Should indigenous Indian day be celebrated with Thanksgiving?

[Leo123]

The idea that Indians have some sort of hostility to Thanksgiving is a figment of liberal imagination. It was invented so liberals can feel a made up solidarity. Most Indians are Christians and celebrate ThanksgivIng.

Yes, I just posted a Thanksgiving dinner flyer from the local Casino. These liberals will lie about anything, it's really disgusting.

 

[JGalt]

The God of the Bible.

The one and only. All the imaginary others are counterfeit as a three dollar bill.

 

[petro]

Only a small handful of leftist Indians are peeved about Thanksgiving.

The rest are too busy counting the money their casinos and smoke shops are bringing in.

White people donate at the Tribal Reparations Centers with a smile on their face.

 

[Pellinore]

Which god?

I'd go with "their Creator," as the Declaration of Independence put it.

 

[Pellinore]

Lucky me, this is my subject.

There is no question that white people, in general, treated Native Americans like garbage for hundreds of years. The disease that wiped out 90-ish percent of the Native Americans was neither the fault of, nor particularly understood by, Europeans long before they landed or settled in what is now Florida, New Mexico, Virginia, or Massachusetts. That said, almost every white settler certainly took advantage of it, leveraging their social, academic, and technological advances to cheat, swindle, steal from, marginalize, abuse, enslave, or outright massacre Native Americans in stupefying numbers. These only expanded in scope and cruelty as nations were established and armies stampeded west, and there are mountains of historical evidence to support all of that, sometimes literally.

There are, however, exceptions, and the relationship between the Plymouth Colony and the Wampanoag Tribe is one of them. For thirty or so years, the bond between Plymouth under Governor Bradford and the Wampanoags under Massasoit was one of genuine friendship and mutual respect. Even as conflicts such as the Pequot War raging just outside its borders and colonies such as Massachusetts Bay and New Amsterdam grew to impose their will on anyone they could find, these two settlements remained, in many ways, the ideal that people today wish all of European-Native relations had been over two continents and four centuries.

It is therefore totally justifiable for Native Americans and their sympathizers to criticize the actions of the white settlers; even when comparing them only to those of their own time, their actions as a whole were brutal and merciless. To tear down the feast we celebrate at Thanksgiving, however, and the two settlements who attended, is to aim at the wrong target. They were in many ways the only good guys in town.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

 

[Hellbilly]

Many American Indians see Thanksgiving as a day of mourning. They say this day called Thanksgiving, represents the destruction and theft of their land , America, and their people. After the Indians showed the white Pilgrims what plants, and animals that can be eaten, they were slaughtered, and their land stolen from them. Many American Indians see the celebration as a big insult, upon the most evil act of their genocide, and theft of their land. Your thoughts on this "Thanksgiving" celebration.?

Why would anyone celebrate a day where women and children were burned alive, while they slept?

 

[Pellinore]

Why would anyone celebrate a day where women and children were burned alive, while they slept?

Nobody does. If you're referring to the burning of Mistick Fort, that happened between two other colonies against a different Native American tribe.

 

[Hellbilly]

Nobody does. If you're referring to the burning of Mistick Fort, that happened between two other colonies against a different Native American tribe.

Not what I was referring to.

 

[whitehall]

Celebrate anything and anyone you want any time. Just don't force me to do it.

 

[Pellinore]

Not what I was referring to.

What, then, were you referring to?