Simple solutions to gun violence.

[Damaged Eagle]

Let us know how that works out for ya.

Get your hands off of my rights and get back in the closet where you belong.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Polishprince]

If they have to do that, the number of mass shootings will drop, or be far less deadly.

You got that exactly wrong.

Why would you think that independent gun dealers are more restrictive about selling firearms to lunatics?

 

[odanny]

Get your hands off of my rights and get back in the closet where you belong.

No one is taking your guns away from you.

 

[Flash]

Let's just start with AR-15's.

First off, all AR-15 and other assault style rifles that are semi automatic and fire a specified (to be determined) type of ammunition must be registered in a federal data base. Those who own them now must register their weapons in 30 days or be in violation of the law, which could lead to the confiscation of all your firearms.

Secondly, a mandatory one week waiting period and background check on all of these types of gun purchases.

Third, special permission must be granted for this sale, which is dependent on the background of the purchaser. If they do not meet minimum requirements, they have the option of a gun safety course.

Fourth, all of these rifles can only be sold by someone with an FFL, you cannot purchase these from gun shows or private party sales.

These are just some simple steps that can be taken to prevent these mass slaughters. Look at recent shootings and the guns were purchased legally,, and used within days of purchase. A shooter can still use a pistol or rifle in a mass shooting, but we are trying the limit the damage when this happens.

 

[odanny]

You got that exactly wrong.

Why would you think that independent gun dealers are more restrictive about selling firearms to lunatics?

For one thing, you now need an FFL to sell these rifles that fall under these new restrictions. There are still plenty of rifles and other firearms you can commit mass shootings with, but you'll see mass casualty events will be less deadly.

 

[The Duke]

For one thing, you now need an FFL to sell these rifles that fall under these new restrictions. There are still plenty of rifles and other firearms you can commit mass shootings with, but you'll see mass casualty events will be less deadly.

Shit people will always find ways to do bad things no matter what. Taking away (or restricting) normal peoples' right to defend themselves

against shit people is not progress.

 

[Polishprince]

For one thing, you now need an FFL to sell these rifles that fall under these new restrictions. There are still plenty of rifles and other firearms you can commit mass shootings with, but you'll see mass casualty events will be less deadly.

You don't get it. If you are selling your wares that fell off a truck, in the backroom of a cocktail lounge, you don't have an FFL.

And you don't do background checks to make sure your customers isn't a psycho either.

 

[2aguy]

Shit people will always find ways to do bad things no matter what. Taking away (or restricting) normal peoples' right to defend themselves

against shit people is not progress.

It is for the maoist democrats.....if you take guns away from normal people, then the democrats will be able to send in their brown shirts, blm/antifa, to the suburbs to burn, loot and murder.......

They will no longer have to just burn black neighborhoods in democrat party controlled cities, since that is where they have the strictest gun control......and will be able to intimidate suburbanites into submitting to the democrats...

 

[2aguy]

For one thing, you now need an FFL to sell these rifles that fall under these new restrictions. There are still plenty of rifles and other firearms you can commit mass shootings with, but you'll see mass casualty events will be less deadly.

Moron.....

Nashville shooting...

2 rifles

6 killed

========
Kerch, Russia shooting....

1 pump action shotgun, 5 slug capacity, no magazine

20 murdered


70 injured


Do you see why you don't understand what you are talking about?

 

[Damaged Eagle]

No one is taking your guns away from you.

Then I should be able to go to the gun shop and purchase a fully automatic just like the SWAT teams and the gang bangers have and not have to pay for licensing, training, or any other BS required by the local, state, or federal government since any of that would be an infringement on my right. If the government wants all that extra BS then the government picks up the tab themselves and they pay me for my time having to jump through their hoops.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Polishprince]

Some of the most violent areas of the world have the most restrictive gun control.

Chicago, El Salvador, East St. Louis, Congo, Mexico.

Pretending that gun control reduces violence is fun I'm sure.

But its a delusion, McRib.

 

[Flash]

Let's just start with AR-15's.

First off, all AR-15 and other assault style rifles that are semi automatic and fire a specified (to be determined) type of ammunition must be registered in a federal data base. Those who own them now must register their weapons in 30 days or be in violation of the law, which could lead to the confiscation of all your firearms.

Secondly, a mandatory one week waiting period and background check on all of these types of gun purchases.

Third, special permission must be granted for this sale, which is dependent on the background of the purchaser. If they do not meet minimum requirements, they have the option of a gun safety course.

Fourth, all of these rifles can only be sold by someone with an FFL, you cannot purchase these from gun shows or private party sales.

These are just some simple steps that can be taken to prevent these mass slaughters. Look at recent shootings and the guns were purchased legally,, and used within days of purchase. A shooter can still use a pistol or rifle in a mass shooting, but we are trying the limit the damage when this happens.

Two things wrong.

1. None of those things will do anything to stop gun crime. Most of the gun crime in this country is in the ghetto areas of the big cities among demographics that could care less about any gun law.

2. The Liberals will not be satisfied with those restrictions. As we have seen in countries like the UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand Liberals will always want to go the next step to total confiscation and outright banning.

 

[Blues Man]

These are all options that allow you to keep, or purchase in the future, these rifles.

What if I don't own an an AR 15 but own a different rifle that fires the same ammo?

 

[Flash]

No one is taking your guns away from you.

Bullshit.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

You need your governments permission to drive a car.

Driving a car is not a right; it is a privilege.

The Second Amendment says nothing about any “privilege” to keep and bear arms. It explicitly affirms this as a right, belonging to the people, and forbids government from infringing it.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Fair enough. But it is not 1776 any more, and you no longer need to pour black powder down your rifle barrel. Times change, and these changes we see in America from gun violence need revision. We need to think about how we can be smarter, and it's really not that difficult.

You also do not need to stand on a soap box in the public square, or publish a handbill with a hand-cranked press and hand set type, to get your message out to others.

The Second Amendment as much protects your right to keep and bear modern arms, as the First Amendment protects your right to express opinions on a modern Internet forum such as this one.

 

[Resnic]

Let's just start with AR-15's.

First off, all AR-15 and other assault style rifles that are semi automatic and fire a specified (to be determined) type of ammunition must be registered in a federal data base. Those who own them now must register their weapons in 30 days or be in violation of the law, which could lead to the confiscation of all your firearms.

Secondly, a mandatory one week waiting period and background check on all of these types of gun purchases.

Third, special permission must be granted for this sale, which is dependent on the background of the purchaser. If they do not meet minimum requirements, they have the option of a gun safety course.

Fourth, all of these rifles can only be sold by someone with an FFL, you cannot purchase these from gun shows or private party sales.

These are just some simple steps that can be taken to prevent these mass slaughters. Look at recent shootings and the guns were purchased legally,, and used within days of purchase. A shooter can still use a pistol or rifle in a mass shooting, but we are trying the limit the damage when this happens.

For starters. Pistols are the biggest source of gun related crime and death in America. You're targeting a specific gun that is of little impact in the grand scheme of things.

You're also looking for quick and easy answers so you can be proud of yourself with little to no effort. You have quick and casual answers that don't actually solve the problem. The solution isn't on the surface, the solution is to find out why are mass shootings a problem when they were 30 years ago? The answer is simple, our society has changed. Guns didn't change, the concept of people hasn't changed, the only differing factor is our society has changed. Want to end gun violence or atleast drastically reduce it? Alter society because society being altered is what got us here in the first place.

Gun control doesn't mean shit. If you have a society of strong, willed, responsible, decent, and well developed people you don't see this nonsense. Values, morals, standards are what we need and we used to have them, hence no mass shootings like we do now.

Switzerland has gun ownership that rivals America but have the lowest gun related crime in Europe. Why? A solid society. They lack diversity so people are more comfortable, they love their country, they have a high rate of employment, high rate of education, good healthcare and so on.

You can vanish every gun in America right now and what would you have? All the crazies and nutballs and criminals still here. But what happens if you vanish all the nutballs and criminals? You know the answer to that.

You're answers don't solve the problem because you don't recognize the problem.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Fair enough. But it is not 1776 any more

Tell that to people in Ukraine. Or for a more domestic example, people in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina or people whose neighborhoods were caught up in the LA Riots in 91. Remember the roof top Koreans? Hell, the BLM riots just a few years ago that destroyed neighborhoods and resulted in 19 people killed.

You guys keep focusing on ARs for whatever bizarre reason, maybe because they look frightening or something, I don't know, but the Nashville shooter could have just as easily killed those six people with a 9mm handgun. In fact, some of these shooters have done exactly that.

Banning "assault" weapons isn't a solution, it's just intellectually lazy. It's putting a bandage with holes in it over a gaping wound. It's not the type of gun that's the issue, but rather a different underlaying cause that's resulting in people doing this that nobody seems to want to address.

 

[Batcat]

You need your governments permission to drive a car.

The right to drive a car is not in the Bill of Rights. The right to own a firearm is.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

For one thing, you now need an FFL to sell these rifles that fall under these new restrictions. There are still plenty of rifles and other firearms you can commit mass shootings with, but you'll see mass casualty events will be less deadly.

What data are you basing this on?

Furthermore, while I don't have the statistic in front of me at the moment, I read a couple of years back that only three percent of gun related homicides are committed with what you guys like to refer to as "assault" weapons. Even if ARs happen to be a preferred weapon of mass shooters, they'll simply use a different one if they are no longer available. Additionally, what difference does it make if one person kills six people at once in one shooting with an AR or six shooters with a standard handgun kill six different people in one day in Chicago? They're all equally dead, aren't they?