Smoking rate for U.S. adults drops to record low...

[SwimExpert]

$1.00 in 1975 had the same buying power as $4.49 in 2014.
Annual inflation over this period was 3.93%.
http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm

You really want to argue that that justifies comparing 1975 quarters to 2014 quarters?

 

[Desperado]

Over priced goods reduce consumption

Bam! Right over your head.....keep beating that dead horse boy!

And who says anything is over priced? See, that's your problem. You are assuming that taxation has led to over priced cigarettes. I've already explained to you that that's not true.

Actually, you failed miserably

Cigarettes over $7.50 a pack have impacted smoking, just ask any smoker. Cigarettes used to be given away........keep the pack

A three pack a day smoker used to spend a buck, now it costs $25

*facepalm*

Listen closely - Just. Because. Something. Is. More. Expensive. Does. Not. Mean. It. Is. Over-priced.

Also - Stop. Comparing. 1975. Prices. To. 2014. Prices.

Price Comparisons are very fair - Same brand Cigarette, same quantity, same packaging - Perfect for comparing the price.
1974 Fort Hood PX - Carton of Marlboro s - $2.00 Today approximately $58.00! What has changed? Not the Cigarette, only government regulations and court settlements.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

$1.00 in 1975 had the same buying power as $4.49 in 2014.
Annual inflation over this period was 3.93%.
http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm

You really want to argue that that justifies comparing 1975 quarters to 2014 quarters?

That how it works little man, when you adjust for inflation.

 

[SwimExpert]

Price Comparisons are very fair - Same brand Cigarette, same quantity, same packaging - Perfect for comparing the price.
1974 Fort Hood PX - Carton of Marlboro s - $2.00 Today approximately $58.00! What has changed? Not the Cigarette, only government regulations and court settlements.

You cannot validly compare the $2 of 1974 to the $58 of today.

 

[SwimExpert]

$1.00 in 1975 had the same buying power as $4.49 in 2014.
Annual inflation over this period was 3.93%.
http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm

You really want to argue that that justifies comparing 1975 quarters to 2014 quarters?

That how it works little man, when you adjust for inflation.

Comparing .$25 1975 USD to $.25 2014 USD is not adjusting for inflation.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Price Comparisons are very fair - Same brand Cigarette, same quantity, same packaging - Perfect for comparing the price.
1974 Fort Hood PX - Carton of Marlboro s - $2.00 Today approximately $58.00! What has changed? Not the Cigarette, only government regulations and court settlements.

You cannot validly compare the $2 of 1974 to the $58 of today.

Actually it's easy.

$58.00 in 2014 had the same buying power as $12.92 in 1975.
Annual inflation over this period was 3.93%.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

$1.00 in 1975 had the same buying power as $4.49 in 2014.
Annual inflation over this period was 3.93%.
http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm

You really want to argue that that justifies comparing 1975 quarters to 2014 quarters?

That how it works little man, when you adjust for inflation.

Comparing .$25 1975 USD to $.25 2014 USD is not adjusting for inflation.

Which is why I didn't do that. Where are you getting your numbers from?

And, just for you:

$0.25 in 1975 had the same buying power as $1.12 in 2014.
Annual inflation over this period was 3.93%.

 

[rightwinger]

Over priced goods reduce consumption

Bam! Right over your head.....keep beating that dead horse boy!

And who says anything is over priced? See, that's your problem. You are assuming that taxation has led to over priced cigarettes. I've already explained to you that that's not true.

Actually, you failed miserably

Cigarettes over $7.50 a pack have impacted smoking, just ask any smoker. Cigarettes used to be given away........keep the pack

A three pack a day smoker used to spend a buck, now it costs $25

*facepalm*

Listen closely - Just. Because. Something. Is. More. Expensive. Does. Not. Mean. It. Is. Over-priced.

Also - Stop. Comparing. 1975. Prices. To. 2014. Prices.

I will excuse you for your youth. You missed out on the glory days of smoking when cigs were cheap and you could smoke anytime anyplace you wanted. It was a different world where the smoker was king
Your limited knowledge based on you and your bar buddies is understandable

So to recap, you've got nothing. All you can do is hurl ad hominems because you lack the ability to support your position logically. Whereas I won't simply take your word that your position is correct or that your long list of assumptions hold any validity, nor am I willing to dive into the pool of your circular logic, you resort to another form or "take my word for it reasoning" based on yet another assumption based on age and anecdote.

Your failure is noted.

I appreciate that you do not understand a world you never experienced. How many of your friends who smoke, smoke two or three packs a day?
Ask them why
When I was in my twenties, I didn't know any smokers who smoked less than two packs a day. There was no reason not to.
Smokes were cheap, you could light up every time someone else did. And smoking was soooooooo cool

 

[PaintMyHouse]

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And who says anything is over priced? See, that's your problem. You are assuming that taxation has led to over priced cigarettes. I've already explained to you that that's not true.

Actually, you failed miserably

Cigarettes over $7.50 a pack have impacted smoking, just ask any smoker. Cigarettes used to be given away........keep the pack

A three pack a day smoker used to spend a buck, now it costs $25

*facepalm*

Listen closely - Just. Because. Something. Is. More. Expensive. Does. Not. Mean. It. Is. Over-priced.

Also - Stop. Comparing. 1975. Prices. To. 2014. Prices.

I will excuse you for your youth. You missed out on the glory days of smoking when cigs were cheap and you could smoke anytime anyplace you wanted. It was a different world where the smoker was king
Your limited knowledge based on you and your bar buddies is understandable

So to recap, you've got nothing. All you can do is hurl ad hominems because you lack the ability to support your position logically. Whereas I won't simply take your word that your position is correct or that your long list of assumptions hold any validity, nor am I willing to dive into the pool of your circular logic, you resort to another form or "take my word for it reasoning" based on yet another assumption based on age and anecdote.

Your failure is noted.

I appreciate that you do not understand a world you never experienced. How many of your friends who smoke, smoke two or three packs a day?
Ask them why
When I was in my twenties, I didn't know any smokers who smoked less than two packs a day. There was no reason not to.
Smokes were cheap, you could light up every time someone else did. And smoking was soooooooo cool

He probably doesn't know that we used to smoke at high school, with the school's permission.

 

[SwimExpert]

And who says anything is over priced? See, that's your problem. You are assuming that taxation has led to over priced cigarettes. I've already explained to you that that's not true.

Actually, you failed miserably

Cigarettes over $7.50 a pack have impacted smoking, just ask any smoker. Cigarettes used to be given away........keep the pack

A three pack a day smoker used to spend a buck, now it costs $25

*facepalm*

Listen closely - Just. Because. Something. Is. More. Expensive. Does. Not. Mean. It. Is. Over-priced.

Also - Stop. Comparing. 1975. Prices. To. 2014. Prices.

I will excuse you for your youth. You missed out on the glory days of smoking when cigs were cheap and you could smoke anytime anyplace you wanted. It was a different world where the smoker was king
Your limited knowledge based on you and your bar buddies is understandable

So to recap, you've got nothing. All you can do is hurl ad hominems because you lack the ability to support your position logically. Whereas I won't simply take your word that your position is correct or that your long list of assumptions hold any validity, nor am I willing to dive into the pool of your circular logic, you resort to another form or "take my word for it reasoning" based on yet another assumption based on age and anecdote.

Your failure is noted.

I appreciate that you do not understand a world you never experienced. How many of your friends who smoke, smoke two or three packs a day?
Ask them why
When I was in my twenties, I didn't know any smokers who smoked less than two packs a day. There was no reason not to.
Smokes were cheap, you could light up every time someone else did. And smoking was soooooooo cool

Doubling down on your fail, I see.

 

[SwimExpert]

Which is why I didn't do that. Where are you getting your numbers from?

Correct, you did not. But Rightwinger did, and I was arguing against him doing so. You've now jumped in trying to rebut my position. Now that you're caught up, perhaps you'll manage to avoid making yourself out to be even more of a fool.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Which is why I didn't do that. Where are you getting your numbers from?

Correct, you did not. But Rightwinger did, and I was arguing against him doing so. You've now jumped in trying to rebut my position. Now that you're caught up, perhaps you'll manage to avoid making yourself out to be even more of a fool.

He's already kicked your ass, and I gave him the numbers to do so.

 

[Desperado]

Price Comparisons are very fair - Same brand Cigarette, same quantity, same packaging - Perfect for comparing the price.
1974 Fort Hood PX - Carton of Marlboro s - $2.00 Today approximately $58.00! What has changed? Not the Cigarette, only government regulations and court settlements.

You cannot validly compare the $2 of 1974 to the $58 of today.

Explain the reason for the largePercentage of Change

Gallon of Milk in 1974 $1.62 Today average $3.67
Carton of Marlboros Army PX in 1974 $2.00 Today approximately $58.00

 

[rightwinger]

Price Comparisons are very fair - Same brand Cigarette, same quantity, same packaging - Perfect for comparing the price.
1974 Fort Hood PX - Carton of Marlboro s - $2.00 Today approximately $58.00! What has changed? Not the Cigarette, only government regulations and court settlements.

You cannot validly compare the $2 of 1974 to the $58 of today.

Let's compare this way. In 1974 I worked for minimum wage at $2.10 an hour.......I could by a CARTON working one hour
Today, you would have to work eight hours to earn that carton

You don't think that impacted the amount of smoking?

 

[rightwinger]

Actually, you failed miserably

Cigarettes over $7.50 a pack have impacted smoking, just ask any smoker. Cigarettes used to be given away........keep the pack

A three pack a day smoker used to spend a buck, now it costs $25

*facepalm*

Listen closely - Just. Because. Something. Is. More. Expensive. Does. Not. Mean. It. Is. Over-priced.

Also - Stop. Comparing. 1975. Prices. To. 2014. Prices.

I will excuse you for your youth. You missed out on the glory days of smoking when cigs were cheap and you could smoke anytime anyplace you wanted. It was a different world where the smoker was king
Your limited knowledge based on you and your bar buddies is understandable

So to recap, you've got nothing. All you can do is hurl ad hominems because you lack the ability to support your position logically. Whereas I won't simply take your word that your position is correct or that your long list of assumptions hold any validity, nor am I willing to dive into the pool of your circular logic, you resort to another form or "take my word for it reasoning" based on yet another assumption based on age and anecdote.

Your failure is noted.

I appreciate that you do not understand a world you never experienced. How many of your friends who smoke, smoke two or three packs a day?
Ask them why
When I was in my twenties, I didn't know any smokers who smoked less than two packs a day. There was no reason not to.
Smokes were cheap, you could light up every time someone else did. And smoking was soooooooo cool

Doubling down on your fail, I see.

I see you dodged the question. Sure sign you have nothing to add

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Price Comparisons are very fair - Same brand Cigarette, same quantity, same packaging - Perfect for comparing the price.
1974 Fort Hood PX - Carton of Marlboro s - $2.00 Today approximately $58.00! What has changed? Not the Cigarette, only government regulations and court settlements.

You cannot validly compare the $2 of 1974 to the $58 of today.

Let's compare this way. In 1974 I worked for minimum wage at $2.10 an hour.......I could by a CARTON working one hour
Today, you would have to work eight hours to earn that carton

You don't think that impacted the amount of smoking?

The good old days, when smoking was cheap, sex was safe, and blow you could get from good friends. Damn, we need those days back for a week each year.

 

[rightwinger]

Price Comparisons are very fair - Same brand Cigarette, same quantity, same packaging - Perfect for comparing the price.
1974 Fort Hood PX - Carton of Marlboro s - $2.00 Today approximately $58.00! What has changed? Not the Cigarette, only government regulations and court settlements.

You cannot validly compare the $2 of 1974 to the $58 of today.

Let's compare this way. In 1974 I worked for minimum wage at $2.10 an hour.......I could by a CARTON working one hour
Today, you would have to work eight hours to earn that carton

You don't think that impacted the amount of smoking?

The good old days, when smoking was cheap, sex was safe, and blow you could get from good friends. Damn, we need those days back for a week each year.

You could drink at 18 also

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Price Comparisons are very fair - Same brand Cigarette, same quantity, same packaging - Perfect for comparing the price.
1974 Fort Hood PX - Carton of Marlboro s - $2.00 Today approximately $58.00! What has changed? Not the Cigarette, only government regulations and court settlements.

You cannot validly compare the $2 of 1974 to the $58 of today.

Let's compare this way. In 1974 I worked for minimum wage at $2.10 an hour.......I could by a CARTON working one hour
Today, you would have to work eight hours to earn that carton

You don't think that impacted the amount of smoking?

The good old days, when smoking was cheap, sex was safe, and blow you could get from good friends. Damn, we need those days back for a week each year.

You could drink at 18 also

Oh yeah. Of course there was that little draft problem we'd just resolved.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Price Comparisons are very fair - Same brand Cigarette, same quantity, same packaging - Perfect for comparing the price.
1974 Fort Hood PX - Carton of Marlboro s - $2.00 Today approximately $58.00! What has changed? Not the Cigarette, only government regulations and court settlements.

You cannot validly compare the $2 of 1974 to the $58 of today.

Let's compare this way. In 1974 I worked for minimum wage at $2.10 an hour.......I could by a CARTON working one hour
Today, you would have to work eight hours to earn that carton

You don't think that impacted the amount of smoking?

Yes, the cost of Cigarettes is 95% the result of taxes... when the Federal government added a dollar a pack to cigarettes, I quit. As that was a tax I did not have to pay and didn't. Stripping from my liability, the cost of supporting Socialism.

I took the extra cash and poured into my car... she's down to about 6 miles per gallon, a carbon belching powerhouse of global destruction.

So the Left in taxing cigarettes, has literally produced significant increases in destructive carbon gasses, which as every scientist ever 'believes' are killing Mother Earth.

 

[rightwinger]

Price Comparisons are very fair - Same brand Cigarette, same quantity, same packaging - Perfect for comparing the price.
1974 Fort Hood PX - Carton of Marlboro s - $2.00 Today approximately $58.00! What has changed? Not the Cigarette, only government regulations and court settlements.

You cannot validly compare the $2 of 1974 to the $58 of today.

Let's compare this way. In 1974 I worked for minimum wage at $2.10 an hour.......I could by a CARTON working one hour
Today, you would have to work eight hours to earn that carton

You don't think that impacted the amount of smoking?

Yes, the cost of Cigarettes is 95% the result of taxes... when the Federal government added a dollar a pack to cigarettes, I quit. As that was a tax I did not have to pay and didn't. Stripping from my liability, the cost of supporting Socialism.

I took the extra cash and poured into my car... she's down to about 6 miles per gallon, a carbon belching powerhouse of global destruction.

So the Left in taxing cigarettes, has literally produced significant increases in destructive carbon gasses, which as every scientist ever 'believes' are killing Mother Earth.

Bet you feel better after you quit smoking.......smell better too