Seriously, What Should A Citizen Do In This Situation?

[Disir]

What a bunch of bullshit. Does he live in a state that he has to legally identify himself? That's it.

Taking a bunch of videos and blowing them out of proportion. Is that really what you want?

So having a gun pointed at you is ok? and one should just shrug it off?

You should try it sometime ,it gives you a real tingle up your leg!!

I have had one, thanks for asking.

And did you deserve it ? if not than its still ok?

Try again.

 

[chikenwing]

That's what I am talking about. Even so, had the guy been cooperative in the beginning and not been an asshole then I might say...........yep, you were jacked. Instead, he launched into a diatribe that demonstrates his intention to provoke a situation.

He claims she had a gun on him. That sounds to me like it was already a situation.

He had every opportunity to defuse the situation and chose not to. Instead he chose to escalate the situation to prove.........what?

His rights???!!! bowing down to authority without question is a very bad thing.

Again. Does California have a law on the books about proving his identity?

Good chance no or they ,the cops would have been all over that

 

[TheOldSchool]

Again. Does California have a law on the books about proving his identity?

It does not.

 

[g5000]

Again. Does California have a law on the books about proving his identity?

Papers! Papers, please!

 

[g5000]

I think every American should film every encounter they have with police.

 

[chikenwing]

What a bunch of bullshit. Does he live in a state that he has to legally identify himself? That's it.

Taking a bunch of videos and blowing them out of proportion. Is that really what you want?

So having a gun pointed at you is ok? and one should just shrug it off?

You should try it sometime ,it gives you a real tingle up your leg!!

I have had one, thanks for asking.

And did you deserve it ? if not than its still ok?

Try again.

At what convincing you that pointing guns at people needlessly or violation of one rights is just not ok.
Or are we just talking about another authoritarian,that ignores constitutional rights?

 

[chikenwing]

I can't see the video but am going to assume based on who posted it that he's being arrested/harassed and he's black?

Wonder if the tc would have come to my defense on the two occasions I was wrongfully arrested? Doubtful, I'm the wrong color. No Jesse Jacksons or Al Sharptons. Just a jail cell overnight & a release without being charged with a crime.

Once for being in a bar while I was on an out of state school contract. After work of course. The bar was raided for drugs and despite being from out of town & proving it I was arrested anyways.

Once for refusing to tell a cop MY NAME while I was on my own property.

Apparently being white is a crime right?

White guy not black,you can see a brief glimpse at one point in vid.

 

[Disir]

Again. Does California have a law on the books about proving his identity?

It does not.

Ok, does it move into obstruction of justice? Check this out:
http://le.alcoda.org/publications/point_of_view/files/Hiibel.pdf

 

[Disir]

What a bunch of bullshit. Does he live in a state that he has to legally identify himself? That's it.

Taking a bunch of videos and blowing them out of proportion. Is that really what you want?

So having a gun pointed at you is ok? and one should just shrug it off?

You should try it sometime ,it gives you a real tingle up your leg!!

I have had one, thanks for asking.

And did you deserve it ? if not than its still ok?

Try again.

At what convincing you that pointing guns at people needlessly or violation of one rights is just not ok.
Or are we just talking about another authoritarian,that ignores constitutional rights?

Try again.

 

[chikenwing]

Again. Does California have a law on the books about proving his identity?

It does not.

Ok, does it move into obstruction of justice? Check this out:
http://le.alcoda.org/publications/point_of_view/files/Hiibel.pdf

LOL

 

[TheOldSchool]

Ok, does it move into obstruction of justice? Check this out:
http://le.alcoda.org/publications/point_of_view/files/Hiibel.pdf

Walking down the street to get coffee is not probable cause.

Probable cause would be the ONLY reason he could be legally detained in that situation.

 

[chikenwing]

So having a gun pointed at you is ok? and one should just shrug it off?

You should try it sometime ,it gives you a real tingle up your leg!!

I have had one, thanks for asking.

And did you deserve it ? if not than its still ok?

Try again.

At what convincing you that pointing guns at people needlessly or violation of one rights is just not ok.
Or are we just talking about another authoritarian,that ignores constitutional rights?

Try again.

No need to its plain,your just another authoritarian being what they are.

 

[Disir]

That's what I am talking about. Even so, had the guy been cooperative in the beginning and not been an asshole then I might say...........yep, you were jacked. Instead, he launched into a diatribe that demonstrates his intention to provoke a situation.

He claims she had a gun on him. That sounds to me like it was already a situation.

He had every opportunity to defuse the situation and chose not to. Instead he chose to escalate the situation to prove.........what?

His rights???!!! bowing down to authority without question is a very bad thing.

Again. Does California have a law on the books about proving his identity?

Good chance no or they ,the cops would have been all over that

I think that it is dependent on the interpretation. Like in Nevada as was mentioned. The law is that you only have to give your name. There is a difference between a situation where rights are being violated and generating faux rage over what amounts to opportunistic faux rage.

 

[Disir]

Ok, does it move into obstruction of justice? Check this out:
http://le.alcoda.org/publications/point_of_view/files/Hiibel.pdf

Walking down the street to get coffee is not probable cause.

Probable cause would be the ONLY reason he could be legally detained in that situation.

He didn't ask. He launched into a diatribe.

 

[TheOldSchool]

I think that it is dependent on the interpretation. Like in Nevada as was mentioned. The law is that you only have to give your name. There is a difference between a situation where rights are being violated and generating faux rage over what amounts to opportunistic faux rage.

Nevada has a stop and identify law. California does not.

 

[TheOldSchool]

He didn't ask. He launched into a diatribe.

He didn't ask what?

 

[Disir]

I think that it is dependent on the interpretation. Like in Nevada as was mentioned. The law is that you only have to give your name. There is a difference between a situation where rights are being violated and generating faux rage over what amounts to opportunistic faux rage.

Nevada has a stop and identify law. California does not.

That's why I showed you that. It is being interpreted in certain areas of California as an obstruction of justice.

 

[TheOldSchool]

That's why I showed you that. It is being interpreted in certain areas of California as an obstruction of justice.

It can only be obstruction of justice if he was legally detained for probable cause. Which he was not.

 

[PredFan]

He should have told the cop he was an illegal alien . He would have been asked no further questions and allowed to go free.

 

[TheOldSchool]

He should have told the cop he was an illegal alien . He would have been asked no further questions and allowed to go free.

He should have put his hands up in the air. Then the officer could have shot him and republicans would give her hundreds of thousands of dollars on GoFundMe.