Zone1 So, what are UFO's, really?

[Woodznutz]

I think it's God's way of revealing that there is a lot more to the universe than we understand.

 

[TNHarley]

Not sure as they are unidentified

 

[Woodznutz]

Not sure as they are unidentified

I would file them as prophesied "signs and wonders in the heavens".

 

[DennisPTate]

I think it's God's way of revealing that there is a lot more to the universe than we understand.

I think that that is an excellent opinion on this challenging topic. I am especially interested in one specific UFO event that took place over the Jerusalem Temple Mount back in 2011.

ALL 6 VIDEOS - Temple Mount UFO OVNI Jerusalem, January 2011 PROOF​

I have looked into this topic a lot and my impression so far is that Steven Greer M. D. is brilliant and brutally honest to the point where he scares powerful people in high places.




There is at least some connection to a famous speech that was made by President Eisenhower.

Zone1 Thread 'Was the President Eisenhower "Military Industrial Complex" speech the best speech ever?'

Feb 15, 2026

The thought has often crossed my mind that perhaps the President Eisenhower "Military Industrial Complex" speech was one of the most important and best speeches ever done?

I believe that President Eisenhower risked his life by giving that speech. He also set the stage for what I believe will be revealed over the next ten years. 2026 to 2036 are going to be astonishing on a level where the human mind will be boggled, [at least that is what I am expecting based on the rumours that I have been hearing and reading for the last decade and more]?

In his 1961 farewell address, President...

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Operation Paperclip was a secret United States intelligence program in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians were taken from former Nazi Germany to the US for government employment after the end of World War II in Europe, between 1945 and 1959; several were confirmed to be former members of the Nazi Party, including the SS or the SA.

The effort began in earnest in 1945, as the Allies advanced into Germany and discovered a wealth of scientific talent and advanced research that had contributed to Germany's wartime technological advancements. The US Joint Chiefs of Staff officially established Operation Overcast (operations "Overcast" and "Paperclip" were related, and the terms are often used interchangeably) on July 20, 1945, with the dual aims of leveraging German expertise for the ongoing war effort against Japan and to bolster US postwar military research. The operation, conducted by the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA), was largely actioned by special agents of the US Army's Counterintelligence Corps (CIC). Many selected scientists were involved in the Nazi rocket program, aviation, or chemical/biological warfare. The Soviet Union in the following year conducted a similar program, called Operation Osoaviakhim, that emphasized many of the same fields of research.

Operation Paperclip - Wikipedia

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Could President Eisenhower been having some "second thoughts" about how Operation Paperclip was progressing?

I am of the belief that at least a certain percentage of UFO's have been "Made in the USA" but underground and were financed through Black Ops money.

 

[fncceo]

 

[alang1216]

I think it's God's way of revealing that there is a lot more to the universe than we understand.

God of the Gaps?

 

[toobfreak]

Not sure as they are unidentified

I can tell you this:

Of the four I've directly witnessed, three through a telescope, two could be rationalized as just some sort of odd weather balloon packages (though that is by no means certain), one could be dismissed as an errant inflated parade balloon or something that got away from someone, though it was moving against the wind and tumbling through the air with no means of power, but the fourth one was a group of three high flying objects showing none of the usual markers typical of airplanes which then performed maneuvers of instantaneous directional and speed changes impossible for any craft known to man that would kill any pilot and defied all known laws of physics.

And that last sighting was in the 1960s long before any possibility of any sort of unmanned vehicle.

 

[DennisPTate]

I can tell you this:

Of the four I've directly witnessed, three through a telescope, two could be rationalized as just some sort of odd weather balloon packages (though that is by no means certain), one could be dismissed as an errant inflated parade balloon or something that got away from someone, though it was moving against the wind and tumbling through the air with no means of power, but the fourth one was a group of three high flying objects showing none of the usual markers typical of airplanes which then performed maneuvers of instantaneous directional and speed changes impossible for any craft known to man that would kill any pilot and defied all known laws of physics.

And that last sighting was in the 1960s long before any possibility of any sort of unmanned vehicle.

I met a trucker in Missisauga, Ontario, Canada, who tells the following story to anybody who will listen to him. This took place twenty or more years ago, [if I remember what J.. said correctly]. He and his friend were in their truck. Grey's came down and zapped his buddy unconscious. The leader of the Grey's told J.. that his wife would die soon and that he wasn't all that healthy either. The leader Grey told J.. that they did NOT need more blue collar workers to abduct, they needed doctors, lawyers and elected officials. These Grey's did NOT Abduct J.. or his buddy. J.. tells this story as a warning for all of us.

 

[Chuz Life]

I don't necessarily believe there are any other life forms that fly their aircraft in and out of Earth's atmosphere (which would be so unlike anywhere else in our solar system, even if not the entire universe) It defies logic.

Despite that, I have called the police department (non emergency) twice - to report a strange object in the sky.

 

[toobfreak]

I met a trucker in Missisauga, Ontario, Canada, who tells the following story to anybody who will listen to him. This took place twenty or more years ago, [if I remember what J.. said correctly]. He and his friend were in their truck. Grey's came down and zapped his buddy unconscious. The leader of the Grey's told J.. that his wife would die soon and that he wasn't all that healthy either. The leader Grey told J.. that they did NOT need more blue collar workers to abduct, they needed doctors, lawyers and elected officials. These Grey's did NOT Abduct J.. or his buddy. J.. tells this story as a warning for all of us.

Well, if you want another strange story, I had a close friend that I knew for 35 years. This guy was solid. This guy could do anything, faced all manner of obstacles stoically like they were nothing and mentored me on many things. In 2010 when he was dying, the last thing he told me before dying was that in his youth, he had been abducted by aliens several times.

 

[TNHarley]

I can tell you this:

Of the four I've directly witnessed, three through a telescope, two could be rationalized as just some sort of odd weather balloon packages (though that is by no means certain), one could be dismissed as an errant inflated parade balloon or something that got away from someone, though it was moving against the wind and tumbling through the air with no means of power, but the fourth one was a group of three high flying objects showing none of the usual markers typical of airplanes which then performed maneuvers of instantaneous directional and speed changes impossible for any craft known to man that would kill any pilot and defied all known laws of physics.

And that last sighting was in the 1960s long before any possibility of any sort of unmanned vehicle.

Around 20 years or so ago, me and my ex girlfriend were waiting in a parking lot on a "friend couple" to show up to go hit the town.
As we are waiting, a very large rectangle shape thing was floating above us around 30 or 40 foot or so. It had all kinds of colored lights on it. In a blink of an eye, it was gone. We both saw it. It was wild.

 

[toobfreak]

Around 20 years or so ago, me and my ex girlfriend were waiting in a parking lot on a "friend couple" to show up to go hit the town.
As we are waiting, a very large rectangle shape thing was floating above us around 30 or 40 foot or so. It had all kinds of colored lights on it. In a blink of an eye, it was gone. We both saw it. It was wild.

I'm sure you read my story on my old friend. I've studied thousands of accounts and have seen documentaries by strangers on TV describing objects and behavior which sounded identical to things I've seen. In my youth, I spent a lot of time outside studying the sky as an amateur astronomer and am a trained observer. I typically discount a lot of stories unless they carry a high weight of credibility.

One other story I will relate I only take serious because of the source: it came from an aunt of mine who lived in a remote farm area on the Delmarva peninsula and her and my uncle were salt of the earth. She was absolutely the last person to imagine things, make up stories or pull legs; if she did, she let you know. These were people who were up at 6AM everyday at the crack of dawn working hard until nightfall, in fact, my uncle even built the farmhouse and all the buildings they lived in there.

They had 80 acres they sharecropped with a large patch of woods way out in the back. One night she said she saw some sort of saucer hovering over her trees like it was having trouble or something, then it burst into a bright orange and shot straight up into the sky and disappeared.

She was dead serious.

She's long dead now, and I generally take 2nd hand accounts with a grain of sand, and if her story came from anyone else, I might be skeptical, but not her.

 

[Woodznutz]

God of the Gaps?

Gaps. That's a ToE thing.

 

[Woodznutz]

I think we know what the "star of Bethlehem" was now.

Which is ironic as the "star" never hovered over Bethlehem.

 

[luiza]

There are hundreds of thousands of incidents across the globe in the last 100 years
We now know that the Breakaway civilisation began production here in the fifties and what we now see is a split of UAPs produced off- planet with the balance produced here .

We are close to Disclosure but until Deep State is reassured that it can maintain its wealth and power , the chances of Zero Point Energy secrets becoming fully revealed remain difficult to accurately forecast .

Dr Stephen Greer is as good a voice for reliable and up to date details .
He has presented to all main governments and has 750 first line direct witnesses and whistle blowers .