Zone1 Sedevacantist Catholics say Charlie Kirk was not a Christian

[forkintheroad7]

You will have to Search Sedevacantist but basically it means the most traditionally Catholic "branch" of the Catholic Church (although I myself do not at this time count the Vatican as being one branch)

So anyway, I went to a Sede Catholic site and there is a video there that is entitled

Charlie Kirk was not a Christian

So start throwing your rhetorical stones at me... and/or them. But they made an excellent case for him not being one.. objectively speaking.

Subjectively speaking... well, God knew that Kirk was seeking for the true faith, so who knows how He dealt with his soul... but Kirk may not have been making much progress in finding it because at some age or another, he said that he doesn't agree w/ everything the [true Church] teaches. It's sad most people do not know where the True Church is.

 

[bdavidc]

Charlie Kirk was not a Christian

So start throwing your rhetorical stones at me... and/or them. But they made an excellent case for him not being one.. objectively speaking.

Sedevacantists can say Charlie Kirk “is not a Christian” all they want, but let’s be real, their definition of a Christian isn’t biblical. Salvation is not through Rome or its “true church,” it is through Christ alone. “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5).

If someone believes in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of their sins, and confesses Him as Lord, they are a Christian by God’s definition, not man’s. “If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved” (Romans 10:9).

If Charlie Kirk put his faith in Christ and not a system of religion, then biblically he was saved. The Sedevacantist position is in addition to the gospel, and that makes it “another gospel” (Galatians 1:8–9). That’s not me saying it, that’s the Word of God.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Sedevacantists can say Charlie Kirk “is not a Christian” all they want, but let’s be real, their definition of a Christian isn’t biblical. Salvation is not through Rome or its “true church,” it is through Christ alone.

Just going on this commentary alone (above) for now:

Why do you ASS-U-ME

that Christ's Church could never be Catholic?

You have been lied to by the dirtbag down below.

Christ founded a Church and the CC is the only one that can be traced back to Christ and the 12.

The Father of Protestantism Luther came along (rebelled) in the 16th century.

Explain that. Did Christ's Church cease to exist as soon as He began to form it after His Ascension

Then for 1500 years it was GONE, vanished into thin air, according to protesters.. until the mortal sinner/apostate/heretic Luther (formally excommunicated) came along?

No Protestant here has ever commented on this history... Gee, I wonder why?

 

[Cellblock2429]

You will have to Search Sedevacantist but basically it means the most traditionally Catholic "branch" of the Catholic Church (although I myself do not at this time count the Vatican as being one branch)

So anyway, I went to a Sede Catholic site and there is a video there that is entitled

Charlie Kirk was not a Christian

So start throwing your rhetorical stones at me... and/or them. But they made an excellent case for him not being one.. objectively speaking.

Subjectively speaking... well, God knew that Kirk was seeking for the true faith, so who knows how He dealt with his soul... but Kirk may not have been making much progress in finding it because at some age or another, he said that he doesn't agree w/ everything the [true Church] teaches. It's sad most people do not know where the True Church is.

/----/ Kirk was more Christian than the hundreds of Bible thumpers I dealt with during my life.

 

[forkintheroad7]

/----/ Kirk was more Christian than the hundreds of Bible thumpers I dealt with during my life.

He appeared to me to be that also, but I am not God... All we have to go on is the Church Christ founded. If we go on anything else, it is just human beings being human

and we do not benefit from THAT

 

[pknopp]

sadly many sects of this or that believe they are only the true way.

I feel pretty secure in my position that in the end God isn't about to ask me my position on someone else.

 

[MisterBeale]

Charlie Kirk: Was He A Real Christian?​

Sep 26, 2025

Interesting.


I really don't believe that the Vatican in Rome would agree with this type of analysis.

Are Only Catholics Saved?

This affirmation [no salvation outside the Catholic Church] is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those w...

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[bdavidc]

Why do you ASS-U-ME

that Christ's Church could never be Catholic?

You’re defining Christ’s Church by a denomination or institution, but the Bible defines the true Church by faith in Christ alone, not by adherence to a building or creed.

Jesus said, “You must be born again” (John 3:3). Paul wrote, “By grace you have been saved through faith… not of works” (Ephesians 2:8–9). The Church is the body of Christ—all who are truly born again (1 Corinthians 12:27). It’s not a denomination, a building, or a genealogy, it’s a people who are indwelt by the Spirit of God (1 Corinthians 3:16; 1 Peter 2:5).

Yes, Christ founded His Church, but it was not a Roman hierarchy, it was a spiritual body built on Christ Himself, not on Peter. Jesus said, “On this rock I will build My church” (Matthew 16:18). He was not referring to Peter as a pope, but to Peter’s confession that Jesus is the Christ (Matthew 16:16). Scripture nowhere gives support to the papal succession, Rome’s claim to authority, or that apostolic succession flows through the papacy.

Your “if we can trace it back to Christ” argument ignores the fact that truth is not proved by how old or continuous it is, but by whether it is faithful to Scripture. Israel had a temple lineage going back thousands of years, but Jesus still said the scribes and chief priests “made the word of God of none effect by tradition” (Mark 7:13). Mary as the second Eve, purgatory, indulgences, and papal infallibility are not taught in Scripture. That alone disqualifies the Catholic Church from being “the Church Christ founded,” because the Church is built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus as the cornerstone (Ephesians 2: 20), and the apostles only taught what Christ commanded.

The true Church never ceased to exist. God always preserved a remnant that held to His Word, just as Elijah thought he was the only one left, but God told Elijah, “I have reserved seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal” (1 Kings 19:18). Likewise, even through centuries of darkness, the gospel was not lost, it was just covered up by tradition until God raised up voices to call people back to Scripture.

So no, Christ’s Church never stopped existing, it just was never exclusive to Rome. The Church is not wherever men wear robes and claim apostolic succession, but wherever there are believers who hold to the faith once delivered unto the saints (Jude 1:3).

The truth be told there is no salvation through Rome or any denomination, only through Christ alone. “There is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5). Anything that is added to that is not the gospel, it’s apostasy.

 

[toobfreak]

I went to a Sede Catholic site and there is a video there that is entitled Charlie Kirk was not a Christian

Sounds like something a Catholic might say: Kirk does not fit the mold of their particular sedevacantist sub-sect, so, Charlie isn't a Christian period!

Forgive me, but wasn't Kirk a Baptist or Evangelist or something and not a Catholic?

Last I checked, they are all Christians.

 

[bdavidc]

He appeared to me to be that also, but I am not God... All we have to go on is the Church Christ founded. If we go on anything else, it is just human beings being human

and we do not benefit from THAT

The Church God established is not an organization, it’s the body of Christ.

Rome crucified Jesus, but it was the Pharisees, the religious leaders, who demanded it. They claimed to be God’s people but rejected His Son. Jesus declared, “This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me” (Matthew 15:8). The same spirit still walks among any system that elevates tradition above truth.

The true Church is not Rome, a denomination, or a building. It’s all who are born again by faith in Christ and indwelt by His Spirit (John 3:3; Ephesians 2:20). “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me” (John 10:27).

 

[forkintheroad7]

sadly many sects of this or that believe they are only the true way.

I feel pretty secure in my position that in the end God isn't about to ask me my position on someone else.

I guess you don't believe that Jesus established a Church?

Yet He mentioned doing so in Mt 16:18

 

[forkintheroad7]

The Church God established is not an organization, it’s the body of Christ.

couldn't possibly be both...

yeh, that's some logic you have there...

 

[forkintheroad7]

Rome crucified Jesus,

WRONG

The Jews crucified Him... his own people.. Figures (if you ask me)

"Your enemies will be those of your own household" Jesus said. He would know...

 

[pknopp]

I guess you don't believe that Jesus established a Church?

Yet He mentioned doing so in Mt 16:18

No clue how that addresses my point.

 

[forkintheroad7]

No clue how that addresses my point.

You are saying there is no True Church when you say that everyone's religion is of equal value.. or that all religions are true.

That is absolutely absurd and abysmally illogical.

If Belief A opposes Belief B in its entirety and only one of them is true

You can't say that B is also A

 

[Hafar1014]

You will have to Search Sedevacantist but basically it means the most traditionally Catholic "branch" of the Catholic Church (although I myself do not at this time count the Vatican as being one branch)

So anyway, I went to a Sede Catholic site and there is a video there that is entitled

Charlie Kirk was not a Christian

So start throwing your rhetorical stones at me... and/or them. But they made an excellent case for him not being one.. objectively speaking.

Subjectively speaking... well, God knew that Kirk was seeking for the true faith, so who knows how He dealt with his soul... but Kirk may not have been making much progress in finding it because at some age or another, he said that he doesn't agree w/ everything the [true Church] teaches. It's sad most people do not know where the True Church is.

Catholics think they are the only Christians as priest molest boys and knock up nuns.

 

[hadit]

I guess you don't believe that Jesus established a Church?

Yet He mentioned doing so in Mt 16:18

He established it and preserved it through the reformers when it became so corrupt as to be unrecognizable as His.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Catholics think they are the only Christians as priest molest boys and knock up nuns.

Catholics are not doing that.. Infiltrators into the Vatican are the perps.

But you wouldn't know anything about that because you do not do research on the topics you speak on.

You don't have to research anything because you apparently were born knowing everything...



Well, if you don't know more the next time you answer one of my posts

meaning: more on What Really Happened to the Catholic Church After Vatican II (the title of a book you may want to check out)

I'm done with you. I'm tired of ignorant people... so ignorant they don't even know they are ignorant.

 

[pknopp]

You are saying there is no True Church when you say that everyone's religion is of equal value.. or that all religions are true.

I didn't say that. I said God isn't going to ask me my opinion.

God: Well, pknopp, what do you think?

Not going to happen.

 

[Zebra]

Charlie Kirk: Was He A Real Christian?​

Sep 26, 2025

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Interesting.


I really don't believe that the Vatican in Rome would agree with this type of analysis.
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Are Only Catholics Saved?

This affirmation [no salvation outside the Catholic Church] is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those w...

www.catholic.com

Sounds like something a Catholic might say: Kirk does not fit the mold of their particular sedevacantist sub-sect, so, Charlie isn't a Christian period!

Forgive me, but wasn't Kirk a Baptist or Evangelist or something and not a Catholic?

Last I checked, they are all Christians.