Should trans-gender nudity be forced on 13 year old females?

[Slade3200]

Read the link. It's a Korean tradition for women and girls to go to these spas and be naked. It's their business.

Why do you want deviant naked men to be allowed in there and forced on them?

Again. I’m not seeing force of any kind. Are you intentionally trying to be hyperbolic and dishonest?

 

[Slade3200]

Only the left.

How so?

 

[Eman623]

Again. I’m not seeing force of any kind. Are you intentionally trying to be hyperbolic and dishonest?

The law forces the spa to allow the swinging dick (in every sense of the word) to enter the nude, women-only areas.

 

[JBG]

I'm saddened that the OP redacted "swinging dicks". This is part of the dissent, which is public record and should totally be part of the discussion.

I know but there are forum rules and most require "G-rated" language. I linked interested readers to the language.

 

[Independent thinker]

The majority opinion of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, the second highest court for the Pacific rim states, in OLYMPUS SPA; et al., Plaintiffs - Appellants, v. ANDRETA ARMSTRONG, Exec. Dir. of the Washington State Hum. Rts. Comm'n & MADISON IMIOLA, Defendants - Appellees., No. 23-4031, 2026 WL 700882, affirmed a Washington State statute that was enforced to require a nude, female-only spa to admit males who consider themselves females. I am highlighting the dissenting opinion, omitting certain language that appears in a published judicial decision that may violate TOS (complete language may be obtained by viewing decision or the blog discussion). I think, shorn of this language, the dissent by Judge Vandyke gets it right:


Above the Law - A Legal Web Sitewrites in ‘We Are Better Than This,’ Say Ninth Circuit Judges Despite All Evidence To The Contrary:

I personally believe that SCOTUS’s decision in the case which held that the State of Colorado could not force a bakery to bake a cake celebrating a gay marriage excuses private businesses from having to allow patently offensive conduct on their premises. I do not believe that minor children should be exposed to cross-gender nudity either in furtherance of a “Frankenstein social experiment.”

From AI:

The Ninth Circuit Court has faced a high number of reversals by the Supreme Court. In the October 2020 term, it had a reversal rate of 94%, with 15 out of 16 cases overturned. Historically, since 2007, the Ninth Circuit has been reversed approximately 79% of the time, making it the circuit with the highest number of reversals overall



It's a shame their garbage rulings have to stand until being overturned.

And the left are worried about the Epstein files while shit like this happens?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What did you get your medical degree, with a specialty in gender issues???

Unless you have this training, you're not qualified to make this assessment.

What medical training says penises should be allowed into women's locker rooms and bathrooms?

 

[alang1216]

The majority opinion of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, the second highest court for the Pacific rim states, in OLYMPUS SPA; et al., Plaintiffs - Appellants, v. ANDRETA ARMSTRONG, Exec. Dir. of the Washington State Hum. Rts. Comm'n & MADISON IMIOLA, Defendants - Appellees., No. 23-4031, 2026 WL 700882, affirmed a Washington State statute that was enforced to require a nude, female-only spa to admit males who consider themselves females. I am highlighting the dissenting opinion, omitting certain language that appears in a published judicial decision that may violate TOS (complete language may be obtained by viewing decision or the blog discussion). I think, shorn of this language, the dissent by Judge Vandyke gets it right:


Above the Law - A Legal Web Sitewrites in ‘We Are Better Than This,’ Say Ninth Circuit Judges Despite All Evidence To The Contrary:

I personally believe that SCOTUS’s decision in the case which held that the State of Colorado could not force a bakery to bake a cake celebrating a gay marriage excuses private businesses from having to allow patently offensive conduct on their premises. I do not believe that minor children should be exposed to cross-gender nudity either in furtherance of a “Frankenstein social experiment.”

A private business like this one should be free to discriminate by gender. The government should not be involved. Letting Trans women use the women's bathroom is different since there should be no impact on minors.

 

[80zephyr]

Is anybody actually trying to promote forced nude exposure to children? Or are you just making up another strawman ?

Why do you think the court case exists? There have been instances in the news.

 

[Seymour Flops]

A private business like this one should be free to discriminate by gender. The government should not be involved. Letting Trans women use the women's bathroom is different since there should be no impact on minors.

How so?

Do minors not go into the women's and men's restrooms?

 

[Seymour Flops]

I'm concerned about there.Being establishments in the united states where nudity is allowed and children are also allowed.

Such places are bound to be a magnet for pedophiles.

I know they do it in other countries. I was stationed in germany and both missus flopps and I went to nude recreation places. There were very few children there, but I thought that number should be zero.

Of course.I'm willing to let germany be germany and let korea be korea.

 

[Invisibleflash]

The majority opinion of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, the second highest court for the Pacific rim states, in OLYMPUS SPA; et al., Plaintiffs - Appellants, v. ANDRETA ARMSTRONG, Exec. Dir. of the Washington State Hum. Rts. Comm'n & MADISON IMIOLA, Defendants - Appellees., No. 23-4031, 2026 WL 700882, affirmed a Washington State statute that was enforced to require a nude, female-only spa to admit males who consider themselves females. I am highlighting the dissenting opinion, omitting certain language that appears in a published judicial decision that may violate TOS (complete language may be obtained by viewing decision or the blog discussion). I think, shorn of this language, the dissent by Judge Vandyke gets it right:


Above the Law - A Legal Web Sitewrites in ‘We Are Better Than This,’ Say Ninth Circuit Judges Despite All Evidence To The Contrary:

I personally believe that SCOTUS’s decision in the case which held that the State of Colorado could not force a bakery to bake a cake celebrating a gay marriage excuses private businesses from having to allow patently offensive conduct on their premises. I do not believe that minor children should be exposed to cross-gender nudity either in furtherance of a “Frankenstein social experiment.”

Could not vote. You did not have my choice.

 

[alang1216]

How so?

Do minors not go into the women's and men's restrooms?

A restroom is not a locker room. People don't go around naked. At least I don't.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Lefties, just say you dont mind men exposing themselves to children.

Why the mental gymnastics?

 

[Seymour Flops]

A restroom is not a locker room. People don't go around naked. At least I don't.

Serious question then: if restroom stalls are private enough that it's okay for grown men to be in the same restroom with little girls, why have public restrooms at all?

Just have the toilets along one wall of the restaurant, gym, achool, or grocery store with stalls, providing all the privacy needed? Exactly.Who is private from whom in a public restroom which anybody can go into any one they want?

That would actually be safer, because any little child in distress would be heard immediately.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Serious question then: if restroom stalls are private enough that it's okay for grown men to be in the same restroom with little girls, why have public restrooms at all?

Just have the toilets along one wall of the restaurant, gym, achool, or grocery store with stalls, providing all the privacy needed? Exactly.Who is private from whom in a public restroom which anybody can go into any one they want?

That would actually be safer, because any little child in distress would be heard immediately.

Many restrooms in Europe are not split by sex.

 

[alang1216]

Serious question then: if restroom stalls are private enough that it's okay for grown men to be in the same restroom with little girls, why have public restrooms at all?

Just have the toilets along one wall of the restaurant, gym, achool, or grocery store with stalls, providing all the privacy needed? Exactly.Who is private from whom in a public restroom which anybody can go into any one they want?

That would actually be safer, because any little child in distress would be heard immediately.

A good point. I've been to one restaurant with unisex bathrooms with stalls and didn't have a problem with it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Many restrooms in Europe are not split by sex.

So, in Europe, you would send a female child into a restroom with grown men?

 

[Seymour Flops]

A good point. I've been to one restaurant with unisex bathrooms with stalls and didn't have a problem with it.

And you would send a female child whose safety you are responsible for into a restroom with grown men?

I have to believe you.

Let's just say that you are in a small minority. I don't even think this is an 80-20 issue, but more of a 95-5 issue.

 

[The Duke]

Yes, many people want children exposed to every imaginable deviance they can think of.

Jesus had a cure for that. Owait, he said it would be better if that happened to them than what he would do.
Ayatollah found out.
It's Sunday, And I can testify that if you let go and let God?
God will get them, and worse than you ever could conceive.
That's a law of this world.
When God said "Vengeance is mine", you should pay attention to that, you can take your own, but it will never be as good as if God did it. He got that special flare to it!
It's time for to stop before it gets all gruesome.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Jesus had a cure for that. Owait, he said it would be better if that happened to them than what he would do.
Ayatollah found out.

Ah yup!