So should we be firing up Old sparky for Luigi?

[Zincwarrior]

He's toast in Florida

A lot of retirees in Florida. A lot of people who have been screwed by UHC. You only need one. Remember, there is no justice. There is Just Us.

For clarity I believe public evidence on TV reveals him to be the shooter.

 

[Lisa558]

A lot of retirees in Florida. A lot of people who have been screwed by UHC. You only need one.

Being screwed by UHC does not excuse cold-blooded, 1st degree murder.

 

[Lisa558]

A lot of retirees in Florida. A lot of people who have been screwed by UHC. You only need one. Remember, there is no justice. There is Just Us.

And millions of people have NOT been screwed by UHC. You just need 12.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Being screwed by UHC does not excuse cold-blooded, 1st degree murder.

Agreed. But they better include the lesser offense of manslaughter.

 

[Lisa558]

Agreed. But they better include the lesser offense of manslaughter.

Or murder in the 2nd. He’s obviously guilty of 1st.

 

[Zincwarrior]

And millions of people have NOT been screwed by UHC. You just need 12.

12 who haven't been screwed by the US healthcare system. I wouldn't want to be that prosecutor.

 

[Lisa558]

12 wh haven't been screwed by the US healthcare system. I wouldn't want to be that prosecutor.

You say that because you’re a liberal who hates successful people and businesses.

The only time I was ever screwed by insurance was when I had to go on an Obamacare plan.

 

[Zincwarrior]

You say that because you’re a liberal who hates successful people and businesses.

An interesting opinion, there.

The only time I was ever screwed by insurance was when I had to go on an Obamacare plan.

You are extravagantly lucky.

 

[The Irish Ram]

If I get screwed by my auto mechanic, can I shoot him in the back? What about the IRS? Thieving Nancy Pelosi?
Where do we draw the ok to murder line?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

An interesting opinion, there.

You are extravagantly lucky.

In truth..not so unusual.
Like most things in this country, how you get treated by insurance has a lot to do with how much money you have. If you have the money for a top-tier plan, you're golden, for the most part.

If you are a working mom whose insurance is through her job..and you get cancer and lose said job..and cannot pay the $1k a month premium....you're truly fucked. Your only option is Medicare...and your chance of surviving your cancer plummet.

As Lisa558 would say, "Sucks to be poor"

 

[Zincwarrior]

If I get screwed by my auto mechanic, can I shoot him in the back? What about the IRS? Thieving Nancy Pelosi?
Where do we draw the ok to murder line?

Ask the jury.

 

[Lisa558]

An interesting opinion, there.

You are extravagantly lucky.

Not luck. I bought a good plan before Obamacare.

Once we had Obamacare, the costs skyrocketed so much that all I could afford was the bronze. High deductibles, narrow networks, and a cost of $900 a month.

 

[Winco]

There is a surprisingly large percentage of people amongst our population who feel as though Luigi is actually a hero and that the CEO of United healthcare received the death sentence that he had coming and wasn't going to get any other way.

Not me. He is NO Hero.
The Dude is GUILTY, 100%.
Short trial.

IDC if he gets life or the Death Penalty.
His life is over, in terms of Freedom.

Fuck him.....you can't just randomly KILL people.

 

[Lisa558]

In truth..not so unusual.
Like most things in this country, how you get treated by insurance has a lot to do with how much money you have. If you have the money for a top-tier plan, you're golden, for the most part.

If you are a working mom whose insurance is through her job..and you get cancer and lose said job..and cannot pay the $1k a month premium....you're truly fucked. Your only option is Medicare...and your chance of surviving your cancer plummet.

As Lisa558 would say, "Sucks to be poor"

You’re clueless. Under Obamacare, the middle class paid through the nose for inferior plans. The poor got subsidized plans that covered more.

After paying $900 a month for my bronze plan, I still had to pay $135 per session for the PT I needed. I couldn’t afford the 3x week the doc order - not on top of the $900 premium - so I went to 2x a week.

The low-income paid nothing for their plans, and a low co-pay for their sessions. They got the full treatment the doc ordered.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Not luck. I bought a good plan before Obamacare.

Once we had Obamacare, the costs skyrocketed so much that all I could afford was the bronze. High deductibles, narrow networks, and a cost of $900 a month.

I dropped mine when it went from $300 to $800.

 

[BackAgain]

There is a surprisingly large percentage of people amongst our population who feel as though Luigi is actually a hero and that the CEO of United healthcare received the death sentence that he had coming and wasn't going to get any other way.

This is a tough one.

Is Luigi a justified vigilante?

Is he speaking for the hundreds of thousands of victims of health care oppression and fraud that have suffered under the hand of corporate greed and dishonesty?

Or do we do ourselves a disservice by Pat Lee and tacitly approving of this action if we do not give him the death penalty?

What say you?

Fry him.

 

[alang1216]

There is a surprisingly large percentage of people amongst our population who feel as though Luigi is actually a hero and that the CEO of United healthcare received the death sentence that he had coming and wasn't going to get any other way.

This is a tough one.

Is Luigi a justified vigilante?

Is he speaking for the hundreds of thousands of victims of health care oppression and fraud that have suffered under the hand of corporate greed and dishonesty?

Or do we do ourselves a disservice by Pat Lee and tacitly approving of this action if we do not give him the death penalty?

What say you?

"Justified vigilante" is an oxymoron. Americans allow our terrible healthcare system to exist but to blame the people that work in that system is not justifiable. Fry him.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Objectively there is video evidence of the actual shooting. There is evidence tying him to be that shooter. There is evidence that he was upset about the fate of his family members-hence mens rea. I believe they have the homemade firearm as well. Assuming that's legally admissible, depending on the charge thats hard to overcome.

 

[Rawley]

There is a surprisingly large percentage of people amongst our population who feel as though Luigi is actually a hero and that the CEO of United healthcare received the death sentence that he had coming and wasn't going to get any other way.

This is a tough one.

Is Luigi a justified vigilante?

Is he speaking for the hundreds of thousands of victims of health care oppression and fraud that have suffered under the hand of corporate greed and dishonesty?

Or do we do ourselves a disservice by Pat Lee and tacitly approving of this action if we do not give him the death penalty?

What say you?

I'm normally not a death penalty supporter, but his tries my principles.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

NY doesn’t have the death penalty.

Life in prison. First chance at parole in 40 years.

He's being charged federally. Death sentence is possible.