Should Illegals who have Served in the U.S. Military be Granted Legal Status?

[citygator]

Grownups are talking here. Go play in the Rubber Room.

Make me.

 

[Crepitus]

A convincing argument against sissies in combat.

Stupid macho chest-thumping notwithstanding PTSD is a serious problem and does not mean one is a "sissy".

 

[Manonthestreet]

The GOP wants brown people out. They say they are evicting criminals but they are just evicting kids, grandmas, military heroes and their families. The reason there is a process other than rounding up brown people is so the US can evaluate all claims. The GOP is an evil ******* cult that will die painfully in poverty as the GOP elite rape and pillage their own and I am here for the entertainment.

If ya don't have a border ya don't have a country. How many children did Biden disappear for lib pedos to abuse.

 

[Harry Dresden]

derp dee derp. This thread is a perfect example of the overzealousness of the right to see suffering that they dont care who get caught up in it. However, they are so stupid they support a political party that continues to cut my taxes because they like to hurt brown folks. I am laughing at you guys all the way to the bank. Cha Ching Cha Ching.

has nothing to do with what i said...you party people call each other the same dam thing.....and both are right....

 

[BrokeLoser]

Miguel Perez Jr. (Mexico): A U.S. Army veteran who served two tours in Afghanistan, he developed PTSD and a drug habit, leading to a cocaine conviction and deportation to Mexico.

Jose Barco (Colombia): A Purple Heart recipient injured by an IED in Iraq, Barco was deported to Colombia after serving time for drug charges, despite his severe combat injuries and PTSD.

Sae Joon Park (South Korea): A Purple Heart recipient who served in Panama, Park self-deported to Korea after a drug offense conviction, having lived in the U.S. since age 7.

Jose Marquez (Dominican Republic): A U.S. Army veteran deported to the Dominican Republic due to drug crime convictions after years of service.

Yes, they and their immediate family deserve citizenship.

A convincing argument against sissies in combat.

Crepitus says:
“Look, Brown people don’t have the mental capacity to serve without becoming crime committing head-cases.”

You make a good point Crepitus…Thanks.

 

[BrokeLoser]

The GOP wants brown people out. They say they are evicting criminals but they are just evicting kids, grandmas, military heroes and their families. The reason there is a process other than rounding up brown people is so the US can evaluate all claims. The GOP is an evil ******* cult that will die painfully in poverty as the GOP elite rape and pillage their own and I am here for the entertainment.

I wonder why good real core Americans would MUCH prefer to live in a MUCH whiter America?
Is it because all that pesky data that you refuse to acknowledge?

https://www.lapdonline.org/lapd-most-wanted/
Probation - Los Angeles County
https://stophoustongangs.org/default.aspx?menuitemid=197&menugroup=Home
https://idoc.illinois.gov/offender/wantedfugitives.html

 

[Crepitus]

Crepitus says:
“Look, Brown people don’t have the mental capacity to serve without becoming crime committing head-cases.”

You make a good point Crepitus…Thanks.

WTF?

Will you stop being such a moron. PTSD happens to white people too you ******* dumbass.

 

[Hafar1014]

I wonder why good real core Americans would MUCH prefer to live in a MUCH whiter America?
Is it because all that pesky data that you refuse to acknowledge?

https://www.lapdonline.org/lapd-most-wanted/
Probation - Los Angeles County
https://stophoustongangs.org/default.aspx?menuitemid=197&menugroup=Home
https://idoc.illinois.gov/offender/wantedfugitives.html

You are aware of the Somali scandal in 2 states

 

[Crepitus]

I wonder why good real core Americans would MUCH prefer to live in a MUCH whiter America?
Is it because all that pesky data that you refuse to acknowledge?

https://www.lapdonline.org/lapd-most-wanted/
Probation - Los Angeles County
https://stophoustongangs.org/default.aspx?menuitemid=197&menugroup=Home
https://idoc.illinois.gov/offender/wantedfugitives.html

You ******* racists have no connection to actual reality. You just tried to claim only brown people get PTSD.

 

[IM2]

Should Illegals who have Served in the U.S. Military be Granted Legal Status?​

Yes.

 

[IM2]

You are aware of the Somali scandal in 2 states

And the many white scandals going n in most of the other 48.

 

[citygator]

 

[Woodznutz]

There immediate family members as well?

Here a Dem or "not Dem" congressdude presses Sec of DHS about some one veteran who was in the country illegally, served in the military, went on to commit crimes (drug offences), and was deported as a result of the crimes bringing his illegal status to the attention of the authorities.



He also brings up a father of three veterans who was arrested at an IHOP where he was working as a landscaper. Then an Irish legal immigrant who had been in jail for four months for writing two bad checks. She wasn't deported, she went to jail for check fraud.

A comment on his presentation: he led with the veteran, and it seems that the other examples, which were not veterans who had been deported, but other tales of woe about people who entered illegally and were sent back. That tells me that this congressman could only find a single example of a veteran being deported.

Still, one injustice is one injustice too many. Should this veteran be given automatic residence for serving? If so, under what conditions?

I'd be fine with carefully vetted veterans being given temporary legal status for the same length of time that they served, provided they committed no crimes, and did not join or support anti-American causes.

But all that would have to legislated. This congressman is trying to lay a guilt trip on Noem for enforcing laws that he, as a lawmaker has the power to try to change. She does not. I have no idea what he thinks Noem has to do with the check fraud case.

The overarching problem is that we simply have more people than we need or can employ. Too many passengers will sink the ship. As it is the water is coming over the gunwales.

 

[Mac-7]

Miguel Perez Jr. (Mexico): A U.S. Army veteran who served two tours in Afghanistan, he developed PTSD and a drug habit, leading to a cocaine conviction and deportation to Mexico.

Jose Barco (Colombia): A Purple Heart recipient injured by an IED in Iraq, Barco was deported to Colombia after serving time for drug charges, despite his severe combat injuries and PTSD.

Sae Joon Park (South Korea): A Purple Heart recipient who served in Panama, Park self-deported to Korea after a drug offense conviction, having lived in the U.S. since age 7.

Jose Marquez (Dominican Republic): A U.S. Army veteran deported to the Dominican Republic due to drug crime convictions after years of service.

Yes, they and their immediate family deserve citizenship.

Nonsense

They had their chance to earn citizenship and they blew it

Being a druggie is no excuse

 

[Woodznutz]

Nonsense

They had their chance to earn citizenship and they blew it

Being a druggie is no excuse

True. Adding addiction and trafficking to your problems doesn't help.

That said it must be noted that the military runs on alcohol and drugs. Alcoholism is rampant among career military. Early death is common soon after retirement. Suicide is another huge problem among active military and veterans.

 

[Lockback]

"Should Illegals who have Served in the U.S. Military be Granted Legal Status?"​

If I clean toilets in the Royal Palace should I become a King?

Illegal invaders should never have been recruited into the Army in the first place.

Precisely.
We simply should not allow non-citizens to serve in our armed forces.

 

[Delldude]

Legal immigrants only. Green card holders. I don't think an illegal could enlist legally.

Naturalization Through Military Service | USCIS

If you meet all the requirements of either section 328 or 329 of the INA, you may apply for naturalization by filing Form N-400, Application for Naturalization, under the section that applies to you. You will not have to pay any fees for applying for naturalization under INA 328 or 329. As a...

www.uscis.gov

Miguel Perez Jr. was born in Mexico and came to the United States with his family at 8 years
old. He became a legal resident at age 11. Perez’s two children and parents live in Illinois and are
U.S. citizens.

https://chuygarcia.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/chuygarcia-evo.house.gov/files/Miguel%20Perez%20Story.pdf

 

[Stryder50]

The issue of whether they should be allowed to serve or not aside, if someone signs up for military duty and willing to die for their country than yes, they should be fast tracked to citizenship.

What greater sacrifice could you ask of someone? What greater test of loyalty to a nation?

If we aren't checking for citizenship, how do we know if they have any other agenda ?
If we are that sloppy on vetting enlistees then we could be letting Jihadis in, giving them free military weapon and tactics training, and also insights on how to do damage from inside.

My bigger question and concern is why and how are we enlisting persons who broke laws to enter this country.

Alternatively, maybe it's time for an American Foreign Legion and length and quality of service MIGHT give you an easier pathway to citizenship.

Persons who have entered this nation legally and then seek citizenship go through a process that takes a few years and a few thou$and$ of dollar$. Offering cheap shortcuts to criminals (illegals) is more than insult to injury !

 

[Stryder50]

The issue of whether they should be allowed to serve or not aside, if someone signs up for military duty and willing to die for their country than yes, they should be fast tracked to citizenship.

What greater sacrifice could you ask of someone? What greater test of loyalty to a nation?

Usually, only about one out of ten military members will be in a combat branch/MOS and risking that "willing to die" part of military service.

Signing up to be a cook or mechanic isn't quite the situation where "willing to die for OUR country" is likely to occur.

 

[Stryder50]

When I was 8-years old and pretty much every few years since then. One of my favorites and the movie DID NOT do it justice.

The movie only presented a few parts/concepts from the book.
Totally embarrassing and gross mis-statement.
RAH likely rolling in his grave over that abomination.