So i been wondering

[Deplorable Yankee]

So i wuz thinking ...which can be dangerous according to the left
How long will it take the rocket scientist on EBT cards to figure out and that you can still go into that baking aisle and buy everything you need to make cakes pies probably candy too what about the baker's chocolate is that banned

I like lime soda I've been drinking seltzer water and flavoring it for years and adding a little sugar it's a little healthier than Coke
I do love me some Fresca ..they make a less sweet version ...or they used to

It's grapefruit I make my own the way I like it less sweet
I like less sweet
I'm in the South there's nothing I can do... they love them some sugar. if I want a less sweet cheesecake I have to make it myself

They don't have jobs you can find a minute to bake something ...
Bake a f****** apple pie

 

[toobfreak]

So i wuz thinking ...which can be dangerous according to the left
How long will it take the rocket scientist on EBT cards to figure out and that you can still go into that baking aisle and buy everything you need to make cakes pies probably candy too what about the baker's chocolate is that banned

I hate to say this because I know the intentions are good, but there is a bigger issue at stake here.

Central to the conservative mindset is small and limited government. The last thing anyone needs is another government intrusion into their lives, yet unfortunately, this is exactly the thing the Right has been buffaloed into supporting.

Yeah, I know, it sounds like a good idea, but the government has no right telling people what they can eat. I know some people eat too much junk shit, then, the government should just take junk food off the shelves for everyone.

Are you ready to give up cola, sweetened drinks, cake, ice cream, all deserts, and candy? You have to know that once started, more and more will only be added to the list.

This is an insidious form of discrimination. The truth is, there are many sick and disabled people who can barely get around, cannot cook, and depend on packaged and processed food to get by on.

Encourage people to eat better, help or offer people to get on nutrition programs, but please keep the government out of my kitchen. You see, by doing this, you have only moved government one step closer to telling YOU what you can buy and eat.

But, Toob--- these people can still buy this junk with their own money! Not everyone on food stamps is on welfare, and if these people had money, they would not need food stamps or welfare.

The real goal here is really just to cut down on benefits because what will really happen in that a lot of people will just end up buying less food and the state will pocket the savings.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

I hate to say this because I know the intentions are good, but there is a bigger issue at stake here.

Central to the conservative mindset is small and limited government. The last thing anyone needs is another government intrusion into their lives, yet unfortunately, this is exactly the thing the Right has been buffaloed into supporting.

Yeah, I know, it sounds like a good idea, but the government has no right telling people what they can eat. I know some people eat too much junk shit, then, the government should just take junk food off the shelves for everyone.

Are you ready to give up cola, sweetened drinks, cake, ice cream, all deserts, and candy? You have to know that once started, more and more will only be added to the list.

This is an insidious form of discrimination. The truth is, there are many sick and disabled people who can barely get around, cannot cook, and depend on packaged and processed food to get by on.

Encourage people to eat better, help or offer people to get on nutrition programs, but please keep the government out of my kitchen. You see, by doing this, you have only moved government one step closer to telling YOU what you can buy and eat.

But, Toob--- these people can still buy this junk with their own money! Not everyone on food stamps is on welfare, and if these people had money, they would not need food stamps or welfare.

The real goal here is really just to cut down on benefits because what will really happen in that a lot of people will just end up buying less food and the state will pocket the savings.

Like Kennedy said you could still buy whatever you want .no ones really taking it away from anyone but when I'm paying your tab no I'm not buying you Little Debbie's fudge rounds..... especially if you weigh 400 f****** lbs

But you can still buy the ingredients to make one yourself...

They can buy filet mignon and lobster tails but you can't buy a Pepsi to f****** bad

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Like Kennedy said you could still buy whatever you want .no ones really taking it away from anyone but when I'm paying your tab no I'm not buying you Little Debbie's fudge rounds..... especially if you weigh 400 f****** lbs

But you can still buy the ingredients to make one yourself...

They can buy filet mignon and lobster tails but you can't buy a Pepsi to f****** bad

A famous quote comes to mind...........'my body, my choice'

That has been used in reference to abortion, getting vaxxed, and now food choices.

Anytime government is involved with 'choices', it's really not a 'free' country

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

A famous quote comes to mind...........'my body, my choice'

That has been used in reference to abortion, getting vaxxed, and now food choices.

Anytime government is involved with 'choices', it's really not a 'free' country

Well when you live on nanny states tit bureaucracies they have rules and regulations...like rules for slaves or children .....you don't have to collect food stamps from the government those of us who don't are free to buy whatever we want
bake something



my favorite gay guy on the internet

 

[toobfreak]

Like Kennedy said you could still buy whatever you want .no ones really taking it away from anyone

But they are. Many people will not have the money laying around to replace all this stuff out of their own pocket.

but when I'm paying your tab

Nothing is coming out of your pocket. Do you think the government will give you a tax break? You pay taxes. The government decides what they allocate that money for, not you. Either way, you won't save a dime. And either way, it stops becoming charity when that help comes with arbitrary conditions. Just remember that when Uncle Sam starts telling you how to live, what you can eat or not eat, etc.

no I'm not buying you Little Debbie's fudge rounds.....

So basically, people with no quality of life because of illness or disability whom the only pleasure they have to look forward to is a little, tasty cake for dinner won't even have that now. Nothing but cabbage, rice and potatoes.

especially if you weigh 400 f****** lbs

Many fat people are fat because of hormonal or medical conditions which has nothing to do with their diet.

But you can still buy the ingredients to make one yourself...

Right. A person who cannot stand, walk or cook is now going to make and bake their own Little Debbies just so you think you're saving a $1.50.

They can buy filet mignon and lobster tails but you can't buy a Pepsi to f****** bad

Not your decision to make, nor is it any of the government's business.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Well when you live on nanny states tit bureaucracies they have rules and regulations...like rules for slaves or children .....you don't have to collect food stamps from the government those of us who don't are free to buy whatever we want
bake something



my favorite gay guy on the internet

Doesn't mean I agree with what I had said. It's just an argument that would be used against any rules and regulations as to what can or can not be purchased with SNAP. But it doesn't bother me to see someone buying them either, since it's not usually something people eat to live on, but for what they are as snacks. Anyone I've seen using SNAP, usually have a cart full of other foods as well including meats, fruits & vegs, etc. IF they only had a cart full of junk and soda, then I'd be more concerned.

If it were up to me there would be no sodas, snack cakes, prepackaged foods with lists of ingredients that nobody can pronounce, etc. and only whole food ingredients to make your own, or any convenience prepackaged foods having the same with real food ingredients, with none of the preservatives, additives, and who knows what else.

It's also very unfortunate that most of the younger generations were never taught alot of things that most of us boomers and some Gen X take for granted.......like how to cook, respect for others, how to carry on a conversation without dropping F bombs every other word, manners, etc.

It's kinda like growing a garden and canning or otherwise preserving the harvest........fewer and fewer people know how, though I will say more are into gardening, but not so much the preserving of it


Sorry, kinda got off track a bit, but I think you can still see the point. Not everyone knows any different than how they were raised to be able to 'make their own'

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Where did tax break for me come into play?

Why aren't they eating filet mignon and lobster tail why they boiling cabbage and potatoes all of a sudden they're not all disabled and elderly the majority are not

The baking aisle is available
If you boiling potatoes and cabbage you can bake a tasty pie
Without most of the processed s*** poison that makes millions of Americans obese and sick

If you're going to take money from the government for food they can encourage healthier standards Lord knows it's a nice change of pace

 

[Maxdeath]

But they are. Many people will not have the money laying around to replace all this stuff out of their own pocket.


Nothing is coming out of your pocket. Do you think the government will give you a tax break? You pay taxes. The government decides what they allocate that money for, not you. Either way, you won't save a dime. And either way, it stops becoming charity when that help comes with arbitrary conditions. Just remember that when Uncle Sam starts telling you how to live, what you can eat or not eat, etc.


So basically, people with no quality of life because of illness or disability whom the only pleasure they have to look forward to is a little, tasty cake for dinner won't even have that now. Nothing but cabbage, rice and potatoes.


Many fat people are fat because of hormonal or medical conditions which has nothing to do with their diet.


Right. A person who cannot stand, walk or cook is now going to make and bake their own Little Debbies just so you think you're saving a $1.50.


Not your decision to make, nor is it any of the government's business.

Let me see if I have this right. The argument is the government should not be deciding what you are allowed to eat because it is money that they are giving to you. Are you willing to claim that they should not be allowed to stop you buying heroin, LSD, and other drugs with your own money?
Do not know about you but I have never had anyone buy my food since I started working. I was not able to afford junk food, I needed real food and was often struggling to afford that when I was younger. I pay for their food through my taxes as everyone does. So if having no junk food is a real struggle for them do not think I feel extremely sorry. Especially when I think back to when I struggled to put meat and potatoes on my table while working for it and not getting a free ride.
In a way since it is a hand out it is my and others and the government’s decision. We do not allow cars, trips to Hawaii, or street drugs to be purchased with snap benefits and it should stay that way.

 

[gtopa1]

Where did tax break for me come into play?

Why aren't they eating filet mignon and lobster tail why they boiling cabbage and potatoes all of a sudden they're not all disabled and elderly the majority are not

The baking aisle is available
If you boiling potatoes and cabbage you can bake a tasty pie
Without most of the processed s*** poison that makes millions of Americans obese and sick

If you're going to take money from the government for food they can encourage healthier standards Lord knows it's a nice change of pace

Add some tomatoes, eggplant and zucchini (Aussie terms) and you have a very healthy feed indeed; even just add some meaty bones.....yum yum.

I make it often; Dad was East European.

Greg

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Who ever is paying for it - deserves the right to control what it is used for.

PERIOD.

 

[Winston]

Let me see if I have this right. The argument is the government should not be deciding what you are allowed to eat because it is money that they are giving to you. Are you willing to claim that they should not be allowed to stop you buying heroin, LSD, and other drugs with your own money?
Do not know about you but I have never had anyone buy my food since I started working. I was not able to afford junk food, I needed real food and was often struggling to afford that when I was younger. I pay for their food through my taxes as everyone does. So if having no junk food is a real struggle for them do not think I feel extremely sorry. Especially when I think back to when I struggled to put meat and potatoes on my table while working for it and not getting a free ride.
In a way since it is a hand out it is my and others and the government’s decision. We do not allow cars, trips to Hawaii, or street drugs to be purchased with snap benefits and it should stay that way.

Let me throw my two cents in. Oh wait, all you nut heads already have. Of the dollar you send to the government, not even TWO ******* CENTS goes to pay for SNAP benefits. I mean you do the math One hundred point three billion divided by 6.75 trillion.

 

[TNHarley]

Yeah, I know, it sounds like a good idea, but the government has no right telling people what they can eat.

The govt also has no right to take the fruits of my labor and redistribute it to other people.
The govt isnt telling people what they can eat. They are limiting what EBT can buy.

 

[Winston]

It's also very unfortunate that most of the younger generations were never taught alot of things that most of us boomers and some Gen X take for granted.......like how to cook, respect for others, how to carry on a conversation without dropping F bombs every other word, manners, etc.

It's kinda like growing a garden and canning or otherwise preserving the harvest........fewer and fewer people know how, though I will say more are into gardening, but not so much the preserving of it

I don't think it is a generational thing at all. There are plenty of Boomers that can't cook for shit. Years ago I worked with a black girl, raised by her single Mom, in the housing projects of Chicago. Later, she became my hairdresser. Went to college on a softball scholarship. She married a good old redneck out of the hills of West Virginia. While cutting my hair she started talking about the first Thanksgiving at her in-laws. It was probably the hardest I ever laughed. The turkey, well it was there. But the Mac and Cheese, they pulled a box out of the cabinet. The mashed potatoes, that dehydrated stuff. Green Beans, out of a can. But the straw that broke the camel's back, the ham, a canned ham. She couldn't take it anymore. She told them to stop everything and wait till she got back. She went to the grocery store, a pretty good drive, came back loaded up with real food, and cooked them a Thanksgiving dinner like they never had before.

My daughter, a Millennial, you do not want to turn down a dinner invite from her. She has a huge garden, raises her own chickens for eggs, and cooks everything from scratch. All three sons, Gen-Z, well they can cook. The younger two live in an apartment. The oldest, married homeowner with, of course, a garden. And who cooks Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner for his wife's family? He does.

And yes, I got Grandmother's pressure cooker for canning. Huge thing. It gets passed around to all the kids pretty much year round. Rather it is homemade beef and chicken stock, or jams and jellies.

 

[toobfreak]

Let me see if I have this right. The argument is the government should not be deciding what you are allowed to eat because it is money that they are giving to you. Are you willing to claim that they should not be allowed to stop you buying heroin, LSD, and other drugs with your own money?

Did you even bother reading what I said at all, or is it just a comprehension problem? Try going back and rereading what I wrote, carefully this time. Conservatism is BASED on small, limited government and self-actualization, not ADDING to it, especially if it will only open the door for them to do more and more to yet more people, eventually to you and I.

Let that soak in.

If someone wants to eat 47 Twinkies a day and wash it down with cola, that is their choice, really none of my business or yours. If you actually think restricting what people can buy will save you or this country one dime, you are a fool.

 

[Maxdeath]

Let me throw my two cents in. Oh wait, all you nut heads already have. Of the dollar you send to the government, not even TWO ******* CENTS goes to pay for SNAP benefits. I mean you do the math One hundred point three billion divided by 6.75 trillion.

Aww are your feelings hurt?

 

[Maxdeath]

Did you even bother reading what I said at all, or is it just a comprehension problem? Try going back and rereading what I wrote, carefully this time. Conservatism is BASED on small, limited government and self-actualization, not ADDING to it, especially if it will only open the door for them to do more and more to yet more people, eventually to you and I.

Let that soak in.

If someone wants to eat 47 Twinkies a day and wash it down with cola, that is their choice, really none of my business or yours. If you actually think restricting what people can buy will save you or this country one dime, you are a fool.

I read it. I understood that you actually think that restricting snap and ebt is going to increase the size of government is to say the least crazy. To think that not allowing them to buy hohos or some other treat would save even one cent is crazy.
To expect someone to actually eat something that will possibly keep them healthy enough that they are not constantly on public assistance or having to deal with diabetes i see no problem with. The fact you think that the government should allow you to do whatever you want shows you do not understand society

 

[Winston]

Aww are your feelings hurt?

Not at all. I pity you guys. I mean how sad is your life if you have to worry about what someone else buys at the grocery store? And my numbers are spot on, two percent, TWO ******* PERCENT, don't kid yourself about the savings. It is about control, punishment if you will. Oh, you deserve soda and Little Debbie cakes, the poor don't. Those people need to work. They do, you dumbass. Most of them. Pretty much all of them that are capable. 86% of non-disabled households collecting EBT have at least one person working, sometimes two.

 

[toobfreak]

The govt also has no right to take the fruits of my labor and redistribute it to other people.

Tell that to FDR. I bet you would feel differently if you ever have misfortune in your life, hit by a car or something, are crippled, and forced onto SNAP to stay alive.

The govt isnt telling people what they can eat. They are limiting what EBT can buy.

Of course they are, don't be an idiot. EBT is to buy food. EBT gives a dollar amount benefit, and people see fit to spend the money on what they want and need to eat. That money will still be spent either way. What I eat is none of your business, but thanks for voting for fascism, which is what this really is, and over time, it will only spread out to include more and more things and apply to more and more people. Jesus! How can people not see that when it happens with everything the government gets involved in?

Let's cut to the chase and be honest here. This is really about resentment over charity at all. But you would change your tune if someday, you needed it for yourself. We have all seen the fat cows at Walmart, usually black women, loading up on groceries, we all know there are abusers and people born into Welfare. But that is a SOCIAL problem. In your zeal to "get even" with the freeloaders because you are angry you are not getting anything for free, you are willing to walk right over millions of people to get there because (for now), it does not include you.

But it COULD someday. Most people do not plan or expect to need SNAP, but shit happens. Life is a fickle *****. And there are millions of people on SNAP and welfare who are good, honest, hard-working people who paid into this stuff all their lives now needing it who made bigger contributions to society than you ever will.

The problem with this decision is that as usual, it is a one-size-fits-all solution, designed to fit the worst offenders while rolling over the rest. But I might consider an alternative: LIMITING a person to how much pop or candy or snack cakes and deserts they can buy each month.

That would be a far more equitable and intelligent solution, a far more American one, which is obviously why it escapes you.

Government is already too big and powerful, I have no desire to see it get even bigger and more powerful.

 

[TNHarley]

Tell that to FDR. I bet you would feel differently if you ever have misfortune in your life, hit by a car or something, are crippled, and forced onto SNAP to stay alive.

**** FDR. I dont ask tyrants anything.
The facts would still be the same. The govt has no authority to redistribute my funds to individuals.

Of course they are

Nope. Those people can drink their mtn dew if they want. Their EBT has just been restricted.

And really, your argument is a bit bias. Do you have that opinion on everything? Anything anyone gets from the govt shouldnt be regulated by the govt? What about medicaid? Vet care? I mean, the govt has no right to regulate someones healthcare even though someone gets it from them, right?
Hell, why does the govt regulate anything?
What right do they have to not let me drive 50 in town?
What about section 8? What right do they have to kick me out of a govt subsidized apartment if i commit a certain crime?