah's terrible reign, etc.?

Just a few example of our knee-jerk response to world events and the complete lack of perspective not only due to biases and prejudices, but also our lack of historical education.

So what did the newly formed America do to the Muslims who captured our ships and enslaved our sailors and merchants?
Muslims extremists have always hated the Western World because the Western World, according to their beliefs, does not follow or promote the wishes of their creator of the universe.
Even if we never interfered with them they would still hate us because we don't follow the Muslim way of life.
Our women are wicked because they don't cover themselves. They work, drive & are educated. Westerners drink and eat pork.
To them all westerners are evil and need to convert to Islam or be killed.

 

[The Rabbi]

In the midst of the usual back-n-forth of the insults that go on in this forum, sometimes I marvel at the lack of perspective (aka education) that exists among Americans. There should NEVER be an acceptance of terrorist acts against one another, but to completely neglect the perspective that brings forth such horrible acts should also be acknowledged. For example:

a. You'll read that on 9-11, it was Muslims that attacked us....TRUE and unacceptable; but did SOME Muslims just wake up one day and decided to attack us......or is there a deeper and long-festering reason for such abject animosity?

b. We also read that in the half-century plus struggle between Israel and Palestinians, the blame for such bloodshed is due to Palestinians NOT being entitled to a sovereign Palestine because prior to the European Jews' exodus to that land, there was NO Palestine. Think for a moment on the ridiculous premise and the lack of perspective.

c. Finally, we also read of Iranians as those "evil people" that took over our embassy in '79, fund terrorism and now want a nuclear arsenal to kill Jews and Americans. Has no one ever heard of our coup d'etat on Mossadegh, the dreaded Savaak, the Shah's terrible reign, etc.?

Just a few example of our knee-jerk response to world events and the complete lack of perspective not only due to biases and prejudices, but also our lack of historical education.

Yes!
Some woman got raped. Did a guy just wake up one morning and decide he would rape someone. Or did the woman entice him by what she was wearing? Or did she lead him on? Or antagonize him in some way? Isnt she just as responsible for her own rape as the rapist himself?

Oh wait, when put that way it is socially unacceptable to blame the victim. Yet that is exactly what the OP does. There is no, none, excuse for terrorism and murder. Not at all.

That is not at all a reasonable comparison and you should know that. US involvement in many of these countries involved policies that benefited the US regardless as to the consequences to those countries. That doesn't necessarily excuse or condone any particular action by these people or countries against us but it must be taken into account as to the reasoning behind it.

Nothing excuses terrorism and the murder of innocent people. Nothing.

 

[nat4900]

There were Jews living in the are long before the British shipped the Holocaust survivors there, dumbass.

Well, there were Jews in Hungary also....but it did not make Hungary an automatic, Israel.

That's stupid, even for you.

So because there were SOME Jews living in Palestine, the entire area should be turned over to them?

(wait until those Catholics in Brooklyn find out about this new "rule" of yours) LOL

 

[The Rabbi]

There were Jews living in the are long before the British shipped the Holocaust survivors there, dumbass.

Well, there were Jews in Hungary also....but it did not make Hungary an automatic, Israel.

That's stupid, even for you.

So because there were SOME Jews living in Palestine, the entire area should be turned over to them?

(wait until those Catholics in Brooklyn find out about this new "rule" of yours) LOL

No, idiot. Because it was the homeland of the Jews. And the British promised. And the UN voted for it. It was never the homeland of the Palestinians because there is no such people as Palestinians.

 

[nat4900]

No, idiot. Because it was the homeland of the Jews. And the British promised. And the UN voted for it. It was never the homeland of the Palestinians because there is no such people as Palestinians.[/QUOTE]

Congratulations.....you OUTDID even your usual level of imbecility. LOL

 

[nat4900]

No they don't.

You just fabricated more lies to cover your earlier ones but since you are at it, please post a link to your "British crown being bought out by the Zionist Rothchilds" BS.
I'd like to know where you Nazi types get your "facts."

You can lead a horse to water.....but you can't ever make a right winger THINK outside of what FOX told them to "think." LOL

 

[eagle7_31]

No they don't.

You just fabricated more lies to cover your earlier ones but since you are at it, please post a link to your "British crown being bought out by the Zionist Rothchilds" BS.
I'd like to know where you Nazi types get your "facts."

You can lead a horse to water.....but you can't ever make a right winger THINK outside of what FOX told them to "think." LOL

Spoken like a true Obamabot. can't see beyond their nose.

 

[peach174]

In the midst of the usual back-n-forth of the insults that go on in this forum, sometimes I marvel at the lack of perspective (aka education) that exists among Americans. There should NEVER be an acceptance of terrorist acts against one another, but to completely neglect the perspective that brings forth such horrible acts should also be acknowledged. For example:

a. You'll read that on 9-11, it was Muslims that attacked us....TRUE and unacceptable; but did SOME Muslims just wake up one day and decided to attack us......or is there a deeper and long-festering reason for such abject animosity?

b. We also read that in the half-century plus struggle between Israel and Palestinians, the blame for such bloodshed is due to Palestinians NOT being entitled to a sovereign Palestine because prior to the European Jews' exodus to that land, there was NO Palestine. Think for a moment on the ridiculous premise and the lack of perspective.

c. Finally, we also read of Iranians as those "evil people" that took over our embassy in '79, fund terrorism and now want a nuclear arsenal to kill Jews and Americans. Has no one ever heard of our coup d'etat on Mossadegh, the dreaded Savaak, the Shah's terrible reign, etc.?

Just a few example of our knee-jerk response to world events and the complete lack of perspective not only due to biases and prejudices, but also our lack of historical education.

So what did the newly formed America do to the Muslims who captured our ships and enslaved our sailors and merchants?
Muslims extremists have always hated the Western World because the Western World, according to their beliefs, does not follow or promote the wishes of their creator of the universe.
Even if we never interfered with them they would still hate us because we don't follow the Muslim way of life.
Our women are wicked because they don't cover themselves. They work, drive & are educated. Westerners drink and eat pork.
To them all westerners are evil and need to convert to Islam or be killed.

Why is that so funny to you?
It's fact.

 

[nat4900]

Spoken like a true Obamabot. can't see beyond their nose.

You may be dumb, but you're funny whenever you post your non sequitur stupidity. LOL

 

[nat4900]

Why is that so funny to you?
It's fact.

Its YOUR fact....may be stupid.....but it is indeed your fact. Find some book without cartoons in it.

 

[eagle7_31]

Spoken like a true Obamabot. can't see beyond their nose.

You may be dumb, but you're funny whenever you post your non sequitur stupidity. LOL

Being called dumb by you is like Mike Tyson calling someone a thug.

 

[nat4900]

Being called dumb by you is like Mike Tyson calling someone a thug.

No. no....don't get me wrong....Keep posting since we all need that comic relief every once in a while.

 

[eagle7_31]

Being called dumb by you is like Mike Tyson calling someone a thug.

No. no....don't get me wrong....Keep posting since we all need that comic relief every once in a while.

we get that from the looney left wingers like yourself.

 

[peach174]

Why is that so funny to you?
It's fact.

Its YOUR fact....may be stupid.....but it is indeed your fact. Find some book without cartoons in it.

It's not my fact, it's theirs.
It's their holy book the Koran and it seems you need to read it.
You should also read their Sharia Laws.

 

[nat4900]

It's not my fact, it's theirs.
It's their holy book the Koran and it seems you need to read it.
You should also read their Sharia Laws.

You must have read the abridged version of the Q'uran published by Murdoch.

 

[The Rabbi]

No, idiot. Because it was the homeland of the Jews. And the British promised. And the UN voted for it. It was never the homeland of the Palestinians because there is no such people as Palestinians.[/QUOTE]

Congratulations.....you OUTDID even your usual level of imbecility. LOL

Someone who cant master the quote function has no business calling anyone an imbecile. In any case your surrender on this topic is noted and accepted.

 

[nat4900]

In any case your surrender on this topic is noted and accepted.

Well, RabbiT...who could possibly argue with such a "brilliant" retort.....

 

[The Rabbi]

In any case your surrender on this topic is noted and accepted.

Well, RabbiT...who could possibly argue with such a "brilliant" retort.....

Certainly not you. BUt that's a low bar.

 

[peach174]

It's not my fact, it's theirs.
It's their holy book the Koran and it seems you need to read it.
You should also read their Sharia Laws.

You must have read the abridged version of the Q'uran published by Murdoch.

You must have never read any history on the Middle East.