SHOCKING: Did Anyone see Joy Reid defend an LGBTQ book about rape and incest against Mom's For Liberty?

[MinTrut]

Let's take a look at that. First, we're talking about the military practices of the Middle East during the Bronze Age, a time that can hardly be compared to the sensibilities of the 21st century Western World, so they routinely did things we would be horrified at today. Second, David was the king of a nation. When the history books talk about Truman dropping the Bomb on Japan, do they talk about his private morality and say he committed a great sin? Do they go into mourning over the dead and injured, or do they point out that dropping the bomb cut short the war and the long, drawn-out horror and devastation that would have been the invasion of the Japanese mainland? IOW, do we glorify death and destruction in our history books when we talk about the atomic bomb or the bombing of Dresden? Thus it is with King David. He was the king of a nation, and he did some very unsavory things that kings often do. Remember, though, that he was prevented from building the temple for God because of the blood on his hands and the violence he had perpetuated. He was not glorified in what he did. In short, by recording what David did, the Bible is not glorifying his atrocities.

So, yes, David did some bad things, but received praise for being a man who sought after God and repented when he was confronted with his sin. I'd like to see the reference you have, though, that says he sexually mutilated bodies. I am very aware that he beheaded the corpses of his dead enemies and put their heads on display to serve as a warning to other enemies. That was not even controversial in his day.

Finally, is it glorifying atrocious behavior to record that it occurred?

It's glorifying when it instructs horrendous acts and makes heroes of those who commit them.

 

[MinTrut]

Ms Reid and I don't share a proclivity for the same sort of porn.

But, I don't begrudge her personal kink.

Pornography is defined as "the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement."

You're saying that you're excited by this brief passage?

Because I think most adults would have a VERY different reaction more akin to sorrow and empathy.

But I don't begrudge you your personal kink - as long as you don't try to impose it on others, or act upon it.

 

[MinTrut]

Do history books that relate the massive death and suffering in WWII glorify nuclear bombs and carpet-bombing cities, or do they record events that occurred because no one had a better means of stopping evil at the time?

Addressed.

 

[hadit]

Wasn't there just a big movie - based on a big book - that glorified the atom bomb?

Lots of Oscar nominations I think.

But yeah, the Bible glorifies horrendous and inhuman crimes.

Seems to me that's been glorified a lot too, in books and art.

Vietnam?

That's a tricky one, as it's been both disparaged AND glorified.

Interesting to see the progression - or regression - there.

The point being the history doesn't have to be glorifying anything to record it.

 

[hadit]

It's glorifying when it instructs horrendous acts and makes heroes of those who commit them.

Which it does not do. Tell you what, find me a section that tells me to kill children. I'll wait.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Oh please - consplain it to me!

It's not merely mentioning, it's instructing and glorifying horrendous crimes against children.

Have you not read the Bible?

Maybe do that & get back to us.

So you've changed your mind about banning the book Joy defended?

Good on you.

Well, I'm not dishonest enough to set up multiple "burner" accounts here as you have, Joy.

I don't need help setting up "burner" accounts, Joy - I don't do it as you do because it's dishonest and against the rules.

Wow I really can’t help you.

 

[BS Filter]

I saw it. Reid is an arrogant nasty jackal.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Ahhh, look at the fake libertarian in here trying to deflect and derail.

He referred to himself as moderately right wing in a recent poll. So did odanny.

I don't know who they think they are fooling. All but the most very extreme leftists oppose this sissy training little boys are being subjected to.

 

[MinTrut]

The point being the history doesn't have to be glorifying anything to record it.

Irrelevant.

The Bible glorifies the rape, kidnapping, torture and murder of children as well as a a huge amount of additional child-inappropriate content.

But like the LGBTQ book causing conservatives to become aroused, it's fine for 12+s.

 

[MinTrut]

Which it does not do.

You REALLY need to read the Bible and then get back to us.

Tell you what, find me a section that tells me to kill children. I'll wait.

Already addressed in numerous other threads here, including threads you participated in.

The Bible's fine for 12+s however, though adult supervision would ideally attend, as it's a very disturbing book.

 

[MinTrut]

Wow I really can’t help you.

That's correct; you need to help yourself.

 

[Mac-7]

The Bible glorifies the rape, kidnapping, torture and murder of children as well as a a huge amount of additional child-inappropriate content.

No it doesent anymore than a book about WWII glorifies nazi germany

 

[MinTrut]

No it doesent

It does.

anymore than a book about WWII glorifies nazi germany

Which book?

Some do.

But the Bible is fine for 12+s.

 

[Mac-7]

It does.

Which book?

Some do.

But the Bible is fine for 12+s.

Its too bad that you dont get it

But thats not my problem

 

[MinTrut]

Its too bad that you dont get it

I got my first Bible many years ago.

Maybe you should read yours if you have one?

But thats not my problem

They're free in motels/hotels; maybe pick one up next time you hit the Motel 6 if you're Bibleless now.

 

[lantern2814]

Me sexualizing kids to spite you? My, my, don't we have an ego. I have news for you. In a bit I'm going home and I'll forget all about the anonymous bigot I've talked to. If you're lucky I might revisit the conversation. I might not. But of all the things life throws at me. Spiting you ranks very low.

As for exposing my kids to porn. My kid is 12. She knows what sex is without me exposing her to anything. She lives in the real world. That book is about real life and real issues.

But since she also knows that I'm honest with her when she asks me questions I have hope she'll come to me when the time does come and I'll give advice without condemnation. Maybe if she ends up being gay, I'll point her to that book, so she knows she doesn't have to feel ashamed.

The point is this. You can stick your head in the sand as deep as you want. You can try to raise your kid(s) to feel ashamed about sex and embarrassed by gayness.

You don't have the right to push that on me or my kid.

No asshole. YOU do not have ANY right to expose MY kid or anybody’s kid to this sick disgusting shit.

 

[MinTrut]

No asshole. YOU do not have ANY right to expose MY kid or anybody’s kid to this sick disgusting shit.

I think the Bible is fine for 12+s - do you disagree?

 

[Mac-7]

I got my first Bible many years ago.

Maybe you should read yours if you have one?

They're free in motels/hotels; maybe pick one up next time you hit the Motel 6 if you're Bibleless now.

Based on what you post I dont think you have a Bible

 

[hadit]

You REALLY need to read the Bible and then get back to us.

Already addressed in numerous other threads here, including threads you participated in.

The Bible's fine for 12+s however, though adult supervision would ideally attend, as it's a very disturbing book.

Nope, you never posted anything from the Bible like that.

 

[Curried Goats]

Nope, you never posted anything from the Bible like that.

Lot offers up his daughters to be gang raped.