Simple question... do you agree with the following statement?

[OldLady]

Depends on who is in office at the time.

If it's your team, there was no crime and the investigation in moot.

If it's the other team, then all aspects of their personal life past, present and future should all be explored and exploited.

I'll agree with that.

Like Hillary and her emails? Which the cons still scream about .

Timmy, both sides have gone overboard. Sorry. Own it.

 

[alang1216]

Well it is a common tactic of law enforcement.

Pull the guy over for some bogus traffic violation. Suddenly you smell pot, now you search the car and so on. A simple illegal turn becomes a bunch of criminals charges !

God...How dumb are you.

First you type that you pull some one over for a bogus traffic violation
and then you end with..."a simple illegal turn becomes a bunch of
criminal charges." An illegal turn is not a bogus violation, asshole.

This is the big boy board. The 3rd grade playground can be reached
by opening the third door down the hall on the left.

He's not dumb at all. An illegal turn is not a criminal offense it is a civil traffic violation. These sometimes lead to a search of the car and criminal charges.

 

[jc456]

No . How do u investigate a crime without investigating the person?

why would you investigate the person without a crime? huh?

 

[easyt65]

No . How do u investigate a crime without investigating the person?

How do you conduct an investigation when no crime was ever committed?

MUELLER: "You accuse someone of a crime yet fail to present evidence a crime was ever committed."

 

[alang1216]

"You investigate the crime, not the person"

Al Capone

Bill Clinton

 

[jc456]

No . How do u investigate a crime without investigating the person?

Are you serious? Or just joking?

You investigate the crime....and part of that is absolutely investigate the people surrounding that CRIME.
You do not, however, use that crime to being a lifelong investigation into that persons life an all aspects of it.
THAT is investigating the person and not the crime.
HUGE difference.
Let's say - someone is accused of shoplifting.
The justice system does not therefore have the right to look into that persons business practices, start investigating the lives of everyone around them. Begin investigating their family to look for other crimes...hoping to find something, anything.
That is investigating the person, and not the crime.

You bellyaching about the Mueller investigation? In order to see if there was collusion or quid pro quo or whatever going on, in order to see if the Russians were blackmailing Trump based on prior shady business deals, YES he had to follow the money. In this case, the whole being involved with the Russians thing relates to finances. Unfortunately.

then why isn't he going after clinton and the people in the DNC that paid for the Dossier. plenty of evidence right there. If I'm manaford's lawyer, I bring the dossier into the court.

 

[easyt65]

why would you investigate the person without a crime? huh?

...because Trump beat Hillary 'The Felon' Clinton

 

[bendog]

No . How do u investigate a crime without investigating the person?

Are you serious? Or just joking?

You investigate the crime....and part of that is absolutely investigate the people surrounding that CRIME.
You do not, however, use that crime to being a lifelong investigation into that persons life an all aspects of it.
THAT is investigating the person and not the crime.
HUGE difference.
Let's say - someone is accused of shoplifting.
The justice system does not therefore have the right to look into that persons business practices, start investigating the lives of everyone around them. Begin investigating their family to look for other crimes...hoping to find something, anything.
That is investigating the person, and not the crime.

You bellyaching about the Mueller investigation? In order to see if there was collusion or quid pro quo or whatever going on, in order to see if the Russians were blackmailing Trump based on prior shady business deals, YES he had to follow the money. In this case, the whole being involved with the Russians thing relates to finances. Unfortunately.

then why isn't he going after clinton and the people in the DNC that paid for the Dossier. plenty of evidence right there. If I'm manaford's lawyer, I bring the dossier into the court.

ummm, because there's no possible crime in paying for opposition research. So long as it's disclosed in campaign finance reports.

 

[jc456]

No . How do u investigate a crime without investigating the person?

Are you serious? Or just joking?

You investigate the crime....and part of that is absolutely investigate the people surrounding that CRIME.
You do not, however, use that crime to being a lifelong investigation into that persons life an all aspects of it.
THAT is investigating the person and not the crime.
HUGE difference.
Let's say - someone is accused of shoplifting.
The justice system does not therefore have the right to look into that persons business practices, start investigating the lives of everyone around them. Begin investigating their family to look for other crimes...hoping to find something, anything.
That is investigating the person, and not the crime.

You bellyaching about the Mueller investigation? In order to see if there was collusion or quid pro quo or whatever going on, in order to see if the Russians were blackmailing Trump based on prior shady business deals, YES he had to follow the money. In this case, the whole being involved with the Russians thing relates to finances. Unfortunately.

then why isn't he going after clinton and the people in the DNC that paid for the Dossier. plenty of evidence right there. If I'm manaford's lawyer, I bring the dossier into the court.

ummm, because there's no possible crime in paying for opposition research. So long as it's disclosed in campaign finance reports.

huh? isn't that what jr was doing? you all need to get your stories straight.

 

[Timmy]

Well it is a common tactic of law enforcement.

Pull the guy over for some bogus traffic violation. Suddenly you smell pot, now you search the car and so on. A simple illegal turn becomes a bunch of criminals charges !

God...How dumb are you.

First you type that you pull some one over for a bogus traffic violation
and then you end with..."a simple illegal turn becomes a bunch of
criminal charges." An illegal turn is not a bogus violation, asshole.

This is the big boy board. The 3rd grade playground can be reached
by opening the third door down the hall on the left.

He's not dumb at all. An illegal turn is not a criminal offense it is a civil traffic violation. These sometimes lead to a search of the car and criminal charges.

How many times do you read a story about police busting someone wh a trunk full of pot, AFTER a traffic stop? You know the stop was probably bogus and they just look for a reason to search .

 

[jc456]

Well it is a common tactic of law enforcement.

Pull the guy over for some bogus traffic violation. Suddenly you smell pot, now you search the car and so on. A simple illegal turn becomes a bunch of criminals charges !

God...How dumb are you.

First you type that you pull some one over for a bogus traffic violation
and then you end with..."a simple illegal turn becomes a bunch of
criminal charges." An illegal turn is not a bogus violation, asshole.

This is the big boy board. The 3rd grade playground can be reached
by opening the third door down the hall on the left.

He's not dumb at all. An illegal turn is not a criminal offense it is a civil traffic violation. These sometimes lead to a search of the car and criminal charges.

How many times do you read a story about police busting someone wh a trunk full of pot, AFTER a traffic stop? You know the stop was probably bogus and they just look for a reason to search .

those generally get tossed if there was no justification. just saying. it's called an illegal search. need a warrant. A fake dossier to get one anyway.

 

[Timmy]

Well it is a common tactic of law enforcement.

Pull the guy over for some bogus traffic violation. Suddenly you smell pot, now you search the car and so on. A simple illegal turn becomes a bunch of criminals charges !

God...How dumb are you.

First you type that you pull some one over for a bogus traffic violation
and then you end with..."a simple illegal turn becomes a bunch of
criminal charges." An illegal turn is not a bogus violation, asshole.

This is the big boy board. The 3rd grade playground can be reached
by opening the third door down the hall on the left.

He's not dumb at all. An illegal turn is not a criminal offense it is a civil traffic violation. These sometimes lead to a search of the car and criminal charges.

How many times do you read a story about police busting someone wh a trunk full of pot, AFTER a traffic stop? You know the stop was probably bogus and they just look for a reason to search .

those generally get tossed if there was no justification. just saying. it's called an illegal search. need a warrant. A fake dossier to get one anyway.

Except the dossier was not the only evidence . We haven’t seen what exactly was used as proof to get a warrant .

 

[JakeStarkey]

Something smells very ripe on this page.

 

[jc456]

Well it is a common tactic of law enforcement.

Pull the guy over for some bogus traffic violation. Suddenly you smell pot, now you search the car and so on. A simple illegal turn becomes a bunch of criminals charges !

God...How dumb are you.

First you type that you pull some one over for a bogus traffic violation
and then you end with..."a simple illegal turn becomes a bunch of
criminal charges." An illegal turn is not a bogus violation, asshole.

This is the big boy board. The 3rd grade playground can be reached
by opening the third door down the hall on the left.

He's not dumb at all. An illegal turn is not a criminal offense it is a civil traffic violation. These sometimes lead to a search of the car and criminal charges.

How many times do you read a story about police busting someone wh a trunk full of pot, AFTER a traffic stop? You know the stop was probably bogus and they just look for a reason to search .

those generally get tossed if there was no justification. just saying. it's called an illegal search. need a warrant. A fake dossier to get one anyway.

Except the dossier was not the only evidence . We haven’t seen what exactly was used as proof to get a warrant .

let's see the application then.

 

[Timmy]

Depends on who is in office at the time.

If it's your team, there was no crime and the investigation in moot.

If it's the other team, then all aspects of their personal life past, present and future should all be explored and exploited.

I'll agree with that.

Like Hillary and her emails? Which the cons still scream about .

Timmy, both sides have gone overboard. Sorry. Own it.

Yep. Turnabout is fair play .

Which side has the mantra “If you have nothing to hide , what’s the big deal?”

 

[jc456]

Depends on who is in office at the time.

If it's your team, there was no crime and the investigation in moot.

If it's the other team, then all aspects of their personal life past, present and future should all be explored and exploited.

I'll agree with that.

Like Hillary and her emails? Which the cons still scream about .

Timmy, both sides have gone overboard. Sorry. Own it.

Yep. Turnabout is fair play .

Which side has the mantra “If you have nothing to hide , what’s the big deal?”

who's hiding?

 

[Timmy]

God...How dumb are you.

First you type that you pull some one over for a bogus traffic violation
and then you end with..."a simple illegal turn becomes a bunch of
criminal charges." An illegal turn is not a bogus violation, asshole.

This is the big boy board. The 3rd grade playground can be reached
by opening the third door down the hall on the left.

He's not dumb at all. An illegal turn is not a criminal offense it is a civil traffic violation. These sometimes lead to a search of the car and criminal charges.

How many times do you read a story about police busting someone wh a trunk full of pot, AFTER a traffic stop? You know the stop was probably bogus and they just look for a reason to search .

those generally get tossed if there was no justification. just saying. it's called an illegal search. need a warrant. A fake dossier to get one anyway.

Except the dossier was not the only evidence . We haven’t seen what exactly was used as proof to get a warrant .

let's see the application then.

I’d like to see it! But they won’t release it because the investigation is still going on .

 

[Defiant1]

No . How do u investigate a crime without investigating the person?

That sounds racist

Well it is a common tactic of law enforcement.

Pull the guy over for some bogus traffic violation. Suddenly you smell pot, now you search the car and so on. A simple illegal turn becomes a bunch of criminals charges !

No.
If an officer smells pot, then he is possibly witnessing a crime...he would still be investigating the crime and not the person.
If a person gets pulled over, gets a ticket...then later that day cops show up at their residence saying they want to also search the house...at the same time subpoena their tax records, and get a warrant for not only their phone records, but phone records of their business acquaintances also....that is investigating the person and not the crime.
And that is absolutely not not a "common tactic"

My point is that it’s a crime chain reaction .
If you run across money laundering while investigating collusion , the cops ain’t going to ignore the newly discovered crime .

Collusion isn't a crime.

 

[jc456]

He's not dumb at all. An illegal turn is not a criminal offense it is a civil traffic violation. These sometimes lead to a search of the car and criminal charges.

How many times do you read a story about police busting someone wh a trunk full of pot, AFTER a traffic stop? You know the stop was probably bogus and they just look for a reason to search .

those generally get tossed if there was no justification. just saying. it's called an illegal search. need a warrant. A fake dossier to get one anyway.

Except the dossier was not the only evidence . We haven’t seen what exactly was used as proof to get a warrant .

let's see the application then.

I’d like to see it! But they won’t release it because the investigation is still going on .

then ask that it get released.

 

[Votto]

"You investigate the crime, not the person"

It's like Al Capone. Out of all the people he murdered and stole from, they ended up getting him on tax evasion.

In the example of Trump, however, even the allegations are not illegal. They just want him impeached, for which, the Dims just need to win Congress back.