So ... Where Did "Luca" Come From?

[Billy_Kinetta]

For that matter, where did the genes come from?

Scientists think they've found the origin of all earthly life

 

[Fenton Lum]

Take a molecular biology course.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Take a molecular biology course.

Where did the molecules come from?

 

[Fenton Lum]

Take a molecular biology course.

Where did the molecules come from?

You need help, you can't even get the ordering right. Get an education, it all gets covered.

 

[Auld Phart]

 

[The Great Goose]

she lives on the second floor.

yes, i think you've seen her before.

if you hear something late at night, some kind of trouble, some kind of fight, just don't ask her what it was

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Take a molecular biology course.

Where did the molecules come from?

You need help, you can't even get the ordering right. Get an education, it all gets covered.

All things that exist were caused. What caused the first?

 

[OldLady]

If God created everything, who created God?

The fact that humans are the descendants of bacteria explains a lot in relation to SOME people I know.

 

[Old Rocks]

Take a molecular biology course.

Where did the molecules come from?

You need help, you can't even get the ordering right. Get an education, it all gets covered.

All things that exist were caused. What caused the first?

The rules that govern physics and chemistry in this universe. A wise person with those questions would make a determined effort to learn those rules and what they mean.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Take a molecular biology course.

Where did the molecules come from?

You need help, you can't even get the ordering right. Get an education, it all gets covered.

All things that exist were caused. What caused the first?

The rules that govern physics and chemistry in this universe. A wise person with those questions would make a determined effort to learn those rules and what they mean.

Well ya sure as hell ain't responding to one of them.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Take a molecular biology course.

Where did the molecules come from?

You need help, you can't even get the ordering right. Get an education, it all gets covered.

All things that exist were caused. What caused the first?

The rules that govern physics and chemistry in this universe. A wise person with those questions would make a determined effort to learn those rules and what they mean.

Whence come chemical structures and physics to govern?

I have heard many answers, but none seem to find a first cause.

 

[Old Rocks]

If you want to ascribe to a Deity the initial formation of the universe and it's laws, that is fine. Science does not address that. However, to ascribe to a Deity things that we can see are natural events only creates disdain for religious faith. Right now, abiogenesis for the life we see here has many possible paths to the point where it is self replicating life. We are getting closer to the answers as to what was the most likely path as the research goes on.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

If you want to ascribe to a Deity the initial formation of the universe and it's laws, that is fine. Science does not address that. However, to ascribe to a Deity things that we can see are natural events only creates disdain for religious faith. Right now, abiogenesis for the life we see here has many possible paths to the point where it is self replicating life. We are getting closer to the answers as to what was the most likely path as the research goes on.

Perhaps. But then, it was once believed the Earth was flat and carried on the backs of giant elephants and a turtle.

"Possible paths" and "Most likely" doesn't quite cut it, eh?

All things, including the simple fact of existence, have an originating cause. What was the first cause?

 

[Old Rocks]

You know, if you insist on a 'Goddidit' argument, you are going to lose. That argument has been used so many times for things that we did not understand fully at the time, and then science found the answers. So people automatically reject the 'Goddidit' argument based on the fact that we don't yet fully understand the processes.

 

[Katzndogz]

If you want to ascribe to a Deity the initial formation of the universe and it's laws, that is fine. Science does not address that. However, to ascribe to a Deity things that we can see are natural events only creates disdain for religious faith. Right now, abiogenesis for the life we see here has many possible paths to the point where it is self replicating life. We are getting closer to the answers as to what was the most likely path as the research goes on.

Perhaps. But then, it was once believed the Earth was flat and carried on the backs of giant elephants and a turtle.

"Possible paths" and "Most likely" doesn't quite cut it, eh?

All things, including the simple fact of existence, have an originating cause. What was the first cause?

The scientific term is a singular anomaly. It only happened once and it was different from anything else that ever happened.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

You know, if you insist on a 'Goddidit' argument, you are going to lose. That argument has been used so many times for things that we did not understand fully at the time, and then science found the answers. So people automatically reject the 'Goddidit' argument based on the fact that we don't yet fully understand the processes.

I've insisted on nothing. I have merely asked a question in the hope of clarifying the origin of existence.

True, science is just magic with a rational explanation.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Take a molecular biology course.

Tell us again how molecules just randomly bumped together to form the first proteins and amino acids....I love that story

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Take a molecular biology course.

Where did the molecules come from?

You need help, you can't even get the ordering right. Get an education, it all gets covered.

All things that exist were caused. What caused the first?

The rules that govern physics and chemistry in this universe. A wise person with those questions would make a determined effort to learn those rules and what they mean.

What are the odds against 2000 amino acids banding together randonly to form the first primordial cell?