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That's what parents do. They make decisions for their kids. As kids get older, parents give the kids more responsibility to make their own decisions, but parents retain "veto" power until the kids officially become adults. If you take away parents ability to make decisions for their kids, then you take away their ability to parent.Why
Why?
Some states allow you to marry at 15, however in all states you can only marry under the age of 18 with parental cnsent, otherwise you wait until 18.Ahmed is 16.
In most states, that means he can marry.
If he can marry then why the hell can't he make his own determinations about his sexual identity?
I think at 16, if the child is allowed to buy guns, marry, even with consent, and even become emancipated in some states, that child is old enough to have a say in his own medical decisions. If he wants to, and the parents don’t, who should the state support?
He cannot own it. He can possess it, but you must be 18 to own it..
And he can own/possess an AR-15 and ammunition.
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Sure with consent by parents. With a sex change operation which is much more permanent and much more intense should also be with parental consent until they are 18 and the parents are no longer responsible. If the state removes parental control and allows him to have the operation, then the state should bear the cost and responsibility from that moment on. As they are making the decisions rather than the parents. At that point, I believe the government is overstepping their authority and should be reeled in for abuse of power.Who said anything about with or without parental consent? My point stands. He can marry.
He cannot own it. He can possess it, but you must be 18 to own it.
Complete rubbish. Its an over hyped topic, no need to add liesA the Planned Parenthood clinic they give parents a "choice" early in pregnancy whether to raise their child "as" a boy or girl — so with the "appropriate" treatment of anabolic steroids administered in utero via amniocentesis they can raise a girl, conceived with the XX chromosome pair, "as" a boy, force her to grow male genitalia, shrivel her ovaries, cause her to develop testicles, and "assign" a male biological sex to her at birth.
It can be done of course but it is more difficult and less desirable and pleasing for the ladies and gentlemen of the district to force a male fetus to grow up "as" female.
Remember it is especially women's sports we are talking about, even as Samson's hair was cut, and he was blinded and put in prison for the sport of women, and Samson at his death killed more Philistines than he did while alive, and judged Israel twenty years.
There are a lot of crazy parents out there, SO no wonder there are a lot of confused children.The parents.
Wrong answer..
There is no age restriction in Federal Statue in regard to owning/possessing an AR-15 and ammunition.
In some cases Minors cannot purchase an AR-15.
They can however receive one as a gift, and actually own it.
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www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Reading your thoughts quite carefully Papageorigo, there might be concern about a certain subset of the government planning just that - to take over decisions that parents are currently making. There is evidence that members of the extreme leftists would embrace government control over adolescent decisions, if allowed.Sure with consent by parents. With a sex change operation which is much more permanent and much more intense should also be with parental consent until they are 18 and the parents are no longer responsible. If the state removes parental control and allows him to have the operation, then the state should bear the cost and responsibility from that moment on. As they are making the decisions rather than the parents. At that point, I believe the government is overstepping their authority and should be reeled in for abuse of power.
Wrong answer.
Under the Gun Control Act (GCA), shotguns and rifles, and ammunition for shotguns or rifles may be sold only to individuals 18 years of age or older. All firearms other than shotguns and rifles, and all ammunition other than ammunition for shotguns or rifles may be sold only to individuals 21 years of age or older. Licensees are bound by the minimum age requirements established by the GCA regardless of State or local law. However, if State law or local ordinances establish a higher minimum age for the purchase or disposition of firearms, the licensee must observe the higher age requirement.
[18 U.S.C. 922(b)(1) and (b)(2); 27 CFR 478.99(b)]
Now, you were saying what?
Which part?Not true.
Reading your thoughts quite carefully Papageorigo, there might be concern about a certain subset of the government planning just that - to take over decisions that parents are currently making. There is evidence that members of the extreme leftists would embrace government control over adolescent decisions, if allowed.
www.buzzfeednews.com
www.theguardian.com
www.vox.com
I am having doubts about tbe veracity of the OP. Everything I can find indicates that in order to perform the surgery, the person must at least 18 and meet a number of conditions. Puberty blockers might be used, but hormone therapy is likewise restricted (all of which I agree with).Sure with consent by parents. With a sex change operation which is much more permanent and much more intense should also be with parental consent until they are 18 and the parents are no longer responsible. If the state removes parental control and allows him to have the operation, then the state should bear the cost and responsibility from that moment on. As they are making the decisions rather than the parents. At that point, I believe the government is overstepping their authority and should be reeled in for abuse of power.
I heard about this story on the Andrew Klavan show....Abigail Shrier wrote a book about the Transgender push that is essentially child abuse by the medical and psychiatric profession. This is a story she covered in an article for City Journal.....
Here is the story...
Ahmed is a Pakistani immigrant, a faithful Muslim, and until recently, a financial consultant to Seattle’s high-tech sector. But when he reached me by phone in October 2020, he was just one more frightened father. Days earlier, he and his wife had checked their 16-year-old son into Seattle Children’s Hospital for credible threats of suicide. Now, Ahmed was worried that the white coats who had gently admitted his son to their care would refuse to return him.
“They sent an email to us, you know, ‘you should take your ‘daughter’ to the gender clinic,’” he told me.
At first, Ahmed (I have changed names in this essay to protect the identities of minor children) assumed there had been a mistake. He had dropped off a son, Syed, to the hospital, in a terrible state of distress. Now, the email he received from the mental health experts used a new name for that son and claimed he was Ahmed’s daughter. “They were trying to create a customer for their gender clinic . . . and they seemed to absolutely want to push us in that direction,” he said when I spoke to him again this May, recalling the horror of last October. “We had calls with counselors and therapists in the establishment, telling us how important it is for him to change his gender, because that’s the only way he’s going to be better out of this suicidal depressive state.”
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The age at which minors in the State of Washington can receive mental health and gender-affirming care without parental permission is 13. In other words, the emails Ahmed received from the hospital were effectively a courtesy; the hospital did not require Ahmed’s permission to begin his son on a path to medical transition.
But unlike some other parents I would later speak with, Ahmed’s cool head prevailed. Believing he might be walking into a trap, Ahmed reached out to both a lawyer and a psychiatrist friend he trusted. The psychiatrist gave him advice that he believes saved his son, saying, in Ahmed’s words:
“You have to be very, very careful, because if you come across as just even a little bit anti-trans or anything, they’re going to call the Child Protective Services on you and take custody of your kid.” The lawyer told Ahmed the same: “What you want to do is agree with them and take your kid home. When the gender counselors advise you to ‘affirm,’ go along with it. Just say ‘Uh-huh, uh-huh, okay, let’s take him home, and we’ll go to the gender clinic.’”
Ahmed assured Seattle Children’s Hospital that he would take his son to a gender clinic and commence his son’s transition. Instead, he collected his son, quit his job, and moved his family of four out of Washington.
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Should the state be able to take your children and then allow them to change their physical form.....without your consent...........by force?
I am having doubts about tbe veracity of the OP. Everything I can find indicates that in order to perform the surgery, the person must at least 18 and meet a number of conditions. Puberty blockers might be used, but hormone therapy is likewise restricted (all of which I agree with).
Is it hormone treatments or puberty blockers?.
I found an article about a California law that mentions children as young as 12 receiving hormone treatments without parental consent.
Closer review of the article and text also emphasizes the concern and legislation focusing more on foster children though.
The foster parents have no say-so, and the child can proceed without parental consent ... Costs covered by Med-Cal.
Other reviews also indicate that surgery is an entirely different matter and can carry restrictions as high as 25 years old.
There is also an arduous standard and process, that actually makes a person eligible for surgery below a certain age.
That process/policy would usually disqualify a candidate until a later age, if it was truly followed to its intent.
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Is it hormone treatments or puberty blockers?
Coyote, let’s not lose the baby in that dirty bathwater. (I like that you can jump out of box though, because I do that all the time!) I’ll address your points before going back to gender surgery, and why adolescents might change their mind post-surgery.Take over decisions like these? Are the parents right? What rights do the minors have to accept or refuse treatment?
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