Setup Is Complete, Ukraine Comes Into Full View, Indictments Coming

[eagle1462010]

The Establishment.............aka Deep State will not allow big dogs to get taken down.

Peons will go down and nothing more.......

The MAD principle applies..............the Establishment has dirt on each other.......and it's Mutually Assured Destruction to take any down.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

2. Trump is using "Executive Privilege" to deny Executive Branch employees from testifying in Schiff's witch hunt. That is totally legal.

Didn’t say it was illegal. You said there is no case. If that is true all the rats in the TrumpO nest should be encouraged to speak in the House instead of waiting for a trial in the Senate.

They can’t talk because they would have to lie.
There is a case for impeachment and you can’t make a case that there isn’t..

 

[edward37]

The Establishment.............aka Deep State will not allow big dogs to get taken down.

Peons will go down and nothing more.......

The MAD principle applies..............the Establishment has dirt on each other.......and it's Mutually Assured Destruction to take any down.

Will Trump let peons like Perry Guliani Nunes Pompeo to go down?

 

[iceberg]

If Trump is impeached the senate "trial" will be interesting. The House managers have no case for impeachment, so Trump is safe until 2025, but the democrats are in a lot of legal jeopardy. Imagine the following Trump defense witness list: Schiff, Hunter Biden, Ciaramella, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Rosenstein, the Ohrs, and the rest of the deep state coup plotters. If Barr, Huber, Durham and Horowitz start coming thru with indictments how will that look proving the democrat conspiracy against Trump? Trump wins in a landslide in 2020, he replaces RBG, and the courts are safe for a generation or two. Thanks democrats, impeach away.

KYZR you might has well be speaking and writing in Russian You certainly are speaking their language Shame is Americans kissing Russian ass ,those who want to bring America down

you keep blaming shit on russia but mueller didn't find anything after 2+ years of looking. dude all you are is a useful idiot shouting out past due date buzz words cause you are simply not smart enough to update them.

kinda sad.

Mueller found all right. Barr ,trumps lawyer made the info look like nothing and you're not smart enough to see what trump and his cohorts did in regard to Russia Fools like most republicans are ,still believe it was Ukraine not Russia involved in our election in 2016 ,and now trying to throw bidens into their pot of misdirection ,Trump is a crook who will do anything say anything to protect himself

God damn Eddie just stop. stop this one sided jihad against common sense. you go look for words to use to justify your emotional state and you just look like a bitter no life fucked up fool.

Sure it's one sided Trump has made it so Made it so for anyone with just an iota of common sense can see he's an unfit human being much less a president with the power he yields Sure dems have faults But those trump and the lying republican scum have ,pales in the differences

YOU MAKE IT THAT WAY.

or are you a puppet w Trump pulling your strings?

 

[Grumblenuts]

“Our nation is being torn apart. Truth is questioned. Our highly professional and expert career foreign service is being undermined,” Hill said. “President Putin and the Russian security services operate like a super-PAC. They deploy millions of dollars to weaponize our own political opposition research and false narratives.

Read that again.

"our own political opposition research and false narratives."

She's admitting there that a basic function of our "foreign service" is to fuck with "our own" and other's elections. To do "opposition research." To spread "false narratives" of "our own" creation. That's "intelligence" work. Ask Snowden.

"I would ask that you please not promote politically driven falsehoods that so clearly advance Russian interests."

Again, never mind our own "politically driven falsehoods." Nor that they've always made Russia's and all other's look like child's play. Smart professional. Wilfully self-deceived at best nonetheless. Trump is definitely an absolute disaster, but he's not always wrong. Russiagate remains complete bullshit. This is akin to Goliath crying foul at David's use of a slingshot.

 

[kyzr]

2. Trump is using "Executive Privilege" to deny Executive Branch employees from testifying in Schiff's witch hunt. That is totally legal.

Didn’t say it was illegal. You said there is no case. If that is true all the rats in the TrumpO nest should be encouraged to speak in the House instead of waiting for a trial in the Senate.

They can’t talk because they would have to lie.
There is a case for impeachment and you can’t make a case that there isn’t..

The democrats can impeach Trump for anything that they want. That is perfectly "legal".
My "case" is that impeachment will fail and the GOP will win a victory because the democrats don't have a compelling case for impeachment AND REMOVAL.

The "articles" that the democrats will write are not "high crimes and misdemeanors" as required by the Constitution. Congressman Hurd nailed it when he said that “An impeachable offense should be compelling, overwhelmingly clear, and unambiguous. And it’s not something to be rushed or taken lightly,” Hurd said. “I have not heard evidence proving the president committed bribery or extortion.”
Will Hurd Picks a Side

No matter how many more witnesses you call, they can't testify that a "high crime" was committed, period.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

kyzr, post: 23542229,

My "case" is that impeachment will fail and the GOP will win a victory because the democrats don't have a compelling case for impeachment AND REMOVAL.

Your case is moronic because the entire universe knows that the impeachment process will fail in the Republican controlled Senate. That is because those right wing Senators will not examine the facts of the case. They will not vote to remove TrumpO from office unless they feel threatened by the likes of you.

And the junk life collective, also known as Trump’s base, are making arguments such as your “there is no case for impeachment’ which creates the symbiotic relationship between GOP Senators and the likes of American voters like you.

Your case is nothing more than a convenient conscience cleansing ritual that keeps you in line and lock step with the taudry phony anti-reality corrupt political apparatus that TrumpO leads.

You will make the case that impeachment will fail no matter what the case for it turned out to be.

Face that and perhaps reality and decency will find a place in your being.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

2. Trump is using "Executive Privilege" to deny Executive Branch employees from testifying in Schiff's witch hunt. That is totally legal.

Didn’t say it was illegal. You said there is no case. If that is true all the rats in the TrumpO nest should be encouraged to speak in the House instead of waiting for a trial in the Senate.

They can’t talk because they would have to lie.
There is a case for impeachment and you can’t make a case that there isn’t..

The democrats can impeach Trump for anything that they want. That is perfectly "legal".
My "case" is that impeachment will fail and the GOP will win a victory because the democrats don't have a compelling case for impeachment AND REMOVAL.

The "articles" that the democrats will write are not "high crimes and misdemeanors" as required by the Constitution. Congressman Hurd nailed it when he said that “An impeachable offense should be compelling, overwhelmingly clear, and unambiguous. And it’s not something to be rushed or taken lightly,” Hurd said. “I have not heard evidence proving the president committed bribery or extortion.”
Will Hurd Picks a Side

No matter how many more witnesses you call, they can't testify that a "high crime" was committed, period.

You hang your hat on a Republican who claims to have not heard evidence of bribery or extortion.

He may have heard evidence of the “attempted” bribery and extortion by TrumpO that we all have heard, but considers the fact that TrumpO got caught and his bribery attempt failed makes the act unimpeachable.

Who knows what a Republican thinks anymore? Perhaps he was not paying attention since he like so many other Republicans of late will not seek another term.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Patriots are in control. Latest analysis of Deep State on the verge of demolition...A long video but very informative!

I'm still skeptical. Hillary and Comey should already be serving multiple life sentences for treason and sedition, yet the IG report came back agreeing with the Stalinist democrats that, "a little Fascism never hurt anyone"

 

[The Purge]

Purge glad you think I'm funny I don't think you are You're a traitor a trump republican ,but I repeat myself

And you are a Russian Assey! Comrade!

 

[Lesh]

WHat's coming into full view...is the DEPTH of this scheme. It now looks like Dirty Devon Nunes is involved.

He met with the disgraced Ukraine prosecutor Shokin in Vienna in 2018 tp push this bogus narrative.

Why Vienna you might ask?

Because that is where Dimitri Firtash is marooned under House Arrest. Firtash is the Oligarch funding and pushing all of this from the Russian side

Dmytro Firtash - Wikipedia

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Purge glad you think I'm funny I don't think you are You're a traitor a trump republican ,but I repeat myself

Straight from ChiCom central!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Ok, so the video agrees that the democrats have a very weak case for impeachment. They may impeach him anyway. But then again they may not, because if they do then the Senate trial is by senate rules, and the witnesses called may be very explosive. Imagine if the GOP senators got the following folks on the stand under oath: Ciaramella (WB), Schiff, Hunter Biden, Comey, McCabe, the Ohrs, Strzok, Page, and the rest of the deep state coup conspirators trying to remove Trump.

With the testifying today of Hill and Holmes trump is buried How many of you idiots believe as your scum in the senate are saying, that Ukraine responsible for screwing with our 2016 elections ,,not Russia? You're all dupes

WASHINGTON — A former top national security adviser to President Trump told Republicans in the House impeachment inquiry Thursday morning to stop advancing a “fictional narrative” that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 U.S. elections rather than Russia.

“Based on questions and statements I have heard, some of you on this committee appear to believe that Russia and its security services did not conduct a campaign against our country — and that perhaps, somehow, for some reason, Ukraine did. This is a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves,” said Fiona Hill, who until July was the deputy assistant to the president and senior director for Europe and Russia on the National Security Council.

“The unfortunate truth is that Russia was the foreign power that systematically attacked our democratic institutions in 2016. This is the public conclusion of our intelligence agencies, confirmed in bipartisan congressional reports. It is beyond dispute, even if some of the underlying details must remain classified,” Hill continued.

this is all fine and dandy but it's still irrelevant SHRUGS

 

[bigrebnc1775]

kyzr, post: 23527256

The House managers have no case for impeachment,

If that could possibly be true, the White House would certainly cease its refusal to allow the first hand witnesses and those most partisan in favor of the President to attend the hearings and swear under oath to the House Democrats and the public that there is no case for impeachment.

There is a solid case being considered for several counts that must be considered as a high crime or misdemeanor.

One is quite clear and has been confessed by TrumpO when he released a summary of his phone call with the new President of The Ukraine.

He failed to uphold the Constitution and protect a US citizen by requesting that a foreign government accuse that American citizen of a crime, thus subjecting an American citizen to lose the protections he or she is supposed to have as a Citizen of the United States.

And TrumpO’s request to have an American citizen suffer the force and power of a supposedly corrupt foreign legal system because that US citizen (overtly named by TrumpO) is the son of TrumpO’s primary political foe, certainly rises to a high crime and misdemeanor and easily an abuse of power.

Then there’s the attempted bribery and extortion and quid pro quo and sleazy crap TrumpO had Rudy and those two criminally charged side kicks doing on foreign soil on top of the Constitutional duty to protect the rights of every US citizen no matter their relationship to a political foe.

We should not allow our president to even attempt to use a foreign government to investigate, indict and prosecute a US citizen In any case, but specifically when it’s to achieve a political favor or advantage on the domestic front.

When you commit crimes in other countries you are subject to their laws regardless of being an American citizen and that is a fact.

 

[Care4all]

Ok, so the video agrees that the democrats have a very weak case for impeachment. They may impeach him anyway. But then again they may not, because if they do then the Senate trial is by senate rules, and the witnesses called may be very explosive. Imagine if the GOP senators got the following folks on the stand under oath: Ciaramella (WB), Schiff, Hunter Biden, Comey, McCabe, the Ohrs, Strzok, Page, and the rest of the deep state coup conspirators trying to remove Trump.

With the testifying today of Hill and Holmes trump is buried How many of you idiots believe as your scum in the senate are saying, that Ukraine responsible for screwing with our 2016 elections ,,not Russia? You're all dupes

If Trump is impeached the senate "trial" will be interesting. The House managers have no case for impeachment, so Trump is safe until 2025, but the democrats are in a lot of legal jeopardy. Imagine the following Trump defense witness list: Schiff, Hunter Biden, Ciaramella, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Rosenstein, the Ohrs, and the rest of the deep state coup plotters. If Barr, Huber, Durham and Horowitz start coming thru with indictments how will that look proving the democrat conspiracy against Trump? Trump wins in a landslide in 2020, he replaces RBG, and the courts are safe for a generation or two. Thanks democrats, impeach away.

KYZR you might has well be speaking and writing in Russian You certainly are speaking their language Shame is Americans kissing Russian ass ,those who want to bring America down

you keep blaming shit on russia but mueller didn't find anything after 2+ years of looking. dude all you are is a useful idiot shouting out past due date buzz words cause you are simply not smart enough to update them.

kinda sad.

comrade comrade comrade!
Are you just bat shit crazy or the most dishonest person on earth?


Mueller did not find anything on Russia? How about 12 indictments against Russia's operatives?

YOU are a lying piece of steaming dung.

 

[berg80]

The Patriots are in control. Latest analysis of Deep State on the verge of demolition...A long video but very informative!

The patriots are the people who fulfilled their legal and moral obligation to testify against Trump and the members of his admin who were involved in the scheme to extort Ukraine. Bolton, Mulvaney, Pompeo, Giuliani, Perry, and Trump have been exposed for the self-serving traitors they are.

Already proved you commie scumbags have nothing but all of you repeating the same TALKING POINTS given out by the DNC this AM....funny how all the idiots think repeating lies will work....newestvpolls show the all important INDEPENDENTS going in Trumps.favor...You guys NEED BETTER TALKING POINTS!

Poll finds sharp swing in opposition to impeachment among independents | TheHill
2 days ago · A new national survey finds independent voters leading a ... the poll shows more independents now oppose impeachment ... Since October, Emerson has found Trump's job approval

I'm sorry you find it necessary to accuse those of us who are familiar with the irrefutable facts of being "commie scumbags." It does nothing to advance your case. Neither does a poll. The facts are not in dispute. Trump extorted Ukraine for personal political gain. Full stop. Whether he is convicted for it is another matter entirely.

Of course they are in dispute and calling the left commie scumbags has truth behind it

Democrats Allow Communists to Infiltrate Their Party Across the Nation - AMAC - The ...
Jun 12, 2019 · The CPUSA supports China, Cuba, Venezuela, and the Russian Communist Party—all enemies of the United States. The CPUSA still...

And it was Biden who ExXTORTED UKRAINE FOE PERSONAL GAIN...again proven by Hunter getting over $3 million for a NO SHOW JOB, and the ability to let Corrupt Burisma use his name to pull favors from the Obomanation regime...even DOCUMENTS SHOW IT...
Firm Hired by Ukraine's Burisma Tried to Use Hunter Biden as Leverage, Documents Show
View attachment 291268
Nov 5, 2019 · Hunter Biden served on Burisma's board when his father, then the vice president, was overseeing U.S. efforts to get Ukraine to .

YOU of course are entitled to believe your lies. I only show FACTS that back mine up...you, like the supposed witnesses who demonstrated that Trump hurt their feeling and ASSUMEF wrongly whatever they assumed have demonstrated to this countries INDEPENDENT VOTERS, what liars DEMONRATS are and just how deeply the corruption of American government under these communist/demonRATS has become. ..Now please continue as I will continue to show facts about how you commies lie by continually repeating the same shit...You pieces of shit aren't to proud to follow in the NAZI way, as well

When I encounter someone like yourself, steeped in the crazed, unsubstantiated lunacy of the right wing fever swamp, I am often conflicted. Should I take the time to methodically dismantle the garbage you spew, or leave you to wallow in it? I ask myself, what's the point of engaging with someone so clearly impervious to accepting actual facts? For example, I'm sure you are aware there is no credible evidence Old Joe was doing anything for personal gain with respect to his efforts to have Shokin removed. It's not a coincidence that right wing media (and Don) has chosen to accuse Biden of exactly what Trump did. The Liar-in-Chief's strategy has always been to distract attention away from his own behavior by attacking others.
So......perhaps I should give you the opportunity to humiliate yourself rather than doing it to you. State your best case that Biden's actions were done for personal gain. But before doing so, I need to know something. Because we have to agree on what the facts are. Do you accept the premise that Biden was acting on behalf of the US government, and in agreement with the international community, in seeking Shokin's removal for Shokin's refusal to pursue investigations against corrupt members of the Ukrainian government? Cuz if we can't agree on that as a starting point there is no point in proceeding.

 

[Lesh]

Straight from ChiCom central!

Purge?

I wouldn't be surprised

 

[kyzr]

2. Trump is using "Executive Privilege" to deny Executive Branch employees from testifying in Schiff's witch hunt. That is totally legal.

Didn’t say it was illegal. You said there is no case. If that is true all the rats in the TrumpO nest should be encouraged to speak in the House instead of waiting for a trial in the Senate.

They can’t talk because they would have to lie.
There is a case for impeachment and you can’t make a case that there isn’t..

The democrats can impeach Trump for anything that they want. That is perfectly "legal".
My "case" is that impeachment will fail and the GOP will win a victory because the democrats don't have a compelling case for impeachment AND REMOVAL.

The "articles" that the democrats will write are not "high crimes and misdemeanors" as required by the Constitution. Congressman Hurd nailed it when he said that “An impeachable offense should be compelling, overwhelmingly clear, and unambiguous. And it’s not something to be rushed or taken lightly,” Hurd said. “I have not heard evidence proving the president committed bribery or extortion.”
Will Hurd Picks a Side

No matter how many more witnesses you call, they can't testify that a "high crime" was committed, period.

You hang your hat on a Republican who claims to have not heard evidence of bribery or extortion.

He may have heard evidence of the “attempted” bribery and extortion by TrumpO that we all have heard, but considers the fact that TrumpO got caught and his bribery attempt failed makes the act unimpeachable.

Who knows what a Republican thinks anymore? Perhaps he was not paying attention since he like so many other Republicans of late will not seek another term.

Responding to both posts #47 & 48
1. I showed you a retiring GOP congressman's (Hurd) logic that the democrat's case for impeachment is not adequate. Hurd was a CIA analyst, and was never a Trump supporter. He was always a Trump critic. So if the democrats can't get Hurd to support impeachment, its dead.

2. You keep trying to criticize Trump supporters for opposing impeachment, like its a slam-dunk case. It is NOT. There is a better case for censure. We're not saying that Trump is totally innocent, just that there is no "crime", let alone a "high crime". The democrats overreached and pushed a bad case. Here are two law professors who can explain to you that impeachment is not warranted:
Jonathan Turley: Trump's Ukraine transcript: Unwise words but no proof of a crime
Alan Dershowitz: Alan Dershowitz: It’s “unconstitutional” to impeach Trump

3. If the democrats actually impeach Trump and the Senate holds a trial, the witness list could sink any chances the democrats have in 2020.
Imagine the following witness list: Schiff, Ciaramella, Chalupa, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Comey, Komrads Brennan and Clapper, Strzok, Page, the Ohrs, and any other deep state conspirators that could prove the coup attempts and the "insurance policy" against Trump

 

[berg80]

Russiagate remains complete bullshit.

Not really. Thanks to an obstruction of Mueller's investigation by Stone, Manafort, and Trump we may never know the truth about the extent of the conspiracy to disseminate dirt on Hillary the Russians gave to Wikileaks.
House investigating whether Trump lied to Robert Mueller - CNNPolitics

Even so, there is ample evidence Trump committed an impeachable offense when he obstructed Mueller's investigation.

 

[The Purge]

The Patriots are in control. Latest analysis of Deep State on the verge of demolition...A long video but very informative!

The patriots are the people who fulfilled their legal and moral obligation to testify against Trump and the members of his admin who were involved in the scheme to extort Ukraine. Bolton, Mulvaney, Pompeo, Giuliani, Perry, and Trump have been exposed for the self-serving traitors they are.

Already proved you commie scumbags have nothing but all of you repeating the same TALKING POINTS given out by the DNC this AM....funny how all the idiots think repeating lies will work....newestvpolls show the all important INDEPENDENTS going in Trumps.favor...You guys NEED BETTER TALKING POINTS!

Poll finds sharp swing in opposition to impeachment among independents | TheHill
2 days ago · A new national survey finds independent voters leading a ... the poll shows more independents now oppose impeachment ... Since October, Emerson has found Trump's job approval

I'm sorry you find it necessary to accuse those of us who are familiar with the irrefutable facts of being "commie scumbags." It does nothing to advance your case. Neither does a poll. The facts are not in dispute. Trump extorted Ukraine for personal political gain. Full stop. Whether he is convicted for it is another matter entirely.

Of course they are in dispute and calling the left commie scumbags has truth behind it

Democrats Allow Communists to Infiltrate Their Party Across the Nation - AMAC - The ...
Jun 12, 2019 · The CPUSA supports China, Cuba, Venezuela, and the Russian Communist Party—all enemies of the United States. The CPUSA still...

And it was Biden who ExXTORTED UKRAINE FOE PERSONAL GAIN...again proven by Hunter getting over $3 million for a NO SHOW JOB, and the ability to let Corrupt Burisma use his name to pull favors from the Obomanation regime...even DOCUMENTS SHOW IT...
Firm Hired by Ukraine's Burisma Tried to Use Hunter Biden as Leverage, Documents Show
View attachment 291268
Nov 5, 2019 · Hunter Biden served on Burisma's board when his father, then the vice president, was overseeing U.S. efforts to get Ukraine to .

YOU of course are entitled to believe your lies. I only show FACTS that back mine up...you, like the supposed witnesses who demonstrated that Trump hurt their feeling and ASSUMEF wrongly whatever they assumed have demonstrated to this countries INDEPENDENT VOTERS, what liars DEMONRATS are and just how deeply the corruption of American government under these communist/demonRATS has become. ..Now please continue as I will continue to show facts about how you commies lie by continually repeating the same shit...You pieces of shit aren't to proud to follow in the NAZI way, as well

When I encounter someone like yourself, steeped in the crazed, unsubstantiated lunacy of the right wing fever swamp, I am often conflicted. Should I take the time to methodically dismantle the garbage you spew, or leave you to wallow in it? I ask myself, what's the point of engaging with someone so clearly impervious to accepting actual facts? For example, I'm sure you are aware there is no credible evidence Old Joe was doing anything for personal gain with respect to his efforts to have Shokin removed. It's not a coincidence that right wing media (and Don) has chosen to accuse Biden of exactly what Trump did. The Liar-in-Chief's strategy has always been to distract attention away from his own behavior by attacking others.
So......perhaps I should give you the opportunity to humiliate yourself rather than doing it to you. State your best case that Biden's actions were done for personal gain. But before doing so, I need to know something. Because we have to agree on what the facts are. Do you accept the premise that Biden was acting on behalf of the US government, and in agreement with the international community, in seeking Shokin's removal for Shokin's refusal to pursue investigations against corrupt members of the Ukrainian government? Cuz if we can't agree on that as a starting point there is no point in proceeding.

#1 Biden was acting on behalf of his son who collected over $3 million dollars for Burisma to be able to use his name and his fathers influence to help them when pushed came to shove with its corrupt ways...THAT is the FACT you refuse to understand and keeps staring you in the face.

#2 after reading how lovely and how you so magnificently you put the above. I see that you are either a PAID member of the DNC propaganda machine OR you are EXACTLY what Goebels said....your mind is manipulated so much from your indoctrination of the lefts lies that you believe whatever they state and can't possibly think rationally....please keep posting so I and others can decide which scenario best fits you or perhaps both!

You do know Joe and his son have a history of corrupt practices when Jojo was a Senator, don't you?

Twitter

Oh. I didn't mention Hunters connection, through his father to be on the board of Amtrack. But we can aldongo into that if you care. Lay out FACTS and let the readers here decide how his RIDING AN AMTRACK TRAI . was his qualification to be put on the board...that could also be interesting as few here probably even heard of that excursion into corruption!